Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jinzin244 pages

and another claim of spiderman beating the sin six ignoring that he never does unles he uses
help
a weapon
or a plan

examples of times he goes against the sin six unprepared..

him AND hulk fight sin six in a no prep battle.. BOTH get KOed...

Originally posted by Smaxxer

A cement truck is a plot device ? So what do you call 95 % of Batmans victories ?[/B]


wins via plot device.... (I don't see what that has to do with this thread though).... the major difference is that batman carries his plot devices in his utility belt 90% of the time.. it's part of his usual arsenal... spiderman doesn't "carry around" a cement truck the last time I heard.. maybe I'm mistaken, if so please forgive me and correct me in my error...

Originally posted by Smaxxer
I don't expect from you to memorize every single post of me, but I wrote more than once it was crap writing. But if everybody else uses crap writing as examples, I am entirely allowed to do the same.[/B]

dude I suggest you take another look at what I actually said.. I have no problem with you using the feat/example as evidence.. in fact I think you should... but that doesn't change the fact that spiderman needed a damned plot device to beat hulk... in other words he couldn't do it with his bare fists.. period.. in fact he didn't do anything with his bare fists in that fight other than make hulk angry... he needed the cement truck to secure a victory... don't get me wrong.. it's an impressive feat (go spidey) but, not a feat done with bare hands alone... leonidas already posted pics of what happens when spiderman tries that.. his hands end up bloody and broken..

Originally posted by Smaxxer
DD has said himself much more than once - three, four times ? - that he is NO match for Spider-Man. Spider-Man was beaten by DD once because he was fighting stupid, didn't listen to his spider-sense and was too angry to use his brains[/B]

I'm not debating spiderman vs. daredevil here.. i'm making a point.. even though spiderman has all these physical advantages over daredevil, dd is still a pretty decent threat to the web head even when spidey's not holding back... (are you aware dd could kill spiderman with one punch as well?)... there being 2 other veteran and tough fighters on his side tohelp him, put spiderman seemingly stacked against the odds here.. statistically, historically, he can't win more often than not.. you must know that...

Originally posted by Smaxxer
No he hadn't. He tried everything and NOTHING worked.[/B]

wait.. are you seriously about to argue that spiderman has the equivolent of hundreds of tons of weight in his fists.. or more destructive power in them than an explosion that leveled a city block? 🤨

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Whatever. He still has a good chance of winning, he can knock two of the three characters straight into hospital when he wants to.[/B]
not if he wants.. rather.. if he hits them... they can do the same exact thing in return however so that's hardly an advantage....

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Don't twist my words in order to try to score a point. I never said that.[/B]
you're most definitely implying it...

Originally posted by Smaxxer
He hit Spider-Man one time and it was an accident. Spider-Man looks fine to me. [/B]
you must have some very selective reading skills my friend... wolverine's hit him numerous times...

Originally posted by jrodslam
When was this? Can you prove that? Scan or something. Ive never heard of Spiderman beating Daredevil.

Not my fault you don't read that much comics.

A hypnotized and slow attacking Spider-Man who wasn't using his spider-sense once attacked Daredevil. I don't remember the exact details, but Daredevil had to gain time in order for Dr. Strange to pull some magic spell out of his ass.

Anyway, like it was said in the comic, the only thing Daredevil was hoping for, was to survive. Not to beat Spider-Man lol. The still hypnotized Spider-Man kicked him all over the place, and the fight ended in a strange way : Spider-Man was busy drowning Daredevil, and a half panicking Daredevil managed to punch Spider-Man in the face and Dr. Strange showed up and everybody was back happy lol.

METAL read this u just tryed to say captian stronger then wolverine lol u need to re think that statement wolverien far stronger he superhuman levels captain peak.

true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.

Originally posted by wolverine8888
METAL read this u just tryed to say captian stronger then wolverine lol u need to re think that statement wolverien far stronger he superhuman levels captain peak.

true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.


Let's just say he's class one. That means on a good day, he can lift one ton. Nothing more.

I have never seen him lifting an object that weighed more than a ton. Never. Not even once.

I have seen him left more then a ton. hell he beats the shit out of a class 75 to 100 ton character on a regular baises. no he higher then a class one he at least 2ton if not more. my prove states he can be no less then 2 ton character

Originally posted by wolverine8888
I have seen him left more then a ton.

When ?
hell he beats the shit out of a class 75 to 100 ton character on a regular baises.

On a regular basis ? 😕

he lifted a huge picked wall to get some little boy out of a fire. there I only a few times u see wolverien lift objects not because he can't he just has no need for it. u must look at his fights to see his strengths. rough-house gets his ass kciked by wolverine all the time and wolverien only uses his fists. wolverine has stated if he used any were near his full strength on a normal human the hit would nock there heads off. he had 20 ninja dead body on him and he was still runnign at full speed. he nocked grey hulk back when eh punched him. he slammed thing throu a wall before. so thats only a few of the times

Originally posted by wolverine8888
he lifted a huge picked wall to get some little boy out of a fire.

A huge wall ? A cardboard wall you mean...😉
there I only a few times u see wolverien lift objects not because he can't he just has no need for it.

Oh that must explain it.
u must look at his fights to see his strengths. rough-house gets his ass kciked by wolverine all the time

Roughhouse lol. Everybody crushes Roughhouse.
and wolverien only uses his fists. wolverine has stated if he used any were near his full strength on a normal human the hit would nock there heads off.

That's mainly because of the adamantium in his fists.
he slammed thing throu a wall before.

