Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jrodslam244 pages

That time DD had to confuse the spidey-sense to get the first hit in. After that he kept hitting him and hittinh him till he ko'd Spidey. Other times DD just hits him minus the sense confusion. Spidey has more of a chance of missing with the webbing than he does not missing. Plus if he clims a few stories, why would the trio chase him? Woujldnt that be battle field removal? The only one that would probably chase is Wolvie. As much as he respects Cap and DD, theres a chance that he might not follow. Spidey just doesnt have much going in his favor here.

I agree that in comics the fights would be pretty close, but with this being bloodlusted (the thread starter said that everyone would do whatever they needed to do to win, I assume that means bloodlusted) and with at least two of the trio having only human durability, Spidey could easily take them out. A class 15 or so punch to the head would be enough to kill both Cap and DD or a web attack would be enough to trap them. Wolverine would be harder but could be disabled.

The advantage of web swinging would be that Spidey could either retreat to a safe area if he feels he is getting over whelmed or it could be a platform where he could lauch ranged attacks.

See the thing with this is that everyone in this fight is bloddlusted. 9/10, a bloodlusted Spidey isnt fighting smart. Even if he is, hed NEVER be able to hit Daredevil hard enough to ko him. Same with Wolverine sad to say. On the other hand, if Spidey were stabbed in the heart or throat, hed most likely die. If truly bloodlusted, DD can kill Spidey with a touch. Daredevil can sense every muscle before it moves by listening to the heart. Thats why hed be able to dodge spidey so well. Wolverine can just take the pounding and Cap if reacts in time has his shield and can take the pounding as well.

And even DD says that Spidey moves faster than most people think and he can barely keep up even with is radar sense. He knew this punch was comming and still couldn't dodge it. All it would take is just one of these to take him and Cap out of the fight. DD is good, but even he admits Spidey is better.

from Digi's Spiderman respect thread

And of course Spidey usually holds back when fighting, a pissed off Spiderman is pretty scary:

You also have to remember that in the fight, Daredevil wasnt fighting back at all. Plus Spidey still couldnt ko him.

Here Spidey stated that no matter how fast he is, he still cant land a good solid hit on DD.

Originally posted by TheKahn
And of course Spidey usually holds back when fighting, a pissed off Spiderman is pretty scary:

Almost all superheroes hold back when fighting. Thats what makes them the goodguys.

Originally posted by jrodslam
You also have to remember that in the fight, Daredevil wasnt fighting back at all. Plus Spidey still couldnt ko him.

Here Spidey stated that no matter how fast he is, he still cant land a good solid hit on DD.

Did you even read the scans you posted? 🤨

In the first one DD says:
"My one advantage is that Spiderman's brain is clouded by hypnosis so he's not operating at peak efficiency. Under normal circumstances I'd never be able to out-fight him"

And in the last panel on the third pic DD says:
"Mathew, my boy, you put up a good fight but that web-slinging wonder is just too much for strong. I have to rest for a few seconds even if that means letting him land another punch"

DD does manage to get a kick in but says at least THREE times that Spiderman is out of his league!

Originally posted by TheKahn
Did you even read the scans you posted? 🤨

In the first one DD says:
"My one advantage is that Spiderman's brain is clouded by hypnosis so he's [b]not
operating at peak efficiency. Under normal circumstances I'd never be able to out-fight him"

And in the last panel on the third pic DD says:
"Mathew, my boy, you put up a good fight but that web-slinging wonder is just too much for strong. I have to rest for a few seconds even if that means letting him land another punch"

DD does manage to get a kick in but says at least THREE times that Spiderman is out of his league! [/B]

Did you read ALL of the scans?

Yea in the first one DD says that, but he also said that hed be able to out-THINK him. You post a scan of Spidey getting one punch, but dont show the rest of the fight. Thats how DD always does sdo well vs Spidey by using his brain.

And yes, in the third panel, he says "LET" Spidey land another punch. And when Spidey did, it STILL didnt ko DD. Spidey was unable to land efficiant hits oin DD until DD allowed it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Did you read ALL of the scans?

Yea in the first one DD says that, but he also said that hed be able to out-THINK him. You post a scan of Spidey getting one punch, but dont show the rest of the fight. Thats how DD always does sdo well vs Spidey by using his brain.

And yes, in the third panel, he says "LET" Spidey land another punch. And when Spidey did, it STILL didnt ko DD. Spidey was unable to land efficiant hits oin DD until DD allowed it.

The reason I only posted that one scan is because that is all that there was in the Spidey respect thread. If the rest of the fight was there I would have posted it.

As for the first scan, of course DD is going to have to out think him as he can't outfight Spidey. Also Spidey is seeing crap that isn't really there! So I don't think it's really its a credit for DD to be able to "out-think" a guy who is delusional.

In the third panel of course Spidey isn't trying to kill DD (which common sense will tell you that as an approximately 15 ton level character he certainly could kill a normal human in one punch). Spidey isn't a killer and I doubt he would even punch hard enough to cause brain damage or to knock people out. DD can say he was going to "let" spidey hit him but he didn't really have a choice. He said he "had to rest". He was out of breath and couldn't keep on fighting.

