Captain America vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I dunno if we can really say that Wolverine has more experience. I know that Wolverine is approximately 120 years old, BUT he has NOT been fighting/training all of his life

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I know that he hasn't, because I have read a lot about Wolverine's past before the adamantium claws were merged to his bones.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
So really, in essence, Captain America has been fighting basically his whole life, possibly even longer than Wolverine. Just a thought.

actauly captt did not even get the serum till he was in his 20's so if u some how believe that to be his whole life when capts barly 40 if that then you are quite wrong. how does a guy who been fighitng since he was 20 some thing and is now maby 40 have more experience then a guy who has been fighting since he was 17 and is now well over 100?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
by the way, Cap has better reflexes, speed, better agility, and probably just as strong.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Advantage: Me.

in your dreams

Speed: Even
Strength: Probably Wolverine
Agility: Even
Intelligence: Captain
Reflexes: Wolverine
Fighting Ability: Even

Originally posted by capt it up
actaully he been fighting sicne he was 17. as a cage fighter in orign.

You clearly havent. if u believe wolverine has not been fighting most of his life.

actauly captt did not even get the serum till he was in his 20's so if u some how believe that to be his whole life when capts barly 40 if that then you are quite wrong. how does a guy who been fighitng since he was 20 some thing and is now maby 40 have more experience then a guy who has been fighting since he was 17 and is now well over 100?

Prove this since marvel clearly does not agree with u.

in your dreams

Yea, I know that Cap got the serum in his 20s. But ever since then, he'd been fighting basically his whole life. And for an excessive number of years, too. Longer than 20 years, too.

Again, I know that Wolverine is older and has been fighting a long time as well. Unless I've read something different, it seemed like it took Logan a long time to really get into the fighting that he does now. I do recall him living in the wild for a number of years as well, not fight-training at all while doing this.

And actually, Marvel agrees with me. That is, if you have read any Captain America or the Avengers and seen Cap's abilities in action. If you gave Wolverine Cap's shield, he would NEVER be able to perform the same blocking feats that Cap has done. And you know it to be true. I don't think anyone here will disagree with me when I say that either.

Naw, Wolvie wins in the experience department 😄 he was handing people their asses before the turn of the century. Wereas Cap was just a nobody before the serum 😄.

Wolvie had 100+ years (or around 70 if your picky) of fighting and hunting experience.
Cap has had say 40 years of experience? and lots of his time was spent bobbing around in the sea.

and ill disagree, given the time and training with the shield Wolverine could be just as deadly...as anyone could. It would be the same if you gave steve claws, hed have to get used to them

Originally posted by batdude123
Speed: Even
Strength: Probably Wolverine
Agility: Even
Intelligence: Captain
Reflexes: Wolverine
Fighting Ability: Even

Speed:cap(wolverine dont run 60mph, nor does he dodge as many bullets)
Strength😛robably cap(cap has feets of him breaking through steel benching over2200 pounds easily, and pressing 700pound people easily)
Agility: easily cap(cap is superhumanly agile and has proven to be able to keep up with beast in agility)
Intelligence:Cap
Reflexes: Cap(if wolverines reflexes were so good, he wouldnt get shot all the time)
Fighting ability:Cap(in their fight cap made wolverine look like a Noob)

Originally posted by King KAM
see....thats where yo0ure wrong...you dont even read cap.

Speed:cap(wolverine dont run 60mph, nor does he dodge as many bullets)
Strength😛robably cap(cap has feets of him breaking through steel benching over2200 pounds easily, and pressing 700pound people easily)
Agility: easily cap(cap is superhumanly agile and has proven to be able to keep up with beast in agility)
Intelligence:Cap
Reflexes: Cap(if wolverines reflexes were so good, he wouldnt get shot all the time)
Fighting ability:Cap(in their fight cap made wolverine look like a Noob)

Wow, I don't read cap?????? 🙄 Well you obviously don't read Wolverine. 😉

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea, I know that Cap got the serum in his 20s. But ever since then, he'd been fighting basically his whole life. And for an excessive number of years, too. Longer than 20 years, too.

