Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Originally posted by BobbyD
This fight is over in less than 60 seconds. The only way I see a possible victory is for Spidey to flee, thus ensuing a chase scenario. It is possible he could pick each off individually, one at a time, depending on who gets to him first.

But, if you say Spidey is on the offensive and like wants to go try and kick some booty? He goes down in less than 60 seconds.

Are you aware that Spiderman's three opponents have approximately peak human strength and speed? Are you aware that Spiderman has an early warning danger sense and super speed that is somewhere between 15 and 40 times faster than human? His spider-sense and speed should allow to dodge any and every attack they provide. Are you aware that the most common report of Spiderman's strength is the ability to lift about 10 tons? Which about quadruples the accumulated strength of the other three. Are you aware that in a long range attack, Spiderman can snag any one of them in a web line and throw them about 50ft? In close range, Spidy can do all sorts of things. He could grab any of their limbs and throw that hero away. He could punch his fist through Daredevil's and Cap's face. What are the other three going to do? Is Cap going to throw his shield? Is Daredevil going to kick him? Are they going to do anything that Spiderman can't evade while cracking jokes? If you are going to go that route of saying that the writers will never let three of their most popular heroes lose to one. Don't bother, I already know that. But, can you explain how those three will stand a chance in a well written book?

I've taken consideration of Spider-Man's powers and abilities, but against three of the most highly trained and skilled superheroes in the Marvel Universe, I doubt Spidey would win. DareDevil beat him on his own. Captain America is not stupid, he's the Avengers leader for a reason. He'll coordinate DD and Wolvie to take down Spidey.

Checkmate?

Originally posted by Draco69
I've taken consideration of Spider-Man's powers and abilities, but against three of the most highly trained and skilled superheroes in the Marvel Universe, I doubt Spidey would win. DareDevil beat him on his own. Captain America is not stupid, he's the Avengers leader for a reason. He'll coordinate DD and Wolvie to take down Spidey.

When did Daredevil beat him? When Spidy was hypnotized? What attack can Cap coordinate that Spiderman couldn't evade? Draco, would you agree that peak speed is a fair assessment for the team of three? Would you also agree that Spidy's speed lies somewhere between 15 and 40 times faster than human? I would appreciate if you responded to my questions.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Checkmate?

Just so you know, nobody will ever be checkmated in any vs. thread.

DD has beaten him on several occassions and Spidey even admits this all the time. Actually now of days when their in comics together they will often crack jokes about it and laugh it off instead of wasting time and punching at each other while allowing the bad guys to get away.

Daredevil beat him some time in the late 90's. Don't remember which issue exactly. As I said before I'm well aware of Spider-Man's powers and abilities. But I'm also aware that Spider-Man is going up against a two-hundred year-old samarai with decades of combat experience, a supersoldier, who's quite possibly the most well-trained fighter in the Marvel Universe, and vilgilante who can hear a pin drop a mile away. Spider-Man's a good fighter, but he's going up against the best of the best. Speed and strength can only carry Spider-Man so far. Captain America, Wolverine and Daredevil are all aware of how Spider-Man fights. They have his measure to begin with. Spider-Man's spent years fighting costumed clowns in the Big Apple. Captain America's been in WWII, he's battled gods, aliens, and survived impossible situations that would topple one's imagination. He's mastered every martial art known to man. Wolverine is living weapon with a remarkable healing factor, an unbreakable skeleton, a master of all known martial arts, and has over two-hundred years of battle experience against the Hand, samarais, mutant menaces, etc. Daredevil wields an incredible extrasensory radar sense that enables to dodge virtually any oncoming attack. He's mastered numerous martial arts.

Spider-Man is stronger, faster and certainly more agile than any of them. But against the most dangerous men in the Marvel Universe, these assets mean next to nothing. Cap's team takes it.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
DD has beaten him on several occassions and Spidey even admits this all the time. Actually now of days when their in comics together they will often crack jokes about it and laugh it off instead of wasting time and punching at each other while allowing the bad guys to get away.

Actually, Spiderman and Daredevil crack jokes about how your a crazy fanboy that completely makes up stuff. I wish Wolverine888 was here. It would be a monumental occasion. The day the two biggest fanboys joined forces. It would be the deadly alliance.

DareDevil doesnt fight such an unhonorable fight. I can see him walking home from work and hearing Spidey getting beat up by Wolverine and Cap and then helping webhead to make it a more even match and possibly convincing everyone to stop.

