Originally posted by Scoobless
yeah i know, i just mean for sprints - considering how much stronger than human and his reflexes and movements so much faster than human, it's not unlikely that he could run 3-4 times top human pace
Still, that's debatable. Although not superstrength, Longshot had incredibly superior reflexes and movements, though it was never indicated his speed abilities. Puma had heightened reflexes and strength, but his mobility was faster strongly when quadraped.
Oh yeah and Spidey is very difficult to see when he's attacking someone..he's been described as a being a "blur" when he pours on the speed and is on the offensive..I remember one instance where the new Thor(Eric Masterson) couldn't see him when Spidey was attacking..he really had Thor reeling...only way he was able to hault the attack was by pulling out mjolnir and whipping up a mystical storm...
One more thing I might add is that I consistantly read about how Cap took a bunch of nazi's...no offense but, who the hell cares? What people keep on forgetting is that cap was trained to go up against "human level" fighters......none of the damb nazis could sense him attacking them, had reflexes that were 30 times that of a normal human, strength that enabled them to lift tanks, and superhuman speed now did they? If they did Cap would've gotten his ass kicked..
a tank these days weighs around 60-70 tons or more spidey can't lift that, not sure how much they weighed back in "the day" but it was probably still at least 30+ tons (although i am completely guessing and wouldn't argue the point if anyone knows better) but apart from that 1 point i agree with dog
yeah but in an alternate reality or whatever spidey got shot by cops and died. At least cap didn't get shot and died.
But another thing to consider is that despite spidermans strength and speed moving that fast for even 30 seconds to a minute will start to take it's toll on spidey's cardio, Considering wolverine's healing abilities all he has to do is LET spiderman hit him while he regains his breath. Spider-man would have to pace himself if he's even going to last 5 minutes in this fight. it's not like he'll be buzzing around sprinting all over the place. Spidermans been hit by DD and wolvie so his reflexes being faster can only help him so much.
his stamina, like his speed, is 40 or more times that of a normal human, he has at times, fought for days on end with little or no rest against enemies like carnage and venom who are both more dangerous than wolverine
as for wolvy letting himself get hit, well it'd take less than a second for him to get webbed against a wall (or whatever was around........ or the ground) and then get a faceful of webbing and i doubt wolverine can survive for an hour without oxygen and even if he could (which he can't) the webs could be re-applied as needed, and yes......... i know his claws can cut the web but that only works if he can move his arms and i don't see any reason spidey would overlook that and no, cap couldn't cut him free as he'd be getting his head handed to him within a minute of that happening.......... (i said all this in more detail about 10 or more pages ago but i know most people only read the most recent postings)
well that's a simple solution or spidey, but not nearly likely Spiderman would have to hope that wolverine had his arms out like a cross him order to pin him down like that, but WTF would wolvie be doing that for?
anyways, I really, really don't understand what is so hard about this, as it was stated when this thread began, anyone of these three in the trio can and has given spiderman a run for his money, hell spidey and wolvie were in a whoever kills 1st wins situation, so in a three on one battle spidey is gonna get rocked.
I am beginning to understand caps frustration with the thread, there is no logical way that spidey could or should win, except for the fall back and go 1on1 meathod. otherwise he's getting his clock cleaned.
doesn't have to have arms outstretched, they can be pinned in any position and the only part of the web he'd be able to cut would be directly in front of his knuckles and with spider-man's web that just doesn't cut it (sorry about the pun) but, yeah, that would be the easy option........ why wouldn't he go for the easy option or the dirty trick IT'S 3 ON 1 he'll do whatever it takes and as he's managed to catch arrows, rockets and a falling satelite (it was the foreigners) in mid flight i see him having absolutely zero trouble tagging any of these three human speeders at any point in this match up
Originally posted by jinzin
yeah but in an alternate reality or whatever spidey got shot by cops and died. At least cap didn't get shot and died.
Nice try though.
I think a lot of peeps on the side of the trio keep on assumming that Spidey would have to face them head on in order to get a win..the problem with this logic is that SM rarely ever faces his enemies head on when engaging in battle..he's always bouncing around..using his agility, speed, reflexes to confuse his opponents...
As I mentioned before in this thread..I don't believe it to be to far fetched for SM to jump and attach himself to a building to avoid the trio's attack....I mean damb..he does stuff like that all the time..
He can jump high enough so that he would be out of their reach, and
at that point he wouldn't really have to do much to subdue them...I'm thinking he would just shoot his webs to them and throw them somewhere...and I know they wouldn't just stand there and be hit, they would obviously dodge the webbing...but they ain't going to dodge it forever.
They would/could not climb up the building quickly enough to subdue him...and it would be foolish of them to try..seeing as how it would leave them very vulnerable to SM's attacks.
So anyway..as I've said like a million times...if the battle takes place outside..Spidey definately has the edge..in my humble opinion...
so by that statement you admit to your own ignorance in this debate..... hmmm ....... didn't think you'd cave so easily
as for mine, i'm familiar with all the characters and there abilities as well as the set statement at the beginning of this thread, so no..... you are the only one here (at present) with any ignorance to admit to
Originally posted by Scoobless
so by that statement you admit to your own ignorance in this debate..... hmmm ....... didn't think you'd cave so easily
as for mine, i'm familiar with all the characters and there abilities as well as the set statement at the beginning of this thread, so no..... you are the only one here (at present) with any ignorance to admit to
And my daddy can beat up your daddy... pokeyargue
I thought I'd check in and see how this thread was doing. Yep... Dumb as ever. I'm out again.