Originally posted by wolverine8888You're correct and have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the comics regularly contradict each other. Character biographies change very little and Wolverines current one supports the images I displayed. Period.
to abd thats wolverine from like 5 years a go. in comic time it was about 30 to 50 years a go. I seen wolverine take far worse then that and laugh it off
Originally posted by The MISTERTo bad the way that Wolverine has been portrayed for years now contradicts his "current" bio. . .
You're correct and have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that the comics regularly contradict each other. Character biographies change very little and Wolverines current one supports the images I displayed. Period.
Most Bios are just copy overs from the previous one with little to no update.
So both those images and his "current" bio have not been updated in some time.
Those pictures that MISTER posted... That looks around right after the time Psi-Borg mucked his mind a bit and was then looking for "Terry Adams." I don't know. Despite him not really fighting back there, he did deal with the Russians? rather well when he reached the hidden base (Terry Adams) - moving so fast that he disarmed a slew of soldiers without them realizing it.
Note to Wolveirne readers: does anyone know whatever happened to Epsilon Red's daughter after that event? She said she was going to go after Sabertooth, but I never saw her mentioned ever again.
Originally posted by Smaxxer
DD has said himself much more than once - three, four times ? - that he is NO match for Spider-Man. Spider-Man was beaten by DD once because he was fighting stupid, didn't listen to his spider-sense and was too angry to use his brains.
In the fight where DD knocked out Spiderman, he was listening to his senses. He was just reacting late because he wasnt focused 100%. Also, Daredevil never stated that he was no match in the fight. He did say to himself while pounding on Spiderman...."But I cant let up. If I GIVE him the slightest chance, he'll wipe the floor with me." And DD continued to pound his ass.
Originally posted by Smaxxer
Another time they fought, Spider-Man didn't use his spider-sense either, but he beat the living crap out of DD.
When was this? Can you prove that? Scan or something. Ive never heard of Spiderman beating Daredevil.
Originally posted by CreshoskYou're right....It's just too bad.
To bad the way that Wolverine has been portrayed for years now contradicts his "current" bio. . .Most Bios are just copy overs from the previous one with little to no update.
So both those images and his "current" bio have not been updated in some time.
I'm sorry but I just prefer the things that don't flip flop but remain consistent. Facts that are used as evidence usually tend to and I consider the bios as facts because they tend to as well. Sorry that we disagree.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly that dudes a fool and has not read wolverine current bio from wolverines hand book 2004 but I aint to surpized he has not. still yes even the bio in 2004 is off but it much diffrent then the bio he talken about
Your insult means nothing to me as I remember you stating that wolverine could lift tons.
If I cared about what you thought , then I would truly be a fool. I won't ignore you but I care nothing about your opinion of me.
My opinion of you is also unimportant.
My opinion of your post? WEAK.😮💨
true I should not of called u a fool. but u clearly don't know to much about wolverine. (offical marvel role playing game) read the stats they are offical wolverine strength is stated to be at least 2 ton -10 tons thats what a strength 4 has between 2 tons and 10 tons. (marvel vs dc) states agility,reflex,strength,durability,stamina are all at superhuman level.. (wolverine hand book 2004) states wolverines strength at level 4 which is super human. (hulks ultimate official guide) states wolverine has super human strength.
Originally posted by cheldon
strength and durability is not the same. wolverine has alot of durability, but not alot of strength. his durability is accurate. where did you get their bios? ever heard of updates?yeah ok, wolverine and the rest are nowhere near his strength level individually. but i've heard of rare humans that can pull semi trucks. wolverine and cap are past that level. and after weapon x, wolverine gained 33% more muscle mass than he already had with the help of formulas from the scientists, enchancing his strength even more(along with speed, endurance and durability). plus with the adamantium, his hits are even harder. im sure he holds back on some of his punches.
regular humans have killed people with a couple hard punches. logan could probably cave in a skull. karate guys can punch through 2 feet of concrete. with all the enchancements wolverine can probably do 10 feet. spiderman can punch him, but his hands would break or at least get very swollen. his muscle alone feels like a rock. webbing attacks never workeither. he gets out quickly every time.
captain america has the same enchancements minus the adamantium. thats a lot of strength from just two of them. and daredevil has human strength and let me just clarify again how strong a human is:
there is a senior named Sam King who goes to my high school. he can lift 1,035 pounds on the dead lift. think of what daredevil could do.it's too much for spiderman. two of them could distract his spiderman while the other KO's him (im sure you realize that spiderman does not have as high in durability than in strength. if it were'nt for his agility, he would have died a long time ago.
ever read this MISTER? it was a comeback from one of your bias remarks.