Originally posted by Draco69
Daredevil beat him some time in the late 90's. Don't remember which issue exactly. As I said before I'm well aware of Spider-Man's powers and abilities. But I'm also aware that Spider-Man is going up against a two-hundred year-old samarai with decades of combat experience, a supersoldier, who's quite possibly the most well-trained fighter in the Marvel Universe, and vilgilante who can hear a pin drop a mile away. Spider-Man's a good fighter, but he's going up against the best of the best. Speed and strength can only carry Spider-Man so far. Captain America, Wolverine and Daredevil are all aware of how Spider-Man fights. They have his measure to begin with. Spider-Man's spent years fighting costumed clowns in the Big Apple. Captain America's been in WWII, he's battled gods, aliens, and survived impossible situations that would topple one's imagination. He's mastered every martial art known to man. Wolverine is living weapon with a remarkable healing factor, an unbreakable skeleton, a master of all known martial arts, and has over two-hundred years of battle experience against the Hand, samarais, mutant menaces, etc. Daredevil wields an incredible extrasensory radar sense that enables to dodge virtually any oncoming attack. He's mastered numerous martial arts.

Spider-Man is stronger, faster and certainly more agile than any of them. But against the most dangerous men in the Marvel Universe, these assets mean next to nothing. Cap's team takes it.

All those credentials you listed for those three are true. Except for Daredevil being able to dodge virtually any attack. Besides that, all those credentials are true. Unfortunately, there is still a tremendous amount of superheroes that can dispatch all three of those heroes easily. The Flash has none of their credentials and can easily take out over 100 clones of those heroes. Now, tell me what attack Cap can coordinate that Spiderman couldn't dodge? Also, please answer this clearly so I know we are on the same page. Do you completely agree with my assessment of each of the heroes physical stats?

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
DareDevil doesnt fight such an unhonorable fight. I can see him walking home from work and hearing Spidey getting beat up by Wolverine and Cap and then helping webhead to make it a more even match and possibly convincing everyone to stop.

Well, Daredevil would not want to fight other good guys, period. But, this is a vs. topic. Pretend Spiderman slept with all their mothers, right before all four were warped an giant arena.

To Matches-Malone:

I agree with the heroes physical stats and assets of speeds.

The Flash is capable of exceeding lightspeed. He could take 100 clones of them in a picosecond. Spider-Man cannot exceed lightspeed. This is a faulty comparision. There are numerous superheroes that could take out all three with ease (i.e. Thor, Iron Man, Magneto, Superman, etc) but, for the reasons above, Spider-Man is not one of them. Spider-Man is capable of dodging numerous attacks due to his Spider-Sense and agility, but he can only keep up the pace for so long. Eventually Spider-Man would get sloppy and get tagged. This all that these three battle veterans need to take out Spider-Man

Please, excuse my multiples posts here. I apologize. But, I forgot to mention. When you say best of the best, Draco, I hope you mean best of street level type. Because, these three are far from the best in the big scheme of things. An untold number of these characters can be beaten by someone like Silver Surfer. These three may be great in a karate demonstration, but could get destroyed by more powerful heroes.

Originally posted by MatchesMalone
All those credentials you listed for those three are true. Except for Daredevil being able to dodge virtually any attack. Besides that, all those credentials are true. Unfortunately, there is still a tremendous amount of superheroes that can dispatch all three of those heroes easily. The Flash has none of their credentials and can easily take out over 100 clones of those heroes. Now, tell me what attack Cap can coordinate that Spiderman couldn't dodge? Also, please answer this clearly so I know we are on the same page. Do you completely agree with my assessment of each of the heroes physical stats?

If you think DD couldnt easily dodge any attack read some of their fights and you will be unpleasnatly surprised. Actually whenever they were to fight it would be just that. Spider-man would be running from the cops and DD would try and talk to him about it so Spider-man would start throwing punches and miss every one. Then DD would get off about 100 hits while webhead struggles to get one. In the end they would both get a cup of Coffee at Starbucks or something. lol

Originally posted by Draco69
To Matches-Malone:

I agree with the heroes physical stats and assets of speeds.