Really ? I have seen the other way around.

he did it in FF and x-men series. every one crushes rough-house? show soem prove or some thing. a normal human with brass nockles woudl literaly crush there own hand hitting rough-house. wolverine has to be at least 2 tons to hit fought house hard enough to hurt him bullets pounce of the guy.

I stand by what I said.

And can someone please take away the phrases "by the way" and "you clearly don't know anything about wolverine" from wolverine8888's vocabulary. I'm getting really tired of seeing those two phrases in almost every one of his posts.

Wolverine is peak human in strength. As well as agility, speed, reflexes, etc. The only thing he is superhuman in is durability.

You can doubt me, that's fine. I could care less. But I believe that Captain America is, in fact, stronger.

You know what though? All of this doesn't really matter. The Trio aren't fighting each other. They're fighting Spiderman.

And by fighting Spiderman, I mean that Spiderman beats them.

METAL read this u just tryed to say captian stronger then wolverine lol u need to re think that statement wolverien far stronger he superhuman levels captain peak.

true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.
that is fact's so stop saying he peak human abilties when he has super human abilites. I stated sources that are a official u can not say what is offical is wrong. METAL U ARE WRONG

I read that just fine, thanks. I'm not blind and/or illiterate. Though one could easily become so trying to read your posts. I'm really not joking.

Here, I can do it, too. Watch.

Ahem.

WOLVERINE888 U R WRONG

Metalmanx you are usually pretty spot on with your stuff , but you must be a bit off your game or something today...spidey cant handle Cap and Logan together much less throwing in DD.
Everyone is saying how fast spiderman is, but what you are failing to realise that spiderman only seems fast , because of his superior reaction time due to spidersense...his punches arent super fast...nor is his body motion. As a matter of fact I would surmise that his punches are not the fastest of the group. Here is why, its true that strength is needed to make a punch quickly, but that only takes it to a certain point, after that its all about technique, and that is not the kinda thing you pick up without formal training. I am sorry but fighting ability is WAY WAY more important than strength in this battle. Spiderman fights in an unorganized and untrained manner, and falls into many of the same tactics other untrained but talented fighters do. All three of his opponents are master hand to hand combatants that know the capabilites of the wall crawler. The only thing they outclass spiderman at all is the most important thing....skill.

* IMO, Spidey really is strong, as explained by Stan Lee himself, Spidey's strength is proportionate that of a spider, meaning Spidey acquires a strength of an arachnid according to his size, human size. Spidey's speed and reflexes are manifested from his extreme agility, he got high amount of flexibility. plus he got this spider-sense to help him anticipate seconds before from harm.

* however, topic-wise: all three (Cap, DD & Logan) are against only one Spidey, sorry Spidey loses this one. know what topic is more fair? how about Cap, DD & Logan versus 3 Spidey's (ex: Spidey, Scarlet Spider & Spidey 2099)...

scarlet and 2099 alone would be too much for them..

Originally posted by LGodamus
Metalmanx you are usually pretty spot on with your stuff , but you must be a bit off your game or something today...spidey cant handle Cap and Logan together much less throwing in DD.
Everyone is saying how fast spiderman is, but what you are failing to realise that spiderman only seems fast , because of his superior reaction time due to spidersense...his punches arent super fast...nor is his body motion. As a matter of fact I would surmise that his punches are not the fastest of the group. Here is why, its true that strength is needed to make a punch quickly, but that only takes it to a certain point, after that its all about technique, and that is not the kinda thing you pick up without formal training. I am sorry but fighting ability is WAY WAY more important than strength in this battle. Spiderman fights in an unorganized and untrained manner, and falls into many of the same tactics other untrained but talented fighters do. All three of his opponents are master hand to hand combatants that know the capabilites of the wall crawler. The only thing they outclass spiderman at all is the most important thing....skill.

No, Spiderman really is that fast.

You're saying it doesn't take strength to make your punch fast?

Then why are Hulk's punches so powerful? Because his speed in which he throws them. You can be as strong as you want, but if you don't use that strength in the process of throwing a punch, you'll get nowhere. His strength has everything to do with how fast his punches are. He has no formal training in the slightest.

Hulk=brawler.

Yet because of his strength, his punches move super fast. Which, if you understand physics at all, leads to the power of the punch.

Spiderman's strength is the major factor in the speed of his punches. Yes, with formal training he would be even faster. But he doesn't need it with the excessive amount of strength he has compared to the Trio.

So, I continue to stand by my previous statements. Spiderman beats the Trio.

Originally posted by LGodamus
Everyone is saying how fast spiderman is, but what you are failing to realise that spiderman only seems fast , because of his superior reaction time due to spidersense...his punches arent super fast...nor is his body motion

Wrong. Spider-Man IS superhuman fast, don't argue about it. And he certainly is faster than his three opponents (who are also pretty fast).

Originally posted by Smaxxer
Wrong. Spider-Man IS superhuman fast, don't argue about it. And he certainly is faster than his three opponents (who are also pretty fast).

Exactly.

I love how metal simply ignors proof it is so funny. HOW AM I WRONG. this are offical marvel books each one stating wolevrien is superhuman levels. just ebcause u don't like it does not mean it is not true

METAL read this u just tryed to say captian stronger then wolverine lol u need to re think that statement wolverien far stronger he superhuman levels captain peak.

true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.
that is fact's so stop saying he peak human abilties when he has super human abilites. I stated sources that are a official u can not say what is offical is wrong. METAL U ARE WRONG SO VERY WRONG

WOLVERINE TAKES THIS HIM SELF BY THE WAY