I agree with you HeatsandFire. If Bush is President there is going to be NO draft...stop these conspiracy theories. And as for Backfire's comments...I think your taking Bush/Cheney's comments out of context...they said that they think there will be terrorist attack attempts during the next 4 years, and that they don't think that Kerry would be able to handle them...this is strictly political...Kerry and Bush constantly say that eachother won't be able to stop the terrorist attacks and that either or is better. Thing is, out of all the terrorist attacks we've had in the U.S...I'm thinking of '93 and '01...World Trade Center...how do you know we haven't stopped other attacks from happening?
"It's no dumber then Cheney saying that a vote for Kerry is a vote for terrorists, and that if Kerry wins there will be another terrorist attack."
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Tex, I've respected you since we first met. This is one reason why. CheersExcept for this: "Terrorism didn't exist in Iraq until Bush invaded."
you KNOW there were terrorists there. Just not the ones we were looking for at the time.
Sure there were terrorists there, but no attacks of terrorism.
Big difference.
Saddam ran an extremely tight shift in Iraq.
There were no road side bombs killing police officers and be-headings of foreigners.
Do you know what Saddam would've done if someone had kidnapped an American and beheaded them in Iraq? *shivers*
Saddam did what Bush could not, he kept Iraq safe and orderly.
He also kept the lights on and the plumbing running.
Which is more than I can say about Bush.
Bush's poorly planned and unwarranted invasion has created a breeding ground for terrorists acts. Making Iraq a much more dangerous and unstable place.
You make me sick...Your for an evil dictator and against Bush...who, has yes made mistakes...(I have yet to see a modern President that hasn't), some that you think are major...some that I disagree with...You make it sound like Saddam ran a well-maintained little Iraq that was peaceful. I think your full of shit. Read this:
Life Under
Saddam Hussein
A Brutal Regime
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For over 20 years, the greatest threat to Iraqis has been Saddam Hussein's regime -- he has killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and his neighbors for over two decades.
When Iraq is free, past crimes against humanity and war crimes committed against Iraqis, will be accounted for, in a post-conflict Iraqi-led process. The United States, members of the coalition and international community will work with the Iraqi people to build a strong and credible judicial process to address these abuses.
Under Saddam's regime many hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of his actions - the vast majority of them Muslims.
According to a 2001 Amnesty International report, "victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."
Saddam has had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.
Allegations of prostitution used to intimidate opponents of the regime, have been used by the regime to justify the barbaric beheading of women.
Documented chemical attacks by the regime, from 1983 to 1988, resulted in some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.
Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds. o The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988. The largest was the attack on Halabja which resulted in approximately 5,000 deaths. o 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.
Iraq's 13 million Shi'a Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, face severe restrictions on their religious practice, including a ban on communal Friday prayer, and restriction on funeral processions.
According to Human Rights Watch, "senior Arab diplomats told the London-based Arabic daily newspaper al-Hayat in October [1991] that Iraqi leaders were privately acknowledging that 250,000 people were killed during the uprisings, with most of the casualties in the south." Refugees International reports that the "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis, primarily Kurds who have fled to the north to escape Saddam Hussein's Arabization campaigns (which involve forcing Kurds to renounce their Kurdish identity or lose their property) and Marsh Arabs, who fled the government's campaign to dry up the southern marshes for agricultural use. More than 200,000 Iraqis continue to live as refugees in Iran."
The U.S. Committee for Refugees, in 2002, estimated that nearly 100,000 Kurds, Assyrians and Turkomans had previously been expelled, by the regime, from the "central-government-controlled Kirkuk and surrounding districts in the oil-rich region bordering the Kurdish controlled north."
"Over the past five years, 400,000 Iraqi children under the age of five died of malnutrition and disease, preventively, but died because of the nature of the regime under which they are living." (Prime Minister Tony Blair, March 27, 2003) o Under the oil-for-food program, the international community sought to make available to the Iraqi people adequate supplies of food and medicine, but the regime blocked sufficient access for international workers to ensure proper distribution of these supplies. o Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, coalition forces have discovered military warehouses filled with food supplies meant for the Iraqi people that had been diverted by Iraqi military forces.
The Iraqi regime has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors. From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the UN Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.
The UN Special Rapporteur's September 2001, report criticized the regime for "the sheer number of executions," the number of "extrajudicial executions on political grounds," and "the absence of a due process of the law."
Executions: Saddam Hussein's regime has carried out frequent summary executions, including: o 4,000 prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in 1984 o 3,000 prisoners at the Mahjar prison from 1993-1998 o 2,500 prisoners were executed between 1997-1999 in a "prison cleansing campaign" o 122 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/March 2000 o 23 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in October 2001 o At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001
Who's side are you on?
To all you saying there's terrorists everywhere...of course there are...but there are more that dangerous...so we should just let all the terrorists go free...what the hell do you guys stand for? When we have major terrorist threats we must take them down...the FBI/CIA can deal with the American terrorists who are not near a crisis as some like the Al Quaeda (However spelled). Read this article:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39061
or:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040620-050700-2315r
We're finding more and more evidence connecting Saddam to Al-Quaeda and 9/11 all the time...
"Cuz he's protecting us from terrorists!"
Bull!
The war in Iraq is not a war on terror.
We were not attacked by Iraq!
Saddam was not a imminent threat to the security of America.
Iraq had no connection to 9/11 or Al Qaeda.
There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Terrorism didn't exist in Iraq until Bush invaded.
The region is more vulnerable and chaotic. Terrorists are crossing the border into Iraq everyday.
Bush has taken the resources necessary to fight the real war on terror and diverted them and all of his attention into Iraq.
"Who cares, Saddam was a bad man, the world is better off without him!" Well I guess its time to invade Iran and N. Korea.
Bush needs foot soldiers, might as well initiate a draft.
I am 100% confident that John Kerry would NOT initiate the draft.
I cant say the same about Dubya.