Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

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Originally posted by jinzin
no he couldn't... they would collectively cream him...

it's just ridiculous somtimes who you're willing to believe spiderman can beat... it's been shown that spidey has enough trouble fighting any one of these guys but he can take all 3 of them? like I said, no way in hell.

Yea. I know what's happened during their encounters. But then I think back to all of Spider-Man's amazing feats that contradict even coming close to losing against these three, one-on-one or united. Or the enemies he's defeated on his own, for that matter.

Could any of the three defeat...?:
-Sandman
-Hydroman
-Doc Ock
-Venom
-Carnage
-Etc.

In my opinion...no, no they cannot. Which, believe it or not, says something about Spidey's skill when he isn't toying around.

Straight up fight, one-on-one, Spidey gets the majority against each of them.

Straight up fight, Spidey vs. the Trio, he still gets the majority, albeit, a very small one. Since I'm sure you read plenty of Spidey comics, you'll know as well as I do that Spidey tends to handle more enemies (even super-powered ones at that) sometimes even more effectively than just one opponent.

This fight would basically turn into Spidey vs. Wolverine. And well, we've already got 700+ pages on that one...

NONE of the characters you just mentioned can spiderman take alone without prep or a plot device... save MAYBE doc ock (classic) 😐

and yes, spiderman does tend to do well against a gaggle of heroes trying to contain him, or a group of misfit villians trying to stop him,

but against 3 veterans like this.. he simply wouldn't... it would almost be similar to his first several encounters with the enforcers... spidey isn't taking the majority against them...

Originally posted by jinzin
it's just ridiculous somtimes who you're willing to believe spiderman can beat...
You really shouldn't be saying this, but I'm going to let this go.

Originally posted by jinzin
iit's been shown that spidey has enough trouble fighting any one of
Thus the only argument, that in a crossover battle he'll always draw, of COURSE they are going to make him have trouble fighting them in a comic, this isn't a comic. Spiderman DEFINITELY has what it takes in his arsneal to take them out, simple. I really haven't heard a reason why he shouldn't, only "they've given him problems alone..." None of them are faster, stronger, or as equipped as Spiderman, especially current. He nails the peaks going all out in THIS match, yes this match that isn't like the one in the comics.

Spider-Man 6/10. He's superior to each of them in terms of physical attributes, has fought against and alongside them all before so he knows how to take them down and I think we all know Spider-Man can handle mutliple enemies more effeciently that single opponents at times. This isn't a curbstop by any means, but Spider-Man nonetheless will be the victor

Kinda what I was saying, can the trio win? Of course, but they are just at a disadvantage, against current Spidey in particular. I just want to hear something besides "well they've given him trouble"...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Kinda what I was saying, can the trio win? Of course, but they are just at a disadvantage, against current Spidey in particular. I just want to hear something besides "well they've given him trouble"...

Exactly. Exactly. Its not impossible. But against Spider-Man chances are he'll take the majority unless someone can come up with a valid reason as to why he can't beat them

Originally posted by marvelprince
Exactly. Exactly. Its not impossible. But against Spider-Man chances are he'll take the majority unless someone can come up with a valid reason as to why he can't beat them
You'll likely hear how the other's are veterans (apparently he isn't) and how he's been "given trouble"... hell Vulture has given Spiderman trouble lol.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You'll likely hear how the other's are veterans (apparently he isn't) and how he's been "given trouble"... hell Vulture has given Spiderman trouble lol.

Exactly. Rocket Racer and Prowler have also given him trouble. Guess he's outmatched.

And that veteran's thing amused me. Spider-Man's been in the game longer than Matt, and was fighting modern day villians while Cap slept on ice. I cede that Logan, with his memories of course still has more experience but Spider-Man is by no means a newbie. Specially when it comes to multiple opponents

Originally posted by marvelprince
Exactly. Rocket Racer and Prowler have also given him trouble. Guess he's outmatched.

And that veteran's thing amused me. Spider-Man's been in the game longer than Matt, and was fighting modern day villians while Cap slept on ice. I cede that Logan, with his memories of course still has more experience but Spider-Man is by no means a newbie. Specially when it comes to multiple opponents

And being a hero overall.

Ahh...it's nice to have support again.

Thank you C-Master and marvelprince. 🤘

I usually try to avoid these old threads again, as they are rehashed and people are too closed-minded and don't take the rules of the forum into mind, or the thread even.

Why is it that when Spidey is put up against people who are stronger more durable and sometimes faster, the arguement that is used is "Spidey has faced and beaten many opponents who are stronger and more durable than him." Yet when it comes to this fight, "Spiderman is physically superior that all three of these opponents and theres not way they beat him." is what comes out? Why is it acceptable when Spidey beats poeple who are physically surerior than him, but it isnt when Cap, DD and Wolvie do it and thus discredited in this battle?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Why is it that when Spidey is put up against people who are stronger more durable and sometimes faster, the arguement that is used is "Spidey has faced and beaten many opponents who are stronger and more durable than him." Yet when it comes to this fight, "Spiderman is physically superior that all three of these opponents and theres not way they beat him." is what comes out? Why is it acceptable when Spidey beats poeple who are physically surerior than him, but it isnt when Cap, DD and Wolvie do it and thus discredited in this battle?
It's actually the contrary actually, Spiderman rarely uses his physical aspects in battle to their fullest extent, preferring a mental appraoch, therefore Spiderman on the forums and Spiderman in the comics is quite different. Especially with CIS out.


