Why does Kerry and the democrats constantly bring up the draft as an issue?

Why does Kerry and the democrats constantly bring up the draft as an issue, the democratic party is now so desperate it is trying to scare young folks like you and me. I think this is so ridicullous, it is nonsense, i saw on live television, one of the democratcs saying they voted for a bill to bring back draft, but a different version, that it is still your choice they don't force you to join millitary. Regardless, there should be no draft period, and the president said there will be none as long as he's the president, you guys should really take note of this patern by Kerry and his party. This is very disturbing, then he goes around the country blaming the president for job losses, i don't know if he was on pluto when we were brutally attacked by savages on 9/11. I was there on that day when the twin towers were destroyed by thes subhuman beasts, you had to have been there to feel the anger like i did, seeing it on television isn't enough. The fact is folks, or economy was crippled big time 9 million jobs lossed that very day, and the president took action against these savages and that's why i will stand behind him nomatter what diversion the Kerry people put out there because they're so desperate, maybe they can fool other americans, but i am different, and i beleive all americans stand behind president Bush.

Um...I think this might get closed for political gumf. We've learned by now that politics NEVER work well on KMC...

It's no dumber then Cheney saying that a vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists, and that if Kerry wins there will be another terrorist attack.

Scare tactics. And if Kerry loses the election he is a Big Time Loser. Come on! losing to an idiot? His reputation will be stained.

As if it isn't already to alot of people.

FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go GEORGIE BOY!

And why do people feel the need to open millions of the same threads and in them talk about exactly the same thing - over and over again?

especially since the last president to institute a draft was a democrat!

This is a general discussion area, and generally speaking, the Democrats bring up the draft to get the 18 to 24 year old voters to move their chad pokers towards Kerry instead of Bush. I mean its the truth. Those are the people effected by the draft.

Politics is stressfull for everyone because "people don't always agree" -- Padme

"Well, then they should be made to agree" -- Anakin (The politics of the world require unrelenting patience and tolerance.) Uh HEM...so tolerate moderators or there is a problem with the world.

Maybe because Kerry was drafted and experiences the horrors of war himself?

I don't think Kerry saying Bush will reinstate the draft is entirely ridiculous. Obviously Bush isn't going to do it NOW, because if he did, he would lose the election for sure. But I won't be at all surprised if he gets reelected and does it then. "the president said there will be none as long as he's the president." Oh yeah, we should definitely believe him about this, since he's been so brutally honest about everything else his administration has done, and even MORE so in the last election. 🙄

What did Bush do during the last draft? Oh, he hide in the National Guard and stayed in the US. What did Cheney do? Oh ya, he was deferred 3 times because his rich father didn't want him to go.

I bet Old Georgie Boy is glad he's not young and in the National Guard now. His butt would be in Iraq. With other people that should be protecting our country at home and not fighting a war across seas. Oh wait, silly me, Bush is the one who sent them over there. Without him there would be no Iraq war...

Seems to me that Bush cares more about being re-elected then he cares about the young men and women dying in Iraq. Would he install a draft? Who knows for sure. Probably not now but I bet he was considering it until he heard what a backlash there would be. If God forbid he is elected I can't wait to see what little secrets he has in store for us. A no Country left behind bill? You don't like us we'll take you over... 🙂

kingcoot, glad to see you're bringing politics to where it belongs...

anyway, the draft is a very real possability.

we simply do not have the manpower for this task, dispite what bush says. he has already pulled troops out of unstable areas where our presence is needed and stuck them in iraq. the 'back door draft' is keeping our men there with no hope of going home in sight. they are the best soldiers in the world imho, but they are still only human.

we need more troops, it HAS to happen or we can just sweep iraq under the rug and wait for the next 9-11, except this time it will be a group of pissed off iraqis. so, where are these troops going to come from?

unless the u.s. can rally REAL support, no other nations
will join the cause and iraq will end up as another afganistan,
a tremendous power vaccume waiting for some fanatic freak to
show them the way to 'salvation'.

bush could easily solve this by swallowing his pride and taking a dent in his big fat ego, and go before the u.n. and ask for help, not browbeat them like he has in the past. however, i can see clearly that bush is not capable of humbling himself, as he is not even willing to acknowledge that we have a shortage of troops and resources. he has 20/20 blindsight.

look, i know kerry is full of hot air, as is ALL politicians. thats what our political system provides us. only those upper class silver-spooners with money and power have a chance of even making the ballot...garbage in...garbage out. its easy to point out flaws since bush has been in the white house calling the shots and kerry hasnt. it puts kerry at an advantage in that he has more ammo.

