Originally posted by capt it up
capt jump on a back of a rocet he did not run the speed of a rocket.
Did you even look at the scan? Cap didn't jump on the back of a rocket, he threw his shield so hard it was able to surpas a rocket in flight and cut threw it
Originally posted by capt it up
the truck ones not impressive due to the fact it his shield. if he throuigh a normal shield that be impressive but his shield and the way ti desighned even hawk eye easiliy could of down it.
There is nothing about the design of his shield that would justify cutting through an engine block exept it being thrown with a massive amount of force. It take more than an object being sharp to cut through something. Try taking a knife and thrusting it complelety into a tree. Unless you are incrediabily strong you can't do it, despite the sharpness of the knife.
Also Cap has thrown his shield hard enough to deflect Thor's hammer
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers170180an.jpg
Not to mention that Cap works out with 1100lb wieghts while talking....
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg
And isn't even tired.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd057ko.jpg
Originally posted by capt it up
also like I stated earlier the pic of capt ripping off the back of a trackter is not even capt thats US. Agent there a big diffrence.
No, that's Steve Rogers. He wore that black costume long before John Walker ever did.
Originally posted by capt it up
the blocking feat was good but the feats I mention of dodging beams of light and lazer make capts look like nuthing.
also the strength feats I mention and showed picture of each of them are far over the feats u posted.
You want lasers?
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123516rougher4bc.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123518rougher4et.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1251020pl.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1014144dd.jpg
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Originally posted by TheKahn
eerDid you even look at the scan? Cap didn't jump on the back of a rocket, he threw his shield so hard it was able to surpas a rocket in flight and [b]cut threw it
There is nothing about the design of his shield that would justify cutting through an engine block exept it being thrown with a massive amount of force. It take more than an object being sharp to cut through something. Try taking a knife and thrusting it complelety into a tree. Unless you are incrediabily strong you can't do it, despite the sharpness of the knife.
Also Cap has thrown his shield hard enough to deflect Thor's hammer
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers170180an.jpgNot to mention that Cap works out with 1100lb wieghts while talking....
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg
And isn't even tired.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd057ko.jpgNo, that's Steve Rogers. He wore that black costume long before John Walker ever did.
You want lasers?
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123516rougher4bc.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123518rougher4et.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1251020pl.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1014144dd.jpg
http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers004061fw.jpg [/B]
K soundss good
Reason why I think wolverine should win almost every time verse captain America.
Captains Americas stats
Strength 3
Intel. 2(some times 3 depending on hand book)
Agility 3
Reflex 3
Durability 3(stated as such but can be debatable)
Stamina 3(stated as such but can be debatable)
Fighting skill 7
Healing factor is twice that of a normal human
Wolverine
Strength 4
Agility 4
Intel 2(3 depending on hand book)
Reflex 4
Stamina 5
Durability 4(or 5 depends on the stat book)
Fighting skill 7
Healing factor 7(one of the strongest in marvel)
Stat wise wolverine is the better.
Wolverine is not a peak human he is a step above that. Captain is only that of a peak human he can never reach up to wolverine’s level of agility, strength, and reflex.
HERE WERE I GOT SOME OF MY INFO
Marvel hand book 2002-2003 master edition
Marvel knights encyclopedia 2003
Official Wolverine hand book of the marvel universe
Marvel comics presents Wolverine volume 2
Hulk ultimate guide also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
(THE SHOW DOWN OF THE CENTURY DC VERSUS MARVEL COMICS) also states wolverine with superhuman strength.
“The Marvel Universe Master Edition Issue 4 clearly states that Wolverine's strength is enhanced human.” Quote from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wolverine_(comics)/Archive_2
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=46c6f3d71tg.jpg
Wolverines old stats.
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinesoldstats0xj.jpg
Wolverine throwing a 1,600 pound full trash container with one arm. (Yes look it up ur self’s at full they are 1,600 pounds)
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anothergoodoldstrengthfeat5sc.jpg
This pic speaks for it self.
http://img93.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolvstrength9ea.jpg
Lifting a shark that weights between 1000 to 1200 pounds and throwing it in a boat from the water. (Look it up your self if u don’t believe how much a shark that size would way)
http://img53.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthfeatskarkstyle9jl.jpg
Wolverine punching a guy who says he his brother in water so hard he slams into the wall and his head goes through it.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strength21yp.jpg
Wolverine beats rough-house with his fists. (Rough-house is stated by (marvels wolverine official hand book 2004) to be strength class of a 6 which is the same strength class colossus is in. he is also stated (wolverine # 123) to be just under hulks level of strength.
