Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Well, i stopped reading DC a long time ago. There story lines are so damn complex i dont even think DC knows whats goin on anymore. I was reading some superman comics, and it turned out to not be Superman, but Superman from Earth 2, and then they started talking Earth 1 and infinite Earth, and i said hell no! I usually read alot of darkhorse, because there is alot of variety there and they are not bound by a pg-13 rating. I just read anything i think will be good anymore, i dont stick to a certain line anymore. I have been getting into the horror comics more and more, you ever read the walking dead? that is a damn good comic, that you cannot predict. I'm on the 16th issue and i dont trust that any of the main characters will survive.

dont get me wrong, i still pick up the occasional marvel comic to see if anything new is going on, and to my dismay everyhting is the same. I really cannot forgive marvel for changing the comics to reflect the movies. That just pissed me off, but i cant turn my back completely because they were my roots. what about you, what is your aim in comics?

I like to pick up something a little new at least once a month. For example I saw love hina in the library and first thought it was just cheap laughs but then found out it finished with a great ending and well develop maturing characters.

I am now reading the Faerie's Landing series and am on Chapter 9, when it is released, which should be today or so. There was also an eastern comic called Way of The Rat that I found interesting,and I like to read Inuyasha when I can find it.

For Western comics, I've read new X-men, Ultimate X-men,Ultimate Spiderman, Classic Spider man, Spiderman Tangled web, Batman, Superman, the Justice League, Hulk boiling point among others. These days it seems like they are you using more mature content ( nothing really wrong with that) but they seem to be doing it to boost sales. I guess you have to give them some credit in attempts to keep these characters alive for several decades without trying to get stale, Which means more deaths, and characters winning and losing matches that don't make sense.

P.S something about that John Lennon Pick and the 8 ball make you seem like someone who tells it like it is. 😮‍💨

Cap and DD try to confuse Spidey's spider-sense by throwing the shield and the billy club with precision but the attack is dodged easily and Spider-man seems to be moving much faster than usual and is unnaturally silent....

With a motion that is so fast even DD has trouble following the two weapons are snared as they return to their owners and thrown half a mile away leaving Cap defenseless and DD on the defensive...

Wolverine has been pretty useless so far due to the fact that Spidey has been three stories high since the fight started and is out of his reach...but he's ready to assist Cap in removing the web line that hit his wrist as he tried to evade...

but even as Wolverine slices the webline from cap he realizes that Spidey wasn't trying to target Cap but DD instead

...as DD narrowly escapes the clothesline that Spidey had swung down to give him he feels something latch onto his back, and though he sensed Spidey's 180 as he ducked he couldn't move fast enough to avoid a second attack that followed so quickly. This mistake proved to be his last as Spider-man quickly delivered a boneshattering blow to DD's airborne midsection. Wolverine immediately goes berserk and begins to pursue Spidey despite the fact that Spidey is perched on the roof of a low building....

With two leaps Wolverine is face to face with Spidey and Cap is right behind him...Wolverine leaps with his claws ready to shred Spidey....But Spidey leaps as well straight off of the building but Wolverine wastes no time leaping after him, trying to catch him in midair....

Unfortunately for Wolverine Spidey had planned on Wolvie being his regular hotblooded leap before you look self, and he was the one who was caught in midair...by a generous amount of webbing that covered him from top to bottom and left him completely helpless against another web assault that assured the fact that he wasn't going anywhere.....

By now Cap is launching a flying kick at Spidey that would have killed even him, but the Spider-sense telegraphed the move and Spidey dodged it easily but was grazed by the second kick that was faster than any normal human could have delivered. Only super durability kept him from losing some teeth....

Cap, unrelenting, follows up with another lightning fast kick that connects, and knocks Spidey down..and seemingly out. But as Cap turns around to attempt assisting Wolverine in escaping suffocation Spidey springs with inhuman speed from lying face down to spearing Captain America in his back hard enough to knock the wind, but not the fight, out of the American hero..

Cap retaliates by flipping Spidey in front of himself to absorb the impact but doing this causes Spidey to tighten his grip and break some of Cap's ribs... The wounded hero stands again, ready to fight to the death... But there is still much honor in Spider-man despite having lost his concern for the safety of attackers...

