Originally posted by batdude123cap has more useful strength feats...and when has wolverine ever said that he didnt dodge the bullet because it doesnt hurt??? he doesnt dodge them because he cant get his big clunky ass out the way, or else he would dodge them, when he fought bucky that chick shot him with ease, in agent of shield he kept getting shot with by the shield agents....this proves that cap is more agile....no matter what you want to beleive, the speed goes to he who dodges the most objects...and that is cap. feats are feats. and for the h2h, cap made wolverine look like a noob in their fight.
Not really. Strength is basically a toss up, maybe Wolverine. Fighting experience definitely has to go to Wolverine. The reason Wolverine rarely dodges bullets is because he really doesn't have to. They barely do anything to him. Wolverine has dodged bullets at point blank so don't tell me he isn't agile or doesn't have good reflexes. He has better reflexes than Cap due to his enhanced senses. Fighting ability is even because I haven't really seen anything that Wolverine hasn't demonstrated before.
Originally posted by capt it up
speed wolverine. he ran faster then peopel could see. that a lot faster then 60 miles.
strength wolverine. ur feat of capt benching was 1,200 not 2,200. also wolverine has more impressive feats.
capt has peakhuman agility. wolevrien has superhuman agility and has proven to keep up with spidemran and night crawler.
reflexes wolverine and ur reason for pickign capt were terrable.
fight ability? capt made wolevrien look like a noob? now ur just makign shit up since capt lost and was unabel to beat a were wolf minded wolverine.
What the hell? When has Wolverine run faster than people could see? If by "faster than people could see", you just mean really fast? Then sure. I'll agree with that. But not faster than Cap.
Wolverine would never be able to do perform the agility-required/acrobatic feats that Cap does. I don't have the scan (but it's around here somewhere) of Cap dodging dozens of lasers firing at him simultaneously IN A SMALL ROOM no less.
In a no-shield, no-claws/healing factor/adamantium bones fight, Cap would whip Logan's ass. Hard.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
What the hell? When has Wolverine run faster than people could see? If by "faster than people could see", you just mean really fast? Then sure. I'll agree with that. But not faster than Cap.Wolverine would never be able to do perform the agility-required/acrobatic feats that Cap does. I don't have the scan (but it's around here somewhere) of Cap dodging dozens of lasers firing at him simultaneously IN A SMALL ROOM no less.
In a no-shield, no-claws/healing factor/adamantium bones fight, Cap would whip Logan's ass. Hard.
wolverine has done a better feat then the one ur talken about
again ur oppion which I do not agree with
Originally posted by capt it upwolverine did a dash once, ONCE if i show something where cap has done that, than i guess that makes cap better, since he has done it far more than once,right??? cap has 1100 pounds on each side....1100 +1100=2200, cap doesnt have peak human agility he has virtually super-human agility, his bio says so, and wolverine has never been shown to have superhuman agility....he has shown some impressive things..but nothing "superhuman" a back flip isnt superhuman....
speed wolverine. he ran faster then peopel could see. that a lot faster then 60 miles.
strength wolverine. ur feat of capt benching was 1,200 not 2,200. also wolverine has more impressive feats.
capt has peakhuman agility. wolevrien has superhuman agility and has proven to keep up with spidemran and night crawler.
reflexes wolverine and ur reason for pickign capt were terrable.
fight ability? capt made wolevrien look like a noob? now ur just makign shit up since capt lost and was unabel to beat a were wolf minded wolverine.
Originally posted by capt it up
I do not read alpha flight reguerly or sentry. thudnerbols I only read when it features new swordmen. I read FF only when I have enough money. I do not read black panther or namor.I read all x-men and aveneger titles. I read winter soldier,capt,all wolverine titles,and a few others
First of all, you didn't answer my other question.
"Wait, wait, wait. How come Wolverine can easily perform Cap's shield feats but Cap can't easily perform Wolverine's claw feats? Please explain that one."
Second, you read ALL X-men titles? You do know just how many that is, correct? I find that VERY hard to believe.
And since you don't read Black Panther nor Namor, how are you always so sure of yourself that Wolverine defeats these two? I've seen you defend him against both of them, when you clearly don't know any comic-knowledge about them.