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsroughhouse6bd.jpg
wolverine lifting blob and slamming blobs head into the wall.
http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=strengthandspeedfeat9oj.jpg
wolverine pick up a huge tree looking thing like a base ball bat and hitting a creature of pure energy.
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherstrengthfeat7pr.jpg
Death wolverine smashing through a solid door of titanium that’s also being held back by x-man.
http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=anotherwolverinestrengthfeat9n.gif
since my printer is broken I can only get scan already on my computer so here are comic issue numbers of a few more feats of strength.
In (New X-men 115) Cassandra Nova has wolverine Cyclopes and pig faced guy chained up and wolverine easily breaks his chains using just strength and hits Cassandra nova.
In ( wolverine 28 agent of shield part 3) wolverine allows him self to be captured. Wolverine arms leg and neck are locked in this metal devices to hold wolverine but as soon as the sentinel attacks wolverine easily breaks it using pure strength.
In (Black Panther #9) a huge dragon mutant creature is flying holding black panther and wolverine stabs the creature in the tail and then swings the creature the opposite way while the creature is hold black panther.
In ( Wolverine #44) wolverine runs through a wall of rocks and boulders like it nothing.
In ( x-men # 7) wolverine who is haft dead and drugged breaks out of metal holding designed to hold him, using nothing but pure strength.
In ( x-men # 98) which is the 6th issue of x-men that wolverine was ever in. wolverine breaks holding of what were said to be unbreakable using just his strength because some guy this jean.
I have more strength feats proving he is above captain America by a good amount but here are some of them.
Trash dumpster sight
http://www.fac.unc.edu/OWRRGuidelines/?Topic=Vehicle
Here a list of a few of wolverines feats.
AGILITY and REFLEX FEATS not all but some
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) Has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl , dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lazers.
(x-men #103) wolverine show some his agility well getting out of a trap rogue get him in.
(Wolverine #134) wolverine defeats a good amount of heros.
(Daredevil man with out fear! Vs Wolverine #249) wolverine dodges bush wacker machine gun firer well running at him.
Wolverine Vs Tiger Shark. He fought and took hits from tiger shark and kept coming. There first fight was in the water and the second which this pic is from is were wolverine beats tiger shark who is class 100.
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinen20p132qn.jpg
Wolverine vs Grey hulk in hulk 340. wolverine takes quite a few this from hulk and keeps coming.
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here another fight wolverine had with a class 100 and came out on top. Wolverine takes in this fight with ba’al quite a good amount of hits and keeps coming.
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wolverine vs wendigo who is a class 100 and is taking hit quite fine.
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w27dd.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w36yd.jpg
death wolverine vs. hulk and as u can see hulk hitting him aint stopping him.
http://img427.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smash2vn.jpg
wolverine vs namor
http://img46.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvswolv40oq7fl.gif
wolverine has a fist fight with calabain.
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverineownsh8qz.jpg
wolverine getting hit by a dude who most likely over a 100 feet tall. Wolverine not only fine, he even making a joke about it an attacking right away.
http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ireallylikebeer1ak.jpg
Originally posted by TheKahn
eerDid you even look at the scan? Cap didn't jump on the back of a rocket, he threw his shield so hard it was able to surpas a rocket in flight and [b]cut threw it
😆
They may have showed him doing that, but I sorry thats just ridiculous.
Originally posted by TheKahn Not to mention that Cap works out with 1100lb wieghts while talking....
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg
So is this.
I can understand 800, but not 1100.🤪
Originally posted by Murda Mase
😆They may have showed him doing that, but I sorry thats just ridiculous.
So is this.
I can understand 800, but not 1100.🤪
We're talking about a man with a metal skeleton fighting a man who throws a shield, and the weight seems unbelieveable with PROOF?
Can you prove OTHERWISE? Like Cap liftng 800lbs going "WOW THIS SURE IS MY LIMIT"?
