Originally posted by The MISTERagreed...
Mad props on a good post but I prefer bios because they don't leave so much up in the air like comics do. Comics can be interpereted differently based on the individual readers. True character bios do not use a grid, they specifically define the characters abilities and history. The comics do contradict the bios but nowhere near as often as many people imply. This usually happens the most with characters that are defined as possesing no physical superhuman powers. regularly they are shown doing superhuman feats and surviving superhuman levels of damage. Doesn't mean that I just accept whatever I'm given though.Wolverine has been shown to be on all sorts of different levels in the comics. I really don't care because many depections of many characters contradict themselves. I can't really say that I've read contradictory character bios though I have seen grids that are vague and misleading. I was trying to see with my last post if there was any real way that the trio holds the odds.....
In my non-biased opinion (seriously) I don't see the trio as the formidable force that some people see them as. Wolverine can't negate the webbing and neither can the others for they're all far too weak. I'm not making this up cause I've been reading comics and researching characters since I was a kid. The three are also far slower and lack the manueverabilty of Spider-man. If strength doesn't equal durability then why is the Hulk so tough? Cap and DD don't have access to the durabilty that superhuman strength gives nor the speed that it augments.
The odds aren't in their favor at all according to the definitions of the characters. If you want to go by the comics then they stalemate once they realize that they're all good guys.
I have enjoyed this particular thread though so mad props to all the supporters of each side. 😮💨
ecpt for the first fight wolverine has hit him more times in all the others. In there first fight the only reason he hit wolverine is because wolverine allowed him to the same way he allowed wolverine to tackle him. wolverien can and has shown he quite easily can hit spiderman. one hit from wolveriens claws spiderman is done.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Man...you are such a broken record. It's not cute anymore, seriously.We've seen the picture. Thanks.
Spiderman has hit him even more times, what's your point?
it only takes one hit from wolvie to put spiderman down... while EVERYTHING spiderman's got doesn't do jack in return.. I think that's probably the point...
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't quite think you're following along.. spiderman would not have won without a plot device..
... if you think spiderman can render hulk unconcious with his bare hands, you are quite beyond the help of the members of this board...
he wasn't holding back on wolverine.. he's proven not to hold back on daredevil on two occasion..
both occasions he didn't beat daredevil.. and on one of those occasion DD knocked his ass out cold...
Another time they fought, Spider-Man didn't use his spider-sense either, but he beat the living crap out of DD.
ummm yes.. yes I will cause I've read the damned book..
what is important however is that spiderman had an ENORMOUS amount of help from both MULITPLE plot devices and a huge amount of CIS on firelord's behalf...
again.. if you are truly trying to argue that spidey can win that fight with his fists alone you are far beyond our hellp here..
yes brute strength is EVERYTHING in a fight..
fact:wolverine's only ever hit a true berserker rage about several times in the comics... if he does so in this fight, spiderman dies, simple as is...
Well iv finbaly been able to get a hold of Wolverine vs Spider-man story and frankly I'm not impressed.
Every1 in this forum seems to be going on about how well wolverine did, I think he managed to hit spider-man twice, and 1 of those hits was because spider-man let him,
And baring in mind Spidey was scared stiff of wolvy fighting badly and all sorts, and still he was going toe to toe with him.
Hell Spider-man could have snapped wolverines neck if he wanted, and i know your going to say well wolvy could have popped those claws in his face, but if you notice Spider-man had his hands around wolverines neck for 2 panels before wolvine got his hand in position so he could have snapped his neck easy if he was a killer.
the only think wolverine could do in that fight realy was take a good punch, and that isnt going to win a fight.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well iv finbaly been able to get a hold of Wolverine vs Spider-man story and frankly I'm not impressed.Every1 in this forum seems to be going on about how well wolverine did, I think he managed to hit spider-man twice, and 1 of those hits was because spider-man let him,
And baring in mind Spidey was scared stiff of wolvy fighting badly and all sorts, and still he was going toe to toe with him.
Hell Spider-man could have snapped wolverines neck if he wanted, and i know your going to say well wolvy could have popped those claws in his face, but if you notice Spider-man had his hands around wolverines neck for 2 panels before wolvine got his hand in position so he could have snapped his neck easy if he was a killer.
the only think wolverine could do in that fight realy was take a good punch, and that isnt going to win a fight.
Originally posted by SmaxxerProving your lack of knowledge of Wolverine again eh?
Don't have to break adamantium to break his neck.
You sure as hell do have to.
Originally posted by SmaxxerNo, just that he was lieing to Spiderman to spare his ego.
Yeah sure, next thing you are trying to say, is that with each lie, his adamantium nose grows longer.
When Wolverine smiled and said "here it comes" he decided not to Kill spiderman.
Notice how when he said "here it comes" his claws were up? And then suddenly the fist is hitting his face?
And how when Spiderman let Wolverine tackle him Wolverine did so with his claws in? And then the punch to the face was also claws in?
Also Spiderman would have had to have broken adamantium to dislodge the individual vertebrae enough to allow his head to twist enough to break the spinal cord.
Of course the vertabrae seem to be held to gether, like the rest of his bones, in such a way that they are protected by the adamantium.
As anything that Spiderman could break of Wolverine, would be able to be burned or cut with a Katana, both of which failed to seperate Wolverine's bones on multiple ocassions.
by the way when wolverine had bone claws his neck was broken on man occassions and was fine in seconds. SParkz about the whole spdierman had wolverines neck for to panels btu wolverine did not have his claws there u are wrong. spidermans head was in the way of his fist and as so as they showed lower on spidermans body u saw wolverines fist means wolverine fist was there the whole time. by the way u can't break wolverine neck when he has adamatium bones. his bone structure is all attached.
Originally posted by Smaxxer
I like the word "seem" in your sentence. Got any hard proof of that ?
Originally posted by Creshosk
The thing is, this isn't true, not for Wolverine. In Wolverine: Snikt! his right arm was burned so badly only his adamantium bones remained; guess what? They were still linked together. Wolverine was still able to use his arm (even though he had to hold it with his left hand). If there is cartilage between his bones that can be severed, than it can also be burned away, and obviously thats not the case.What about New X-Men, E is for Extinction? Nova burned off all the flesh on his right arm, and guess what? the arm bones were still linked together. They didn't collapse or fall off, which is what they would have done had there been connecting ligaments and cartilage.
How about Miller's Wolverine? When Shingen and Logan fight, Shingen aims a sword stroke at Logans' neck; I've been informed that it was later explained (whether by Miller or Claremont, I don't know) that it was an attack that was meant to sever Wolverine's head, by cutting inbetween the connecting bones; but since Wolverine's adamantium reinforces and links those bones, it couldn't cut through.
And lets not forget Blood Hungry.
As well as each time he fights a brick and his head isn't taken off.