Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey's faster than DD and stronger and even a lousy punch from a guy that pics up subway cars and can catch bullets now could be enough to break something that could greatly reduce his effectiveness

DD has taken punches from a guy who can picks up oil tankers and catches missiles. True Spiderman can land a blow that breaks something and reduce DD's effectiveness. But Daredevil can also land a blow that paralizes Spiderman and render him ineffective period.

Originally posted by brainchild81
DD ain't wearing nobody down. He's got the worse stamina out of the whole bunch.

Thats not saying much. DD can fight for extended periods of time before tireing. This isnt DD vs Spidey. Meaning he doesnt have to exert as much energy as he would if he were to fight Spiderman alone.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Don't think he was trying to say that. It's a lil bit of both. Why are talking about this? All Spidey's powers work here.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Because originally Sam was making it out that Spiderman had his spidersesne seperate from Spiderman's enhanced reaction time. When his enhanced reation time IS his spidersense. And venom was brought in to show that he doesn't have as easy a time dodging when his sense isn't working properly.

Spidey's enhanced reaction time is quite seperate from his spidersense, Cresh. I was sure you would know this. He's already got insane reflexes, and of course the spider sense just enhances them even more.

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey's enhanced reaction time is quite seperate from his spidersense.

Can you prove that?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Can you prove that?

Can you prove me wrong?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Can you prove me wrong?

Quote Creshosk - "As Venom shows Spiderman's reaction time isn't all that hot without his spidersense. His "reaction time" is due to his spidersense, he does have better reflexes and agility to help him dodge, after he is reacting due to spidersense."

The prof is in the comics.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey's enhanced reaction time is quite seperate from his spidersense.

Now can you prove that?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Can you prove me wrong?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Quote Creshosk - "As Venom shows Spiderman's reaction time isn't all that hot without his spidersense. His "reaction time" is due to his spidersense, he does have better reflexes and agility to help him dodge, after he is reacting due to spidersense."

The prof is in the comics.

Did it ever occur to you that Venom is QUITE possibly as faster or faster than Spiderman?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Did it ever occur to you that Venom is QUITE possibly as faster or faster than Spiderman?

Did it ever occur to you that the reason Venom is possibly faster is because Spiderman doesnt have his spidey-sense to react with enough speed to evade Venom?

Although i hate bringing up bios and stats, if you notice Spidermans speed is listed as a 3 while Venoms is listed as a 2.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's not the way bnurden of proof works. You're making a claim, You were challenged to prove your claim, it's not up to your opposition to do your legwork for you. You want to prove that his Spidersense is seperate from reaction time then you prove your claim.

How about that time when Spidey caught those two bullets in his hands (I know that one actually went through, but you get my point) chasing him? I doubt there was any need for spider sense there, knowing full well of the danger and plus the fact that he could see them easily and faced them dead on. To me, that was a pure example of his superhuman reflexes at work.

Because, if he had been using his spider sense to direct him, he would've seen that his perceived trajectory was off, which is why one of the bullets went through his hand.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
How about that time when Spidey caught those two bullets in his hands (I know that one actually went through, but you get my point) chasing him? I doubt there was any need for spider sense there, knowing full well of the danger and plus the fact that he could see them easily and faced them dead on. To me, that was a pure example of his superhuman reflexes at work.

Because, if he had been using his spider sense to direct him, he would've seen that his perceived trajectory was off, which is why one of the bullets went through his hand.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So that was another case of him turning his spidersense off? 🙄 Funny how he does that whenever its important to you proving the point. Of course you'd still have to prove that he wasn't using his spidersense during that moment. Because of course his spidersense doesn't show exactly what the future holds, just where how bad and how far away the danger is. . . he does after all use his spider sense to dodge the aim of the gun, thuusly dodging the bullets in the first place, who's to say that he wasn't using his spidersense in a different but similar manner to catch the bullets?

Hey, he very well could've been. It appears to me that it's open to interpretation.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Shit! Wearing Spidey down is alot easier said than done though. How long did he fight Morlun for(I think Morlun was also sapping Spidey's strength)? When an angry Spidey beat the hell outta Tracer, he'd been fighting gangs(There was a large bounty on his head) for days w/out sleep. When he was done kicking Tracer's a$$ he went home, not to sleep, but to get another mask so he could go back out and beat more MFers up! Spidey's faster than DD and stronger and even a lousy punch from a guy that pics up subway cars and can catch bullets now could be enough to break something that could greatly reduce his effectiveness also, (Spidey finished off Man Mountain Marko with a lousy punch & Spidey had a cold that day) Spidey could easily use those webs up close instead of punching. If he grabs DD (or Cap) he's crushing whatever he touches. DD ain't wearing nobody down. He's got the worse stamina out of the whole bunch. Spidey's a multitasking dude and honestly the fastest out of the trio still ain't fast as Spidey is.

spidey doesn't have to be staight out exhausted.... just a slight bit off his game... if he is.. he's already dead where logan is concerned..

He has the enhanced speed of a spider. It says this all the time. He's faster then normal people. The fact that you are argueing this bogles the mind.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
He has the enhanced speed of a spider. It says this all the time. He's faster then normal people. The fact that you are argueing this bogles the mind.

The reaction time is due to the spidersense. . .

You know the SPIDERsense that gives him the the SPIDER reaction time. . .

Though personally I've never encountered a Spider that had any such sense. . they all wind up getting squished under a tissure paper that I slowly put on top of them. . .

Ya know? Let's just assume your right. I can't argue this anymore.

ANYway, Spiderman is faster, and stronger then DD. His Spider sence, though sometimes not as good as DD's enhansed sences, are basicly equal.

He's a better fighter.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Ya know? Let's just assume your right. I can't argue this anymore.

ANYway, Spiderman is faster, and stronger then DD. His Spider sence, though sometimes not as good as DD's enhansed sences, are basicly equal.

He's a better fighter.

Super Smash Bros is pure ownage.