So he webs Cap up and takes him to the hospital because out of the trio Captain America is the one who demands the respect of even the Spider-man! Fin 😮‍💨

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Oh yes the great one vs one scenerios. All bow down to giving the trio the stupidity disadvantage that makes them just stand there as spiderman fights them one on one.

Edit: And why wuoldn't spiderman respect daredevil?

You never read the "blind leading the blind" where Daredevil helped spiderman when he was temporarily blinded?

Originally posted by Creshosk
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Oh yes the great one vs one scenerios. All bow down to giving the trio the stupidity disadvantage that makes them just stand there as spiderman fights them one on one.

Spidey has the definite manueverability advantage.

Spidey doesn't have to be stupid and try to fight these guys on the ground all at once....But that's what would have to happen for the trio to win easily...and it wouldn't happen. 😮‍💨

Since the conditions of this fight are to the death he obviously doesn't respect any of them enough to hold back....But Captain America stands out as a veteran of war and all of Marvels heroes have a great amount of respect for him.

I have read the blind leading the blind but this battle is to the death and hypothetical....So they aren't friends here. 😎

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But obviously the trio are stupid enough to just stand there while spiderman fights any one of them.

...as DD narrowly escapes the clothesline that Spidey had swung down to give him

CA: Hey would ya look at that?

he feels something latch onto his back, and though he sensed Spidey's 180 as he ducked

Wolvie: Kid's not bad, did you catch the game last night?

he couldn't move fast enough to avoid a second attack that followed so quickly. This mistake proved to be his last as Spider-man quickly delivered a boneshattering blow to DD's airborne midsection.

Wolvie: Nevermind DD's down . . wait here idly doing nothing while I go beserk

Wolverine immediately goes berserk and begins to pursue Spidey despite the fact that Spidey is perched on the roof of a low building....

Ca: damn spiderman moves faster than the eye can track. must be "blinding speed".

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You do know that by using his strength with the momentum of his arc he can move at speeds of up to 150 mph right? DD was ducking the closthline at the same time Wolverine was cutting the web off of Cap and that had to be done or there would have been two bodies in the air. Berserk or not Wolverine can't fly or leap high enough to be a threat to Spidey in an environment that has any tall structures at all. He can pursue faster than Cap though but it would still take them a bit longer than Spidey to scale even a two story building.

And I bet any scenario you come up with will be short sweet and to YOUR liking. Personally I feel that the trio is exceptionally weak and that Spidey has to be depowered and the trio hyped up to challenge him at all.

It's an ugly truth that these guy's are near human level strength and durabilty, even wolverine who has been hyped up drastically. His mutant power is a healing factor that allows him to survive and completely heal up from injuries that would be terminal for others....Sometimes people forget that he doesn't have a healing factor like Hulk's and can take a long time to heal from serious injuries like the ones that a true to form Spidey can deliver. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
You do know that by using his strength with the momentum of his arc he can move at speeds of up to 150 mph right? DD was ducking the closthline at the same time Wolverine was cutting the web off of Cap and that had to be done or there would have been two bodies in the air. Berserk or not Wolverine can't fly or leap high enough to be a threat to Spidey in an environment that has any tall structures at all. He can pursue faster than Cap though but it would still take them a bit longer than Spidey to scale even a two story building.

And why would he have to duck the clothseline instead of flipping back?

Originally posted by The MISTER
[B]Cap and DD try to confuse Spidey's spider-sense by throwing the shield and the billy club with precision but the attack is dodged easily and Spider-man seems to be moving much faster than usual and is unnaturally silent....

With a motion that is so fast even DD has trouble following the two weapons are snared as they return to their owners and thrown half a mile away leaving Cap defenseless and DD on the defensive...

Because we all know that godly precog of spidey's tells him exactly where they're going to bounce even if they aren't near him and are not traveling at him.

And he's "moving faster than he normally does" 🙄

And this is a logical scenerio? I was right. no scenerio from the trio's side can be made that the spidey fanboys would think is logical. 😆

Originally posted by Creshosk
And obviously it takes hours to cut Cap free especially when it was only one line that wasn't taught as spiderman didn't attatch the other end there. So let's just ignore the threat to remove the loose peice of webbing from cap. 🙄

And why would he have to duck the clothseline instead of flipping back?