<<When was this? Can you prove that? Scan or something. Ive never heard of Spiderman beating Daredevil.>>
actually, spidey beat him up BADLY in one of their encounters. if i can find the scans, i'll post 'em. and dd HAS said -- repeatedly -- he is no match for spidey. i'm almost positive i showed these scans before somewhere . . . again, if i can scrape 'em up, i'll scan them.
Originally posted by cheldonYes I read it and liked it though I don't know why you call me biased. I really don't care.
ever read this MISTER? it was a comeback from one of your bias remarks.
I responded in one earlier sentence.
Strength does equal durabilty for bullets bounce off the hulks chest... A chest made of nothing but flesh.
All human feats of strength are miniscule compared to spider-mans slightest efforts.
I didn't see a new point made but it wasn't a biased post.
Originally posted by The MISTER
Yes I read it and liked it though I don't know why you call me biased. I really don't care.I responded in one earlier sentence.
Strength does equal durabilty for bullets bounce off the hulks chest... A chest made of nothing but flesh.
All human feats of strength are miniscule compared to spider-mans slightest efforts.
I didn't see a new point made but it wasn't a biased post.
i called you biased because you don't think they have any remote chance just because they're not as strong. strength is not everything. wolverine is not the strongest, but his healing ability and overall physique gives him more durability than spiderman(who is stronger).
Originally posted by cheldon
i called you biased because you don't think they have any remote chance just because they're not as strong. strength is not everything. wolverine is not the strongest, but his healing ability and overall physique gives him more durability than spiderman(who is stronger).
To be totally honest I think this would be a fun fight to see in the comics but without the holding back of the comics I believe that Spidey holds the odds in his favor, but not if he holds back. If he were to hold back then the odds would be against him.
I'm a lobo fan so I have an idea of what unpulled punches can REALLY do.
And these guy's do hold more than a remote chance but not the favor of the odds IMO.
Originally posted by The MISTER
To be totally honest I think this would be a fun fight to see in the comics but without the holding back of the comics I believe that Spidey holds the odds in his favor, but not if he holds back. If he were to hold back then the odds would be against him.I'm a lobo fan so I have an idea of what unpulled punches can REALLY do.
And these guy's do hold more than a remote chance but not the favor of the odds IMO.
i understand where your coming from.
Originally posted by Spiderninja008
You're right about capn, but I don't think there is much he could do ta spidy, he just isn't strong enough to take him out.
um the same captain america that hurt thor with his shield? yeah he isnt strong enough to hurt spidey cause peter parker is waaaay more durable than thor...sure thing
Out of the Trio, Captain America is physically the strongest. Then Wolverine. And finally Daredevil.
Agility goes to Daredevil. Then Captain America. Then Wolverine.
Durability goes to Wolverine. Then Cap. Then DD.
Fighting skill...hm...I'm going with Cap on this one. Then DD. Then Wolvie.
Tacticianal skills goes to Cap. Then DD. Then Wolvie.
I swear I'm gonna get attacked for putting Wolverine last in this Trio. But I could care less really.
Anyway. Spiderman outshines all of these guys put together except for the healing factor-based durability and the actual fighting skills.
The fighting skills he EASILY makes up for with his sheer power and precision.
The durability he makes up for with his ability to dodge virtually every attack these guys throw at him. He's dodged MUCH FASTER before. There's no reason these three should suddenly become faster all of a sudden.
Spidey takes out the Sinister Six, yet these guys can beat him? Don't get wrong, I have MAD respect for all three of them. But the Sinister Six would wipe the floor against this Trio.
Anyway. What I'm trying to get at is that Spiderman will eventually win this fight. After an extremely epic battle.