Originally posted by King KAM
see....thats where yo0ure wrong...you dont even read cap.Speed:cap(wolverine dont run 60mph, nor does he dodge as many bullets)
Strength😛robably cap(cap has feets of him breaking through steel benching over2200 pounds easily, and pressing 700pound people easily)
Agility: easily cap(cap is superhumanly agile and has proven to be able to keep up with beast in agility)
Intelligence:Cap
Reflexes: Cap(if wolverines reflexes were so good, he wouldnt get shot all the time)
Fighting ability:Cap(in their fight cap made wolverine look like a Noob)
Speed: Wolverine has out run a back of Wild Boars, kept up with a herd of mustang and has on many occasions run with (even out run) packs of grey wolves. On one occasion in MCP a secret agent he was teamed with betrayed him and knocked him out then hoped in his car an started driving away and what happens? Wolverine has already out ran his car and cut down a massive tree to block the road. At the very least he is as fast as Cap... and that is being generous Cap.
Strength: I have said before that I think Cap is stronger but the edge is so slight that it means less then nothing and with Wolverine's blows packing the extra weight/force of his adamantium bones he is still going to be hitting much harder then Cap anyway.
Agility: Wolverine has also kept up with Beast in agility (And Nightcrawler at that) in fact he is so successful at it that he has even fouled people into thinking he was Beast on at least two occasions.
Intelligence: Cap is a better strategist then Wolverine but is he smarter? Doubtful, Wolverine isn't stupid.
Reflexes: Wolverine allows the bullets to hit him. By your logic Cap is more agile then Superman because he too allows bullets to hit him (that is an extreme example but you get the point). Wolverine has dodged bullets on many occasions and when he lost his healing factor and was forced to fight Archangel he dodge all of his blades. Wolverine has even dodged and blocked Ripetides shuriken, and he throws those things so fast that they have penetrated Colossus's hide!
Fighting Ability: Captain America has never beaten Wolverine in a fight. A mind controlled Wolverine with 0 fighting skill was beating Cap though. Oh, and what happened the first time Cap got into a fight with the Hand? He got his ass kicked and would have died if Wolverine didn't show up and save his ass (and he didn't even uses his claws). I'll give Cap the benefit of the doubt and say he is Wolverine's equal in skill though.
Originally posted by batdude123being able to smell and hear better than me makes me faster...??? doubt it
I don't believe I said anything about his senses having something to do with his agility. I said that Wolverine has better reflexes due to his sense. 😉
Originally posted by capt it upBRILLIANT ARGUMENT!!!.....NOT! and show us the feat than...because im pretty sure it IS the one we are thinking about.
wolverine is faster then capt.wolverine has done a better feat then the one ur talken about
again ur oppion which I do not agree with
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Speed: Wolverine has out run a back of Wild Boars, kept up with a herd of mustang and has on many occasions run with (even out run) packs of grey wolves. On one occasion in MCP a secret agent he was teamed with betrayed him and knocked him out then hoped in his car an started driving away and what happens? Wolverine has already out ran his car and cut down a massive tree to block the road. At the very least he is as fast as Cap... and that is being generous Cap.Strength: I have said before that I think Cap is stronger but the edge is so slight that it means less then nothing and with Wolverine's blows packing the extra weight/force of his adamantium bones he is still going to be hitting much harder then Cap anyway.
Agility: Wolverine has also kept up with Beast in agility (And Nightcrawler at that) in fact he is so successful at it that he has even fouled people into thinking he was Beast on at least two occasions.
Intelligence: Cap is a better strategist then Wolverine but is he smarter? Doubtful, Wolverine isn't stupid.
Reflexes: Wolverine allows the bullets to hit him. By your logic Cap is more agile then Superman because he too allows bullets to hit him (that is an extreme example but you get the point). Wolverine has dodged bullets on many occasions and when he lost his healing factor and was forced to fight Archangel he dodge all of his blades. Wolverine has even dodged and blocked Ripetides shuriken, and he throws those things so fast that they have penetrated Colossus's hide!
Fighting Ability: Captain America has never beaten Wolverine in a fight. A mind controlled Wolverine with 0 fighting skill was beating Cap though. Oh, and what happened the first time Cap got into a fight with the Hand? He got his ass kicked and would have died if Wolverine didn't show up and save his ass (and he didn't even uses his claws). I'll give Cap the benefit of the doubt and say he is Wolverine's equal in skill though.
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Originally posted by King KAM
being able to smell and hear better than me makes me faster...??? doubt it BRILLIANT ARGUMENT!!!.....NOT! and show us the feat than...because im pretty sure it IS the one we are thinking about.
No, because of his senses, he has stated that he can see bullets going in slow motion. 😉
Originally posted by capt it up
wolverine is faster then capt.wolverine has done a better feat then the one ur talken about
again ur oppion which I do not agree with
Great counters there, by the way.