Because we all know that godly precog of spidey's tells him exactly where they're going to bounce even if they aren't near him and are not traveling at him.

And he's "moving faster than he normally does" 🙄

And this is a logical scenerio? I was right. no scenerio from the trio's side can be made that the spidey fanboys would think is logical. 😆

Well now you see why I don't get paid to be a writer 😆 But at least I tried and the last thing that you said isn't true.

I would be the first one to agree with a logical scenario where the trio wins... they have the advantage of numbers and I'm not being biased, I really don't know WHY these three COULD beat Spider-man and nobody has given me anything more than a bunch of hype that surrounds Wolverine. In fact most people are just voting for wolverine and figuring that with help HE'S invincible. In fact I already agreed that if this were in an actual comic Spidey wouldn't win unless he was being framed and ran into them on the way to clear his name....

But if popularity played NO part in the outcome and all of these guys were unknowns....Spidey slaughters them and could care less IMO 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
Well now you see why I don't get paid to be a writer 😆 But at least I tried and the last thing that you said isn't true.

That's the reason though why I don't try to come up with "in the fight scenerios". but like your rerason why they fight scenerio (which was a pretty good reason to get them to fight) which would be particularly difficult because the trio knows spidey to be a good guy and vice versa

Originally posted by The MISTER
I would be the first one to agree with a logical scenario where the trio wins... they have the advantage of numbers and I'm not being biased, I really don't know WHY these three COULD beat Spider-man and nobody has given me anything more than a bunch of hype that surrounds Wolverine. In fact most people are just voting for wolverine and figuring that with help HE'S invincible. In fact I already agreed that if this were in an actual comic Spidey wouldn't win unless he was being framed and ran into them on the way to clear his name....

But if popularity played NO part in the outcome and all of these guys were unknowns....Spidey slaughters them and could care less IMO 😮‍💨

Yes finally a scenario! Good job MISTER , let me give it a try. It's not so much as the trios stupidity that would allow spidey to attack them one on one, its more of spidey's intelligence and superior speed and methods of traveling and isolation to put that plan into action. Since spidey takes advantage of the opportunity of the enemies offensive, he usually sets himself up for the chance of a counter-strike making him ideal for multiple opponents as it has been shown before, and giving him on edge or advantage in a normal scenario,even without a wall too make it too unfair.

Granted these guys are excellent fighters and can nill him if he miscalculates or allows himself to be boxed in, but seeing how small he is and his ability to stay high in the air gives him a chance yet. 👆

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Yes finally a scenario!

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
It's not so much as the trios stupidity that would allow spidey to attack them one on one, its more of spidey's intelligence

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and superior speed and methods of traveling and isolation to put that plan into action.

He's a loner so he can fight them one on one? 🤨

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Since spidey takes advantage of the opportunity of the enemies offensive, he usually sets himself up for the chance of a counter-strike

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
making him ideal for multiple opponents as it has been shown

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
before, and giving him on edge or advantage in a normal scenario,even without a wall too make it too unfair.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Granted these guys are excellent fighters and can nill him if he miscalculates or allows himself to be boxed in, but seeing how small he is and his ability to stay high in the air gives him a chance yet. 👆

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
before, and giving him on edge or advantage in a normal scenario,even without a wall too make it too unfair.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
and his ability to stay high in the air gives him a chance yet.

So even without a wall he can astill stay high in the air? So what, does he fly now too?

Good job on the Scenario mister. Yeah and at least he tried, Its harder to try to come up with a scenario that puts a hypothetical fight into motion using the powers and abilities given as fuel for the scenarios use: an explanation that is one easier for our minds to imagine and calculate, its easier to post everyones previous posts onto yours and make fun of trivial matters. WHY DID HE DUCK INSTEAD OF FLIP? I HATE PUBERTY! I HATE MY MOM! ETC. Who knows? Make up your own explanation, the whole point of the scenario to illustrate your point of view. Don't be scared of everyone not agreeing with you, or you looking like a fool, you have proved you are not. Everyone is not going to agree with every nanodetail of what you typed, they have different point of views, and you are here to make your point as accurately and as closing as possible leaving no questions asked. You said someone almost beat your counter point, but left it 10% unfinished, that is what happens unintentionally, when you criticize every detail. You know the difference between peak human and superhuman, you know spidey's way stronger than these guys, if you didn't you wouldn't have lasted long here in the first place.I have yet to see you make a point without a previous post being brought up and exaggerated like you don't know what the debator meant. NO HE DOESN'T fly, it just seems like he does to you since he actually targets high tangible objects and launches himself higher and higher, its been shown forever. Make a scenario like you attempted to in the Batman forum and see what happens you may be surprised in the increased depth in the argument. I know you would have no problem if a trio member struck spidey from behind once and ko'ed him. I apologize if this seems like the slightest bit of insult, just an analyzation with some encouragement.

