Navy approves first ever Satanist

Calling oneself a Satanist without believing in Satan would be the same as be a communist with capitalistic ideals

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Yeah, but, What if he royally kicked your ass when you tried destroying him? then the ass beating you got would have been your fault.

he would not as i would attack him with a wepon of some kind, he would not even see me coming, better him than me

It is better to die in battle than on your knees, if he "royally" beat me up at least i tryed

i would not see a problom with a satan worshiper being inlisted satanism is just a branch of christainanity

no its not. If anything its a branch of atheism.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I was making an example. You judged those people as ''creepy'' before you even knew what their religion was all about.
I was doing the same to you, and you didnt like it - cruel irony.

did yall know that the catholic church is the only one that has an account set up just for paying off grieving families who accuse preists of reaming thier sons?

didnt have anything to do with anything i just thought i throw it out there. heard it on CNN, BTW

I dont know if i could go as far as to say that Satansim is gloriifed atheism. i would more liken it to looking-for-attention-and-trying-to-be-different-by-all-doing-the-same-thing-ism.(lol, i slay me) Why? cuz the fact that they believe in a "Satan" to me that signifes that they at least acknowledge that there is a "God", maybe in thier own sick little animal sacrificing, mate swapping, blood drinking, sometimes child raping world they want to choose sides in an attempt to avoid hell. the sick bastards

Well It matters by the religion if some of beliefs are harmful thinking or not.I mean you can believe in something that full of hate yes it's thats person belief but like the KKK they have the right to be a group but that doesn't mean it's a good thing at all and you guys no it.

Who Cares?

Are you guys for real.

Stan from South Park said it best in the Nambla episode "Yeah we believe in equality and everything but F*@k You?"

Who cares?Do you guys no what Satan stands for I'm a Catholic and not too crazy and opposesit on anaybody but Atheist have every right to be who they are but someone who believes in Satan doesn't sound wrong too you guys.

What wrong with you guys????

I mean it.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Thats so trippy, because im just watching Robin Williams live (again), and he just mentioned that exact thing.

Anyway, I dont see the problem. Why is your friend worried and threatened about someone else's religion? He should be more worried and threatned by the fact that he could get blown off any second when in war, not if a person next to him is gay or a Satanist.

I'm taking a lucky guess here on why his friend would be worried about this:
Sa·tan·ism The worship of Satan characterized by a travesty of the Christian rites.
satanism Profound wickedness.
It's a sign of wickedness, they are very deceiving people, in my opinion.

Atheist have every right to be who they are but someone who believes in Satan doesn't sound wrong too you guys.

It's a sign of wickedness, they are very deceiving people, in my opinion

Just because the christians find it wicked doesnt mean it has to be so.

So, doing evil things doesn't mean it's evil cuz I think it is? Wickedness is evil, thats not christainity saying that, nor religion, it's the dictionary, its a fact of what a SATANIST is.

Satanists do not believe in Satan, nor do they believe in God! Believe it or not, the dictionary is wrong about most Satanists. SOME Satanists probably literally worship the Christian Satan, but the Church of Satan, which is the official Satanic "denomination," is an atheist organization. They do not believe in God, and they don't believe in Satan. Is that really so hard to understand? People are so quick to judge things based on their name/stereotype/whatever... Saying Satanists literally worship the devil just because they have it in their name is like saying the band Bad Religion is actually a religion because they have that word in their name. Or that the band In Flames is literally on fire.

I'm not making this up, guys, this is information that can be found on the COS's website.

"We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path. We do not bow down before the myths and fictions of the desiccated spiritual followers of the Right-Hand Path."

^Quoted directly from the title page of the COS's website

http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

I doubt that anybody here will care about what the site says, seeing as most of you probably believe it's just "Satan's lies" or some shit like that, but there it is if you want to see it. See, god, I did something good today, opening people's eyes to the hypocrisy of their religion. Judging things and such...

If they don't believe in Satan then why the hell did they name themselves Satanists? Just to mess with Christians? Usually when a religion has a name in it, it is the name of who they worship. Ex: Christianity and Buddhism. I'm sorry but if they named themselves Satanists and then get mad when people think they worship Satan that is their own fault.