Again, I know that Wolverine is older and has been fighting a long time as well. Unless I've read something different, it seemed like it took Logan a long time to really get into the fighting that he does now. I do recall him living in the wild for a number of years as well, not fight-training at all while doing this.

And actually, Marvel agrees with me. That is, if you have read any Captain America or the Avengers and seen Cap's abilities in action. If you gave Wolverine Cap's shield, he would NEVER be able to perform the same blocking feats that Cap has done. And you know it to be true. I don't think anyone here will disagree with me when I say that either.

Originally posted by batdude123
Wow, I don't read cap?????? 🙄 Well you obviously don't read Wolverine. 😉

now i posted logic for all of my reasons..and it was all true

Originally posted by King KAM
good point...and lets not forget wolverine fought in the cage fighting event....but that was just scrapping, and it was his first time at it.... that doesnt count as "experience" and after that night, he ran with wolves for "x" amount of years....and then nobody knows when he came back to humanity.

Dude, why don't you actually read some Wolverine? 😉

Originally posted by batdude123
Dude, why don't you actually read some Wolverine? 😉

Originally posted by Mr. Valentine
Naw, Wolvie wins in the experience department 😄 he was handing people their asses before the turn of the century. Wereas Cap was just a nobody before the serum 😄.

Wolvie had 100+ years (or around 70 if your picky) of fighting and hunting experience.
Cap has had say 40 years of experience? and lots of his time was spent bobbing around in the sea.

and ill disagree, given the time and training with the shield Wolverine could be just as deadly...as anyone could. It would be the same if you gave steve claws, hed have to get used to them

No no. You're giving Wolverine an unfair advantage if he gets to train and practice with it for an extended period of time. If his reflexes and strength are even with or above Cap's, he should be able to use the shield just as or even more efficiently than Cap can. Which, I believe Wolverine cannot do.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yea, I know that Cap got the serum in his 20s. But ever since then, he'd been fighting basically his whole life. And for an excessive number of years, too. Longer than 20 years, too.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Again, I know that Wolverine is older and has been fighting a long time as well. Unless I've read something different, it seemed like it took Logan a long time to really get into the fighting that he does now. I do recall him living in the wild for a number of years as well, not fight-training at all while doing this..

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And actually, Marvel agrees with me. That is, if you have read any Captain America or the Avengers and seen Cap's abilities in action. If you gave Wolverine Cap's shield, he would NEVER be able to perform the same blocking feats that Cap has done. And you know it to be true. I don't think anyone here will disagree with me when I say that either.

Originally posted by King KAM
actually i do read wolverine, every month..... and i read his other seires all the time...i used to be a wolverine fanboy....

now i posted logic for all of my reasons..and it was all true

Not really. Strength is basically a toss up, maybe Wolverine. Fighting experience definitely has to go to Wolverine. The reason Wolverine rarely dodges bullets is because he really doesn't have to. They barely do anything to him. Wolverine has dodged bullets at point blank so don't tell me he isn't agile or doesn't have good reflexes. He has better reflexes than Cap due to his enhanced senses. Fighting ability is even because I haven't really seen anything that Wolverine hasn't demonstrated before.

Originally posted by King KAM
good point...and lets not forget wolverine fought in the cage fighting event....but that was just scrapping, and it was his first time at it.... that doesnt count as "experience" and after that night, he ran with wolves for "x" amount of years....and then nobody knows when he came back to humanity.

Exactly!

...My God, Kam and I just agreed on something, haha. 😛

Originally posted by batdude123
Not really. Strength is basically a toss up, maybe Wolverine. Fighting experience definitely has to go to Wolverine. The reason Wolverine rarely dodges bullets is because he really doesn't have to. They barely do anything to him. Wolverine has dodged bullets at point blank so don't tell me he isn't agile or doesn't have good reflexes. He has better reflexes than Cap due to his enhanced senses. Fighting ability is even because I haven't really seen anything that Wolverine hasn't demonstrated before.

...The hell do enhanced senses have to do with superior agility? Cap has superior agility, but not better senses.

Originally posted by King KAM
see....thats where yo0ure wrong...you dont even read cap.