Again, thanks mister for the scenario, it didn't seem to out there to me and was a respectable attempt. Good Job. 🙂

"I pretty much think that statement says it all......fanboys..you gotta luv em..."

wait a minute.....I think wolverine can jump 30 feet into the air because he's shown the ability to do so more than several times......WHILE you think that spiderman can actually stand up to silver surfer......when he's never done so.....but you have the nerve to call me a fanboy? 😂

w-w-whatever.... 🙄

since we're all doing such fair and logical scenarios.......🙄

spiderman starts the fight strapped down to the ground with adamantium chains.....wolverine cuts his head off...the trio goes and eats pizza for a victory celebration.....

Originally posted by StrawNilla
I think it's time to get redundant just one more time by listing, from memory, as many victory tactics Spidey can pull off:

-Spidey can web up the lot of them to the point of their immobility

-Spidey can speedblitz the slowest member first (DD), then go on to leaping over Cap (and around his shield) to the back of him and snap his spine with an unpulled punch, and duck under a charging Wolvie so that he ends up tumbling a few feet head over heels...then as he slows Spidey could web him down and/or KO him

-Spidey can suffocate them with webbing by filling their noses, mouths, etc with webbing

-Spidey can latch onto each member with his webbing and throw them a few meters (or miles) away from their place of battle

-Spidey can latch onto each character with webbing and throw them into a wall REEEEAAALLY hard

-Spidey can take one member by the arm and slam him into the others, then, as they are down, web them up to the point of immobilization

-Spidey can take a car and use it to swing it at their sides, knocking them off their feet and (assuming Spidey uses the proper amount of force) kill DD and Cap, leaving a cringing Wolvie susceptible to being pinned under the car (he's not going anywhere soon while he's pinned under a couple tons of metal)

That's it from what I can recall from memory, but, that doesn't make the possibilites any less plentiful.

No offense, but when has he jumped 30 feet vertically?

Could you please scan me some, I know you'll come through.

The reason that he probably thought spidey could stand up to ss is because the stats say he is simply normal hand2 hand.

still you have to admit the sheer ridiculousness of it...and I'll get right on those pics...

Sorry didn't mean to double post, Straw's statement finished RIGHT after mine.

Whats up straw, I am going to try to explain why they don't halfway agree with some strength feats.

In the PLEASE READ THIS!!! by Paola and Tron,it states a condition, certain powers that are in the characters ablility that aren't shown in comic pages can be used or something like that. The example was" Flash can Ko his opponents in the first Picoseconds of the fight, even though it is not written as so against His Major Opponets.

Spidey is not written per say as a STRENGTH character but as a TACTICAL OR CLEVER character. He is more than capable of flattening the cliche' bank robber, but you will usually see him web him up, or steal the gun and knock him on his butt. He wont trade punches and favors agility and maneurvalibiliay, which is how he is seen, and is much cooler, since he has sooo many other powers anyway, using strength alone would not allow him to exploit, agility, speed, pre cog, etc.

Hulk on the other hand, is a STRENGTH character, even though his alter ego is highly intelligent, it is not favored. He can move fast and jump, but you won't see him racing or dancing around. You will see him pow missles, break rock etc. Hulk making it to point a to point B faster than wolvie, dare devil, or spidey, would be argued against even though it is possible and feasible.

Spidey is definitely not a top tier lifter, but he has shown some amazing feats of strength with him and his webbing, and could overpower peak humans in a show of strength, and ko many in one blow or kill, it wont be shown as it is not spideys style. In the end the point of this thread was to go outside of normal character and not hold back. I hope this speech cleared something up or made some sense or helped. 😮‍💨