but imho, bush has f***ed up royally in every sense. from the moment he took office his head was not in the game. i refuse to BLAME bush for 9-11, i blame terrorists. however, there will always be the haunting possability that we may have been prepared if he and that assclown rice had read the damn report on osama bin laden.

bush is a functionless leader, and i have yet to see any solid accomlishments. everything he pats himself on the back for is not of his doing, or is bloated with dillusional optimism. example: 1.6 million dead-end minimum wage retail jobs is NOT the product of a rising economy...sorry.

im not voting kerry because i think he is going to fix the world. i just want leader who will at LEAST pay attention in more than hindsight after the shit hits the fan. is kerry the man? i dont know...but i do know that bush isn't...so i take a leap of faith.

I also want ya'll to remember that there is very hard evidence John Kerry voted against all the major weapons systems that we are using in the war right now, if he had his way, our troops would be in big trouble. Just my view, i respect everyone here, and i respect your views, i do want to leave you with this however, who ever you vote for, think before you vote.

Yes, but you also need to remember that there is very hard evidence that Bush is the one who sent our troops to war. (actually, I'd be interested to hear your source for this "very hard evidence"--not that I don't believe you, I do, but keep in mind that not everything on Fox News is true. If that's where you got it 😛)

Kerry isn't perfect, but then, no politician is. Sure, Kerry's ****ed up a couple times, but Bush has ****ed up a lot more than I think Kerry would...

if i thought hard enough...i would just stay home on election day as would many others...and democracy would crumble even more.

btw, i saw bill oreilly on john stewarts show, and he actually kinda opened up as to his opinion on the candidates, and he doesnt seem to particularly like either...it may even be argued that he's undecided...weird huh?

just goes to show you how much faith people actually have in politicians, regardless of how politically motivated or biased they are.

For the last twenty years my friends, he has the most liberal record in the senate, i wish he could talk about that instead of blaming Bushes for year record. Also why is John Kerry bringing up his past record, knowing it will be used as bait. One thing that's fact is that we didn't start this war, the terrorist did, they damaged our economy, and because we're now at war with them, remember war is expensive. So when Kerry blames Bush for all our problems, it's just not right, and if iraq was a diversion, why is Abu Mussaab Al Sarquawi there fighting sooo hard. Seems to me they are protecting something. Hope i spelled the name correctly.

Originally posted by Heatsandfire23
I also want ya'll to remember that there is very hard evidence John Kerry voted against all the major weapons systems that we are using in the war right now, if he had his way, our troops would be in big trouble. Just my view, i respect everyone here, and i respect your views, i do want to leave you with this however, who ever you vote for, think before you vote.

You could use Kerry's voting record to show this slant. Yes. But that is only part of the picture. Do you honestly think the a bill before the Senate is just about 1 weapon system? Then he voted against it? No, there was also funding for a bridge in someone's district and money to fund a park in another district. This is what we lovingly call pork. To push things threw or to derail bills representatives will add things to a bill. Causing someone to vote for or against it.

Besides Cheney, as Secretary of Defense, cut most of the weapon systems that he is blaming Kerry for voting against. Hypocrisy!

Like others have said the reason our troops are in trouble is because Bush put them in harms way. Bush says he'll take responsibility for his actions if/when historians find fault? I find fault right now and want to hold him responsible on election day. Sadly that won't bring back the 1,100+ soldiers who have died or the countless more Iraqis that have lost their lives dew to this man's vendetta. For shame Mr. President! For shame!

wherever there is a war in the middle east, there will be fanatics seeking to gain power. Abu Mussaab Al Sarquawi is an opportunist terrorist, nothing more. kill him, and some other wacko will take his place.

i want to see bin laden hang from a noose for what he's done, and bush has not given me that pleasure.

Originally posted by Heatsandfire23
...One thing that's fact is that we didn't start this war, the terrorist did, they damaged our economy, and because we're now at war with them, remember war is expensive.

Was that an Iraqi Scud missile that took out the trade towers? Nope. A terrorist group did this and they were being hunted in Afghanistan. Bush has said he would hold other countries accountable if they aided terrorist. I am sure that Iraq did that. So do many, many others. I would be curious as to why he choose Iraq. I think it is because he thought he could get away with it. That people wouldn't hold him accountable. What about all these other countries that help terrorists? Are we going to take them all out?

Is the world a better place with out Hussein in power? YES! Did Bush do the right thing to get him out of power? NO! The ends do not justify the means. When the dust settles and history write this sad chapter what do you think it will say about Bush? I guess time will tell.

I'll raise my voice and vote for someone that will lead our country and not lie to us about why we are going to war. That someone is not Bush!