Speed:cap(wolverine dont run 60mph, nor does he dodge as many bullets)
Strength😛robably cap(cap has feets of him breaking through steel benching over2200 pounds easily, and pressing 700pound people easily)
Agility: easily cap(cap is superhumanly agile and has proven to be able to keep up with beast in agility)
Intelligence:Cap
Reflexes: Cap(if wolverines reflexes were so good, he wouldnt get shot all the time)
Fighting ability:Cap(in their fight cap made wolverine look like a Noob)

Originally posted by capt it up
I read capt and avenegrs and u clearly do not read wolverine comics.
actauly if wolverine spent as many eyars with a shield as capt he could easiliy do those feats. also if capt had wolverines claws he enevr be able to perform any of wolevrien feats.
also please prove capt more agile,better reflex,faster becuase marvel clearly does not agree with u.

Hey, quick question. What comics do you NOT read? I'm sure you'll exaggerate it anyway, but just thought I'd ask.

Wait, wait, wait. How come Wolverine can easily perform Cap's shield feats but Cap can't easily perform Wolverine's claw feats? Please explain that one.

Originally posted by capt it up
please prove this since I read ccapt comics and I highly doubt u are correct at all. sinc ehe spent years frozen.

actauly wolverine was in the woods for about 2 years. also that would just of helped him sharpen his sense. after he left the woods he went around the world training and then went to world war one, then trianed some more and went to wolrd war 2. he ahs many times the experience of capt.

I read capt and avenegrs and u clearly do not read wolverine comics.
actauly if wolverine spent as many eyars with a shield as capt he could easiliy do those feats. also if capt had wolverines claws he enevr be able to perform any of wolevrien feats.
also please prove capt more agile,better reflex,faster becuase marvel clearly does not agree with u.

Cap --> Skills, Fighting, Shield and Tactics.....

WHO DO YOU STAND WITH??

Originally posted by capt it up
please prove this since I read ccapt comics and I highly doubt u are correct at all. sinc ehe spent years frozen.

actauly wolverine was in the woods for about 2 years. also that would just of helped him sharpen his sense. after he left the woods he went around the world training and then went to world war one, then trianed some more and went to wolrd war 2. he ahs many times the experience of capt.

I read capt and avenegrs and u clearly do not read wolverine comics.
actauly if wolverine spent as many eyars with a shield as capt he could easiliy do those feats. also if capt had wolverines claws he enevr be able to perform any of wolevrien feats.
also please prove capt more agile,better reflex,faster becuase marvel clearly does not agree with u.

Capt doesnt have over 20years experience....but the time he does have is FULL of fighting cap fights and trains far more than wolverine now days....and everyday of his life since he has had the serum....

wolverine being in the woods did nothing but make him hear and smell better...like that actually matters here...we all know wolverine can outsmell cap....now as for the training and then going straight to WWI im not too sure about....but i do know that wolverine does have more "experience" but most of it is against nobodies, and in the streets....which wont help him here either.

marvel might not agree with cap being stronger faster and more agile, in the rankings...but i thought we were using actuall comic knowlege here...because if you want actual comic knowlege than i can tell you that....

more agile... cap consitantly uses his agility in fights to leap over opponents and make them look like fools, lady deathstrike a woman who gives wovlerine trouble was made a fool of by captain america.

better reflexes, cap constantly dodges bullets coming at him from all sides, not only does he get shot at more than wolverine, but he gets hit WAYYYYY less, cap has been shot under 50times....wolverine gets shot about 50times a day, if wolverine was had as good of reflexes and speed wouldnt he just be able to get out of the way??

and cap has been shown to run up to about 58mph for a little over 5 miles, wolverine and only been shown to do some quick dashes here and there....which cap has also shown he can do too...

and wolverine could never throw the shield like cap...it just aint happening...and as for what wolverine does with his claws...anyone could do that...throwing a boomerang and stabbin someone are on 2 different levels of difficulty

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hey, quick question. What comics do you NOT read? I'm sure you'll exaggerate it anyway, but just thought I'd ask.

Wait, wait, wait. How come Wolverine can easily perform Cap's shield feats but Cap can't easily perform Wolverine's claw feats? Please explain that one.

I read all x-men and aveneger titles. I read winter soldier,capt,all wolverine titles,and a few others