First off Kingcoot, I would like to thank you for the support and backing me up. I guess it has become popular on the threads to slam me, seeing as though it is only about 3% pro Bush supporters on here...And seeing as though people are getting mad for my numerous threads, I will post all of what I have to say in one...even though I am responding to a million people at once...but I guess that really seems to bother you guys...But no surprise, most Republicans to my knowledge keep to themselves and aren't so loud mouthed and obnoxious...When I say this, I refer to the younger liberals out there...I know this will be very unpopular to say so...but its true...I just had to come on here and TRY to equal things out a bit...but it will never be totally so. As for Tex's comments, it seems as though you don't except my opinion and are telling me basically that I am wrong...I never said I totally believed ties with Saddam and 9/11. I simply said that new information had been revealed about it. But it IS funny however, that Bush said in the 2nd debate..."THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A DRAFT" if he is President. How much clearer can you get...Even if you believe Bush lies about things, if he says something he does it...I'm sure you can't disagree with that. As far as an unbaised newsource...I found Drudgereport to be pretty equal...it has things on Bush and Kerry...Fox News is definately Conservative...and CNN is definately liberal.
As much as I'm all for any bashing of Bush, it is EXTREMELY unlikely that there will be any sort of draft any time soon. I'm sure he and his advisors realize what a huge mistake that would be, his aproval ratings would drop down the shitter in about 10 seconds after aproving a draft. People simply won't stand for it.
I think it's simple scare tactics coming from Kerry and company. Much like the scare tactics of Bush and company saying "A vote for Kerry is a vote for terror." They're both full of shit on both of these issues.
Well, I'm glad you agree Backfire...It is a scare tactic...and while Bush's comment may be...it's a little different and here's why: Bush said there would be no draft if he is President...that is a statement of something he said he would not do in his next Presidency...Bush is saying that Kerry is just simply too weak to defend America from a terrorist attack...so basically he's saying he's too weak to defend America, don't choose Kerry...Choose me, because I will defend America...Bush is doing what any President, or person for President says against their opponent...that they are weak...Kerry however, turned what Bush said around and said there will be a draft even though he said there wouldn't. I see a difference and I wouldn't compare the two.
im sorry hunchy, but you make no sense at all.
i find it impossible to debate you since you spew out one ridiculous comment after another.
"Kerry's comments simply aren't true, while Bush's is an opinion. That's the difference."
WTF????????
blanket statement after blanket statement. do you think about those words before you type them?
Dude, when I said Kerry's statements weren't true I was referring to him saying that if you vote for Bush there WILL be a draft...I wasn't saying Kerry's comments in general aren't true...don't try to make it sound like I'm saying something else...and stop coming on these forums and talking to me and saying that there's no point debating me, if there's no point debating me...then don't debate me. And of course no one's voting for Kerry because they want terror to happen. People who are voting for him like him...It was not the best thing to say, but I think Bush is implying that there will be another attack attempt and that Kerry is not the man to handle it, and that he is too weak and that Bush could handle it...that's strictly political.
you bring forth crap evidence, you give us some article from a tabloid site not worthy of considering itself among the ranks of the enquirer, you present some stupid painting of saddam and the wtc and say its PROOF of an iraq al queda connection. you are dumbing down this debate, like you did the last one.
and you rest your case on the idea that bush is more "man" than kerry?
thats political? wtf?
Tell me how the drudgereport is not fair and it tells lies like the Enquirer...I did NOT say the painting was a connection. In fact yesterday I said it wasn't and that I had just found it and had to do with the subject we were talking about. I don't think it's amy evidence against Saddam having weapons at all. I did not say Bush was more man than Kerry. Your missing what I have to say. I said that BUSH himself thinks he could deal with an attack and that Kerry couldn't. Stop trying to put words in my mouth and say things I DID NOT SAY.
"Dude, its a painting that shows Saddam smiling at the attacks of 9/11. I doubt someone would take the time to fake a painting to make it look like Saddam was laughing at the attacks...its obvious that he had it drawn of him...like so many other paintings he had done."
so then what the hell was your reason in posting it?
Originally posted by hunchy
Dude, when I said Kerry's statements weren't true I was referring to him saying that if you vote for Bush there WILL be a draft...I wasn't saying Kerry's comments in general aren't true...don't try to make it sound like I'm saying something else...and stop coming on these forums and talking to me and saying that there's no point debating me, if there's no point debating me...then don't debate me.
Eminem has another philosophy that he speaks to Fred Durst of Limp Biskit about how to communicate and act. Goes something like this:
From Eminem P***y Girls "I got some s**t on my mu**** f*****g chest I need to get off, cause, if I dont', I'm gunna f****g explode, or something".................."Thats all you gotta do dog. Don't say you're down with the f****g song and then back out at the last minute, and then go on mu**** ****ing mTV talking about Everlast. If you are just scared of Whitey Ford dog, just say you're scared of Whitey Ford. That's all you had to ****in say. I wouldn't of said s**t."
So PVS,
Simplified, it means talk straight with people. Also, if there is no point in debating, there is no point in debating. Even Eminem would back out now if there was no point in debating. If you aren't down with what we are saying, then back out, and don't revisit. Otherwise it will seem pointless to you.
It wasn't about eminem... it was about how he communicates. Read it, see the symbolism in what is happening here, and figure it out.
Besides.. it isn't directed at you at all, so just ignore it. That is all it says. Ignore it if you aren't happy with it. That is the message of Eminem's quote, along with entertainment of swearing which is a way of venting anger.
PVS, I told you the reason for posting that picture yesterday:
"In fact yesterday I said it wasn't and that I had just found it and had to do with the subject we were talking about."
We were talking about the possible connection, that I myself don't even know if I believe, and I found the picture and simply posted it. But you had to put words in my mouth and say that that was my reason for supporting that there was a connection. That would be the stupidest thing to do. I think you misinterrupt what I am saying constantly. And it seems your the only one...but of course you believe anything you watch in a movie...mainly including Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bowling for Columbine-whom even people who hate Bush know are full of shit. I also do not like Eminem, but I think kingcoot was using him as an example of what he was trying to say...It had nothing to do with who Eminem is...he was referring to the way PVS acts towards me. Again, its nice to have a little support.