..... but he will beat them all at the same time..... 😐.......... 😆

Wow you showed him getting hit in a crossover battle, by your logic Hulk couldn't beat the trio then... 🙄 And we have all established he can take those guys and there are one sided scans that prove against your argument as well, thus the infinite circular argument. Can someone explain how he the trio will win?

Here's him beating someone the trio can't, so much for your little feat war, (since you want to use that).

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Wow you showed him getting hit in a crossover battle, by your logic Hulk couldn't beat the trio then... 🙄 And we have all established he can take those guys and there are one sided scans that prove against your argument as well, thus the infinite circular argument. Can someone explain how he the trio will win?

By my logic Hulk isnt Spider-Man. and of course Hulk would beat the Trio, he would beat them even if they did have Spidey. And just because Spidey might be able to beat all three of them, he will not beat them all at the same time. Because all three guys have shown to give him problems, and are able to hurt Spidey. He will get overwhelmed and beat.

You also admit your version of Spidey didnt exist in the comics. Why? because he isnt able to do the things you keep claiming him to do. The only time we will see Spidey beat all three of them is in a "What If?"

Originally posted by thedude1948
By my logic Hulk isnt Spider-Man. and of course Hulk would beat the Trio, he would beat them even if they did have Spidey.
But they've given Hulk problems, so therefore by your logic they would win right? I mean Wolverine alone has ko'ed him before... so it must be true.

Originally posted by thedude1948
And just because Spidey might be able to beat all three of them, he will not beat them all at the same time.
Because....

Originally posted by thedude1948
Because all three guys have shown to give him problems, and are able to hurt Spidey. He will get overwhelmed and beat.

You mean when he turns invisible and they do nothing? Or very little.

How about if he goes on a high wall and they can do nothing as well?

Or if he webs them with 120,000 lb per meter tensile strength webbing that they can't break free of individually.

Or that he can ko two of them with little effort?

Originally posted by thedude1948
You also admit your version of Spidey didnt exist in the comics. Why? because he isnt able to do the things you keep claiming him to do.
No, you read wrong, I said the comics WON'T portray Spiderman as such against a cash cow because it would upset fanbases, this is a forum, I need not argue him because this isn't a comic book.

P.S The CIS in this match is OFF, he's not holding back or hero worshipping Cap, all of your matches had conditions unlike this match, this is a random match where noone has studied him or anything like that.

Originally posted by thedude1948
The only time we will see Spidey beat all three of them is if they come out with a comic called "What if Spider-Man beat Captain America, Daredevil and Wolverine?".
Not that it has anything to do with this argument, and he won't do that against three cash cows anyways.

Furthermore Comic Spiderman is CIS induced, this one isn't. They don't measure up to him physicaly at all, the only thing you have for your premise is that they gave him trouble in a crossover. They aren't faster, nor stronger, nor more ranged, or better equipped. So the million dollar question that never gets answered is: "how do they win?" If I'm just going to say, "this happened, that happened" then there's no point to the debate in the first place.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But they've given Hulk problems, so therefore by your logic they would win right? I mean Wolverine alone has ko'ed him before... so it must be true.
Spidey, has consistently had problems with these guys (and Street levelers in general) Hulk hasnt.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You mean when he turns invisible and they do nothing? Or very little.

How about if he goes on a high wall and they can do nothing as well?

Or if he webs them with 120,000 lb per meter tensile strength webbing that they can't break free of individually.

Or that he can ko two of them with little effort?

Being invisible is really going to effect Daredevil right? I dont think he is a mute either so he can probably tell the others where he is. And Wolverine can probably "smell" where he is or something. Cap blocks the webs with his shield, Wolverine cuts through them, and Daredevil can sense and dodge them just like he does with bullets, if he can dodge Bullseye he can dodge Spidey's webs... and High walls just dont appear out of nowhere.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, you read wrong, I said the comics WON'T portray Spiderman as such against a cash cow because it would upset fanbases, this is a forum, I need not argue him because this isn't a comic book.

P.S The CIS in this match is OFF, he's not holding back or hero worshipping Cap, all of your matches had conditions unlike this match, this is a random match where noone has studied him or anything like that.

Not that it has anything to do with this argument, and he won't do that against three cash cows anyways.

Furthermore Comic Spiderman is CIS induced, this one isn't. They don't measure up to him physicaly at all, the only thing you have for your premise is that they gave him trouble in a crossover. They aren't faster, nor stronger, nor more ranged, or better equipped. So the million dollar question that never gets answered is: "how do they win?" If I'm just going to say, "this happened, that happened" then there's no point to the debate in the first place.

They can still hurt him... he doesnt have Super-human Durability. The Trio has numbers and skill on him, and somebody is going to get a hit in on him, with a shield, billy club or claw he is going to be hurting... 😬

Wolverine claws madly into the air where Spiderman is standing. Spidey dodges easily with a high back flip... but a billy club comes at his left from daredevil.. so in midair he fires off a web to a nearby building to swing away... as the shield comes and hits him deftly in the face. The end.