Cap is faster.
What is this better feat (that you so conveniently left out of your rebuttal) of Wolverine's that you speak of?
And all of this is your delusion which I don't agree with because I believe in facts and logic.
Oh yea, and comic evidence.
Originally posted by srankmissingninso now wild boars and grey wolves are as fast as cheetahs???
Speed: Wolverine has out run a back of Wild Boars, kept up with a herd of mustang and has on many occasions run with (even out run) packs of grey wolves. On one occasion in MCP a secret agent he was teamed with betrayed him and knocked him out then hoped in his car an started driving away and what happens? Wolverine has already out ran his car and cut down a massive tree to block the road. At the very least he is as fast as Cap... and that is being generous Cap.Strength: I have said before that I think Cap is stronger but the edge is so slight that it means less then nothing and with Wolverine's blows packing the extra weight/force of his adamantium bones he is still going to be hitting much harder then Cap anyway.
Agility: Wolverine has also kept up with Beast in agility (And Nightcrawler at that) in fact he is so successful at it that he has even fouled people into thinking he was Beast on at least two occasions.
Intelligence: Cap is a better strategist then Wolverine but is he smarter? Doubtful, Wolverine isn't stupid.
Reflexes: Wolverine allows the bullets to hit him. By your logic Cap is more agile then Superman because he too allows bullets to hit him (that is an extreme example but you get the point). Wolverine has dodged bullets on many occasions and when he lost his healing factor and was forced to fight Archangel he dodge all of his blades. Wolverine has even dodged and blocked Ripetides shuriken, and he throws those things so fast that they have penetrated Colossus's hide!
Fighting Ability: Captain America has never beaten Wolverine in a fight. A mind controlled Wolverine with 0 fighting skill was beating Cap though. Oh, and what happened the first time Cap got into a fight with the Hand? He got his ass kicked and would have died if Wolverine didn't show up and save his ass (and he didn't even uses his claws). I'll give Cap the benefit of the doubt and say he is Wolverine's equal in skill though.
cap doesnt have to keep up with beast...because he can just own him instead, and cap has done things that wolverine doesnt do in any of his showings, cap has more and better showings. so cap wins.
Captain america has snatches missles out the sky with his bare hands....thank you come again.
Wolverine is better at killing ninjas, wow, thats his specialyt just like caps specialty is terrorists....and cap wasnt losing that fight, he outskilled wolverine, all that kept wolverine in the fight was that he is FAR more durable, am i correct?
Originally posted by King KAM
He may not read wolverine but i do....Capt doesnt have over 20years experience....but the time he does have is FULL of fighting cap fights and trains far more than wolverine now days....and everyday of his life since he has had the serum....
Originally posted by King KAM
wolverine being in the woods did nothing but make him hear and smell better...like that actually matters here...we all know wolverine can outsmell cap....now as for the training and then going straight to WWI im not too sure about....but i do know that wolverine does have more "experience" but most of it is against nobodies, and in the streets....which wont help him here either.
actauly smelling and hear would have a huge part. wolverine could sense capt attcaks like DD did when he punked capt.
so ogun and a village full of some of the deadliest ninjas and assassins ar eno consider nobodies?
Originally posted by King KAM
marvel might not agree with cap being stronger faster and more agile, in the rankings...but i thought we were using actuall comic knowlege here...because if you want actual comic knowlege than i can tell you that....
Originally posted by King KAM
more agile... cap consitantly uses his agility in fights to leap over opponents and make them look like fools, lady deathstrike a woman who gives wovlerine trouble was made a fool of by captain america
Originally posted by King KAM
better reflexes, cap constantly dodges bullets coming at him from all sides, not only does he get shot at more than wolverine, but he gets hit WAYYYYY less, cap has been shot under 50times....wolverine gets shot about 50times a day, if wolverine was had as good of reflexes and speed wouldnt he just be able to get out of the way??
wolverine ahs betetr reflex and can easiliy match capt best feat and eaisliy beat it. also are u honestly trying to use wolverine getitng hit as evdience when wolverine allows him self to get hit which is clearly shown.
Originally posted by King KAM
and cap has been shown to run up to about 58mph for a little over 5 miles, wolverine and only been shown to do some quick dashes here and there....which cap has also shown he can do too...
Originally posted by King KAM
and wolverine could never throw the shield like cap...it just aint happening...and as for what wolverine does with his claws...anyone could do that...throwing a boomerang and stabbin someone are on 2 different levels of difficulty