The Flash is capable of exceeding lightspeed. He could take 100 clones of them in a picosecond. Spider-Man cannot exceed lightspeed. This is a faulty comparision. There are numerous superheroes that could take out all three with ease (i.e. Thor, Iron Man, Magneto, Superman, etc) but, for the reasons above, Spider-Man is not one of them. Spider-Man is capable of dodging numerous attacks due to his Spider-Sense and agility, but he can only keep up the pace for so long. Eventually Spider-Man would get sloppy and get tagged. This all that these three battle veterans need to take out Spider-Man

It wasn't a faulty comparison, considering it wasn't a comparison to begin with. I by no means was trying to compare Spiderman with Flash. I know that Flash should be able to take out Spidy in less than a second. I know he can take untold number of Spidy's out. My point was just to put things back into perspective after you tried to make their training resume appear intimidating. Spiderman can only keep up the pace for so long? What's stopping him of dispatching them quickly? Why can't he run circles around them while he snags one of them with a web and throws him 30ft away?

To Matches-Malone,

Original Post

What's stopping him of dispatching them quickly? Why can't he run circles around them while he snags one of them with a web and throws him 30ft away?

What's to stop Captain America from administering a nerve strike to Spider-Man? The fact is that Spider-Man's outnumbered, outgunned, and outskilled. No amount of webbing is going to save him. Captain America and his companions already knows his moves. They know how he'll attack and defend himself. Daredevil has the most experience of beating Spider-Man. He already knows his weaknesses. And how exactly is Spider-Man going to defeat any of them? Any blow from Spider-Man will be parried by Captain America (i.e. if he can parry blows from Quicksilver he can parry Spidey's), any blow to Wolverine will result in a broken appendage after hitting his adamantium skeleton. Wolverine can heal from any attack. Daredevil can beat Spider-Man the same way he has dozens of times. They're not stupid. Noway are they going to let his webbing get anywhere near them.

Originally posted by Draco69
To Matches-Malone,

Original Post

What's stopping him of dispatching them quickly? Why can't he run circles around them while he snags one of them with a web and throws him 30ft away?

What's to stop Captain America from administering a nerve strike to Spider-Man? The fact is that Spider-Man's outnumbered, out gunned, and out skilled. No amount of webbing is going to save him. Captain America and his companions already knows his moves. They know how he'll attack and defend himself. Daredevil has the most experience of beating Spider-Man. He already knows his weaknesses. And how exactly is Spider-Man going to defeat any of them? Any blow from Spider-Man will be parried by Captain America (i.e. if he can parry blows from Quicksilver he can parry Spidey's), any blow to Wolverine will result in a broken appendage after hitting his adamantium skeleton. Wolverine can heal from any attack. Daredevil can beat Spider-Man the same way he has dozens of times. They're not stupid. Noway are they going to let his webbing get anywhere near them.

How should Captain America make any type of nerve hit on a man who is GROSSLY faster than him and has a warning sense? Spiderman is outnumbered, out gunned, and out skilled. He still wins, as many superheroes would. It doesn't matter if they all know his style. They are too slow to hit him. Spiderman man will hit them. One direct hit will finish any of them, except Wolverine. Nobody should be able to hit somebody at least 15 times faster. 15 times faster. That means that it would take 15 of the slower character to equal the speed of the faster character. The speed is deadly enough without the warning sense. Captain America parry Quicksilver's blows? I hope you mean a single blow. Not multiple blows. If he dodged multiple blows, I would like evidence please. By the way, Daredevil has not beat Spiderman several times.

Originally posted by MatchesMalone
How should Captain America make any type of nerve hit on a man who is GROSSLY faster than him and has a warning sense? Spiderman is outnumbered, out gunned, and out skilled. He still wins, as many superheroes would. It doesn't matter if they all know his style. They are too slow to hit him. Spiderman man will hit them. One direct hit will finish any of them, except Wolverine. Nobody should be able to hit somebody at least 15 times faster. 15 times faster. That means that it would take 15 of the slower character to equal the speed of the faster character. The speed is deadly enough without the warning sense. Captain America parry Quicksilver's blows? I hope you mean a single blow. Not multiple blows. If he dodged multiple blows, I would like evidence please. By the way, Daredevil has not beat Spiderman several times.

Ignore where I quoted myself. I meant to hit edit, not quote.

Captain America has trained with two speedsters over the course of his lifetime. The Whizzer and Quicksilver. He's beaten them both despite their superior speed. If Captain America can parry the blows of a man capable of reaching the sound of speed, than he can certainly parry Spidey's blows.

You're confusing speed and reflexes. If Spider-Man is 15 times 'faster' than an average man, he would be classified as a speedster. He's not. He has 15 times the reaction time and reflexes than that of a average human being. This coupled with his Spider-Sense makes him remarkable difficult to hit. But not impossible. And to Captain America and the others certainly possible.

Daredevil HAS beaten Spider-Man several times. Ask Cosmic Kramer for the specifics. He's the expert on him.