Originally posted by batdude123
Well, you're going by stats as well. If you looked at one cap it up's scans, then you would've seen Wolverine hanging from a wire cable with one arm and the other OUTSTRETCHED arm is hanging on to a cable car full of people. You actually think that a person who can barely lift 900lbs. to 2 tons could do that? Get real.
Yes because his body repairing itself while he strains to hold something that probably weighs a ton or so really means that he's weak.
I love how when people use facts AGAINST Wolverine, it's stupid biased fake dodgy info, etc.
But FOR him? THIS is why I'm so against Wolverine winning. Give him an inch and the fanboys will want a mile.
Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
Yes because his body repairing itself while he strains to hold something that probably weighs a ton or so really means that he's weak.I love how when people use facts AGAINST Wolverine, it's stupid biased fake dodgy info, etc.
But FOR him? THIS is why I'm so against Wolverine winning. Give him an inch and the fanboys will want a mile.
Are you serious, or are you kidding? A cable car with a sh*t load of people in it ways MORE than 1 ton. Plus he was holding on to it with an OUTSTRETCHED arm which makes it like 10X more impressive. Things are a lot harder to lift when your arm is completely straight and out versus curled and in. Not to mention that he was hanging on to it WHILE hanging from a wire with his other arm. WEAK 🤨, I seriously doubt it.
Originally posted by batdude123That is simply a show of adamantium, and his mutant powers working for him, cap can lift well over 2tons now, and is outclassing wolverine in h2h, and cap has shown on numerous occasions that he can ko wolverine with the shield.
Are you serious, or are you kidding? A cable car with a sh*t load of people in it ways MORE than 1 ton. Plus he was holding on to it with an OUTSTRETCHED arm which makes it like 10X more impressive. Things are a lot harder to lift when your arm is completely straight and out versus curled and in. Not to mention that he was hanging on to it WHILE hanging from a wire with his other arm. WEAK 🤨, I seriously doubt it.
Originally posted by TheKahndude that wasnt 1100 pounds he was benching it was 2200, if you know anything about weights, than that number was simply for the one side, the other side weighed equally as much, makings its a comibined 2200 pounds
eerDid you even look at the scan? Cap didn't jump on the back of a rocket, he threw his shield so hard it was able to surpas a rocket in flight and [b]cut threw it
There is nothing about the design of his shield that would justify cutting through an engine block exept it being thrown with a massive amount of force. It take more than an object being sharp to cut through something. Try taking a knife and thrusting it complelety into a tree. Unless you are incrediabily strong you can't do it, despite the sharpness of the knife.
Also Cap has thrown his shield hard enough to deflect Thor's hammer
http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers170180an.jpgNot to mention that Cap works out with 1100lb wieghts while talking....
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd045do.jpg
And isn't even tired.
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainamericav1402ocd057ko.jpgNo, that's Steve Rogers. He wore that black costume long before John Walker ever did.
You want lasers?
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123516rougher4bc.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv123518rougher4et.jpg
http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1251020pl.jpg
http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengersv1014144dd.jpg
http://img308.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers004061fw.jpg [/B]
Wolverine and Cap both easily have supper human strength and while I think Cap is the stronger of the two it's only a slight difference. Any strength edge that Cap may have hardly makes a difference when you consider that with his adamatium bones Wolverine's punches are going to be hitting Cap a hell of a lot harder then the ones he receives.
Physically Cap and Wolverine are almost identical and edge either of them has is slight at best. If Wolverine healing factor was turned off and he was fighting with out his adamatium skeleton I could see the fighting being a clean split but with his healing factor Wolverine wins 10/10.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wolverine and Cap both easily have supper human strength and while I think Cap is the stronger of the two it's only a slight difference. Any strength edge that Cap may have hardly makes a difference when you consider that with his adamatium bones Wolverine's punches are going to be hitting Cap a hell of a lot harder then the ones he receives.Physically Cap and Wolverine are almost identical and edge either of them has is slight at best. If Wolverine healing factor was turned off and he was fighting with out his adamatium skeleton I could see the fighting being a clean split but with his healing factor Wolverine wins 10/10.
nope, wolvies healing factor wont help him in a fight, he doesnt heal instantly like the hulk or deadpool, his healing factor kicks in after a fight, when hes wounded. he can probally heal form a paper cut or if he scraped his knee instantly, but not from serious injury. captan america wins