Also DD was "rolling" with the punches and Spidey hadn't landed a solid punch yet.

The fact remains that DD has stated on panel that Spiderman is better than him. ✅

Is that symbiote Spidey with enhanced abilities? Either way, its not like hes never been hit before. Spidey would have just as hard a time with hitting them. At least not hard enough to ko one of them.

The symbiote costume in the COMICS didnt enhance his abilities!!!

He just had unlimited webbing, stealth ability and cloth changing.

No strength,speed or humor upgrade.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The reason I only posted that one scan is because that is all that there was in the Spidey respect thread. If the rest of the fight was there I would have posted it.

Ok so it showed Spidey getting a hit on DD who wasnt fighting back and still unable to ko him.

Originally posted by TheKahn
As for the first scan, of course DD is going to have to out think him as he can't outfight Spidey. Also Spidey is seeing crap that isn't really there! So I don't think it's really its a credit for DD to be able to "out-think" a guy who is delusional.

DD is usually always out-thinking Spidey in a fight. He cant outfight him due to stamina. Thats why hes so precise in his battles with Spidey. Also, youre the one who posted the fight. I dont show scans of that fight to credit DD. ONLY when others show it to credit Spidey tagging him saying "DD said he couldnt dodge blah blah!", when its clear DD isnt fighting at regular potential either. Hell, he isnt even fighting.😬

Originally posted by TheKahn
In the third panel of course Spidey isn't trying to kill DD (which common sense will tell you that as an approximately 15 ton level character he certainly could kill a normal human in one punch). Spidey isn't a killer and I doubt he would even punch hard enough to cause brain damage or to knock people out. DD can say he was going to "let" spidey hit him but he didn't really have a choice. He said he "had to rest". He was out of breath and couldn't keep on fighting.

In the whole fight Spidey is pretty angry and not under any mind control at all. Hes actually trying to beat DD up at least to get some answers. DD already owned him prior to that fight, so that time Spidey was out for revenge. Who said Spidey was trying to kill DD? Spidey can kill a normal human with a punch IF and ill say again IF he can connect it properly. He CANT do that with DD. You doubt Spidey would punch hard enough to ko someone? He sure was swinging hard enough and fast enough and still couldnt ko DD. True DD had to rest, but he wasnt that tired to the point where he still couldnt roll with the punch and avoid being ko'd. And thats exactly what he did. And after that, DD was reasy to go at it again.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Also DD was "rolling" with the punches and Spidey hadn't landed a solid punch yet.

Thats my whole point. Spidey is never able to land efficiant enough blows to do serious damage to DD. Its easier for DD to hit Spidey with a death touch, than it is for Spidey to ko or kill DD with a punch. Why? Because Daredevil rolls with punches and dodges them to reduce effectiveness.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The fact remains that DD has stated on panel that Spiderman is better than him. ✅

Thats not saying much. Daredevil is a humble character. He come out on top in battle more than Spidey does. Now thats a fact. ✅

Originally posted by Arahan
The symbiote costume in the COMICS didnt enhance his abilities!!!

He just had unlimited webbing, stealth ability and cloth changing.

No strength,speed or humor upgrade.

🤨? Oh no? I was sure that it did.

Spidey then had a black suit that wasnt the symbiote and that didnt enhance his abilities, but the symbiote did.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The fact remains that DD has stated on panel that Spiderman is better than him. ✅

More than once. And any scan not involving healthy doses of PIS confirms this.

Originally posted by jrodslam
🤨? Oh no? I was sure that it did.

Spidey then had a black suit that wasnt the symbiote and that didnt enhance his abilities, but the symbiote did.

Debatable. There wasn't a noticable increase in attributes when he wore the symbiote. He mostly just liked it because it could change appearence and wouldn't rip like his normal duds. It can be inferred from various comments he makes that he was operating slightly more efficiently, but there really aren't feats to back it up.

There was no increase of his powers.

Originally posted by Blade Cutter
Look Spider-man can win this fight with out even getting close to them I mean he can jump 50 or more feet on a wall and web them.If them try to climb after him he can jump more then 50 feet away if Cap throws his shield there is a better chance SM will ketch it or web it to a wall then it hitting SM.The three can only throw a club and a shield(witch is the only one of the to that can hurt SM)SM can throw cars,bus's,light poles,trucks,trees(if he can find one),a rock or brick moving at are past 300mph.All thees things are a lot harder to dodge for the three then for SM to dodge a club or shield.Tell me this if SM does not even get close to them how will they win.I have lots of ways SM can win by doing this.He can win with out staying back as well but he is smart and it is safer to stay back in-lease until Login is webbed up.
I wrote this so long ago but my argument still stands.I mean what the hell is Logan go to do when he gets a car truck are bus slammed right on top of him and he is pinned to the ground how will he get up?If this where to happen to DD are Cap they would be straight knocked out with a hell of a lot of broken bones!Oh and now Spider-man can SHINK!!! back with his upgrade(I don't know why they gave him this power tho).One more thing DD can not keep up with Spider-man's speed!

INDIVIDUALLY, I'D SAY SPIDERMAN COULD BEAT CA AND THATS IT...

This up again? My debut thread? Spiderman should win rather easily by the conditions of the matchup. Especially now.