Still... any religion should be able to join the navy. Just because they have opposing beliefs doesn't mean they don't have skills that may be useful and shouldn't be able to have the same opportunities as anyone else. Everyone has a right to believe whatever they want, even if it is completely retarded or even "wicked."

But I did go to the site and the beliefs aren't as "evil" as you may think. Sure they are a little more cutthroat, and really over the top, but the underlying message isn't too bad on some of the rules. I noticed two of the rules were don't kill animals unless its self defense or food, and don't harm little children. But I would say they do worship Satan judging from that site. I couldn't find the part where they said they don't.

I just quoted the part where they say they don't worship Satan... 😕

"We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path. We do not bow down before the myths and fictions of the desiccated spiritual followers of the Right-Hand Path."

Yeah, I think they do call themselves Satanists just to piss Christians off. I don't know that they themselves necessarily get mad when people think they worship Satan--they have a thing against stupid, judgemental people anyways, and they don't want anybody "unworthy" in their religion. Pisses me off, though.

So, doing evil things doesn't mean it's evil cuz I think it is? Wickedness is evil, thats not christainity saying that, nor religion, it's the dictionary, its a fact of what a SATANIST is.

This argument has branched off to the evils of Satanism and Satanism vs other religions et all,but the point we are missing is why did this guy join the forces? if his intentions are right then i have no qualm. But in the same respects you could get a Christian joining the army with negative intentions not only to his unit, his force but also his country.
We can't always look to peoples religious beliefs to view them in general its just not possible.

i can't believe we even having this conversation.Yes a christian can have evil intentions but the religion is not telling you to do those things.But SATANIST are a bunch of Hand Banging kids who mommy and daddy made them go to Sunday school.C'mon these people are just like the KKK a group that want to just hate and piss people off that's why I don't see it as an religion.I don't care if they hate Catholics Atheist have there reasons but screw them.

Did you go to the site? It's basically just saying do whatever you want as long as it isn't harming others. Maybe there are satanist out there who sacrifice animals and other stuff but it looks to me like their rules and philosophies don't condone that type of behavior at all. There are extremists of any religion.

And yeah Darth, I saw that I just don't think that exactly means they don't worship satan I think what they mean by "we are our own gods" is that they do whatever they want without worrying about what god might think. To me that isn't clear enough to assume they don't worship satan. Seeing as their church's name is Church of Satan and all...

"Welcome to the official website of the Church of Satan. Founded on April 30, 1966 c.e. by Anton Szandor LaVey, we are the first above-ground organization in history openly dedicated to the acceptance of Man’s true nature—that of a carnal beast, living in a cosmos which is permeated and motivated by the Dark Force which we call Satan. Over the course of time, Man has called this Force by many names, and it has been reviled by those whose very nature causes them to be separate from this fountainhead of existence. They live in obsessive envy of we who exist by flowing naturally with the dread Prince of Darkness. It is for this reason that individuals who resonate with Satan have always been an alien elite, often outsiders in cultures whose masses pursue solace in an external deity. We Satanists are our own Gods, and we are the explorers of the Left-Hand Path. We do not bow down before the myths and fictions of the desiccated spiritual followers of the Right-Hand Path. "

I dont if it's just me, but when I read that I could come to a conclusion that they worship satan.

Yes, I read that as well... I just think that when they say "Satan," they mean something more like the Force in Star Wars than the Christian version of an antagonistic godly power. They obviously believe in some kind of a supernatural power, but people shouldn't assume that by Satan they mean Lucifer.

Yeah I think it's safe to assume that by Satan they don't mean a red guy with horns.

LOL no you are saying the dictionary is wrong? So, because some organization, decides to change what the word satainist means, and so now, it no longer means that, cuz they say so?? lol come on
Satanist are known for doing evil and sacrifices, thats NOT something I made up or christains made up (you are only saying that to me finti lol cuz you know I am one hehe), it's a known fact.