Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Cap beat Batroc in one page. Baron Zemo was taken out with one punch by Cap. His hundreds of soldiers are the ones that Cap has to fight through to get to him. Red Skull has at different times had different levels of power, but Captain America ALWAYS defeats him in the end. Big deal. Spider-Man STILL loses.

Venom is a sybiote and they are very good at hitting and getting into places even Spider-man cant get to so its very easy to believe that Venom has defeated him. But now of days that fight is just boring.

well venom is everything that spidey is, plus a whole lot more, he doesn't have the same intelligence, but then again he doesn't need it.
The reason why spider-man can't bob and weave around venom's attackes is because venom doesn't trigger his spider sense at all, so spiderman is forced to use all his actual knowledge of fighting which i suppose can get pretty rusty when you're able to let a "sense" take care of that for you, so venom beating the crap out of spidey makes all the sense in the world.

Also in regards to the spiderman, wolverine fight........Wolverine had his claws out the entire fight and was swinging away spiderman's speed was the only thing saving him, He can only react so fast for his senses, but for the fight it was sufficent enough to evade wolverine for a bit,
After spidey began to lay into wolverine, putting his head through a tombstone with multiple punches, Wolverine just layed there smiling at spidey, he then rushed spidey and tackled him to the ground (if he was going for the kill he would have just tackled spidey with his claws, but he didn't) he THEN hit spidey in the face with his claws unsheathed. (Now I don't care how much spidey's spidey sense helps him in a fight, he was on the ground and got hit in the face, like I said if wolverine wanted him dead, we wouldn't have the 20 some spiderman titles that are on the shelves today). Despite the earlier comment, this comic book is actually one of the more well written comics to come out of it's era, it stays true to both super heroes in both character and ability, it's a significantly good read, and holds one of the most importants spiderman moments in history with the dath of ned leeds the "original" hob goblin.
I don't think my "IF" statement was deserate in the least, it's just the truth. And no I'm not humiliated except maybe in your sad pathetic little world because I actually know what the hell I'm talking about, I went out and bought the 40 years of amazing spiderman collection and read some 500 and something spiderman comics, i went out and collected all of SPIDER MAN up to the end of the return of the exile, and i have a bunch of spectacular and peter parker, I'm "up to snuff" on all spidey's powers abilities and feats of all sorts, but the bottom line is, despite all the great spiderman comics I own and have read, theres is not thing one that yet convinces me that he would beat this entire team of "Marvel Legends" these guys take on far more dangerous foes than spidey on a regular basis, yes it's true that the same could be said for spiderman but it's three solid, extensive, impressive records versus his one...........Spiderman would have a hard enough time beating any one of these guys, I really, really doubt he'd beat the crap out of this whole team like you guys are suggesting, despite what you think spiderman is no god, he's been beaten by far less impressive foes (shocker for example) and just isn't capable of walking through this super hero gauntlet like the breez,,,,,,he'll fight,,,,,he'll fight valliantly, and he'll lose valliantly.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Actually there are many comic situations where DD wins and Spider-man never has.

the wolvy/spidey crossover story with the fight in the graveyard was not that well written, if it was such a pivitol story then why is the fact that spidey killed charlie never mentioned in any flashbacks? the whole spidey punching wolvy's head into the gravestone and wolvy smiling back was just stupid, almost as stupid as the fact that wolvy caught spidey off guard by "rushing him" i like both these characters but was fairly dissapointed with that story

and there was a fight with daredevil (early one, i don't remember the issue or even title) one of there earlier meetings where DD basically says (thinks in a bubble) that spider-man's extra senses were a match for his own and he'd lose if the fight continued due to stamina and strength
i don't think i've read any fights between spidey and cap....... are there any out there (that last more than a couple of frames before some crappy misunderstanding is cleared up)

Originally posted by StrawNilla
Cap. also teaches children that steroids are okay.

What the hell kind of insane, assine argument is this? So by your ILLOGIC, Spider-Man teaches children it's okay to stick your hands under front porches and hollow logs and hope for a spider bite. If this is the BEST comment you could come up with, give up NOW. This post was so dumb, I'm not even going to waste another word on it.

Spider-Man loses.

spider-man didn't choose to be bitten, cap volunteered to be permanently jacked up on drugs .......... and the people love him for it ....... ben johnson never got that reaction

p.s. spider-man wins

the three characters inability to function fluidly as a team makes this a far more interesting match up than most people are considering.

Environment would be key in this fight, Spiderman's ability to stay high and away from his enemies will be vital.

In the end, I don't think Spidey would win, but I think he'd put up a great fight. He would probably take out two of them before he went down.

And Daredevil, Wolverine, and Captain America DO NOT generally fight bad guys the caliber of Spiderman.

If Venom or Carnage fought any of them one on one V or C would win. Carnage could probably run through all 3 of them one at a time.

I'm going to give a tutorial on Cap just this ONE time, since as I've pointed out in the past, you Spidey-fanboys obviously don't read ANYTHING but Spidey books.

Captain America is not "jacked up on drugs"; his cellular structure was modified at the cellular level, just like Spider-Man's. There is no "drug" in his body; the series of injections, along with the bombardment of Vita-Rays, transformed his body into the PERFECT specimen of human development. He volunteered for the experiment, even though he was told that it may kill him. He did this for his country.

Spider-Man, on the other hand (no pun intended), got into a REALLY lucky accident, then tried to make a profit with it and unwittingly caused the death of his uncle. Given the same choices, with NO idea of the final outcome, he would NEVER have let that spider bite him. Captain America is the BETTER hero.

Please refrain from posting if this is the BEST crap you can come up with. It just shows off your EXTREME fanboyish love for the web-head.

Spider-Man loses. PERIOD.

Originally posted by Scoobless
spider-man didn't choose to be bitten, cap volunteered to be permanently jacked up on drugs .......... and the people love him for it ....... ben johnson never got that reaction

p.s. spider-man wins

Well, he did have a somewhat unrealistic enhancement without any true dangerous side effects, but I don't think it encourages people that steroid inducement is acceptable. We can also say the same about superheroes in general taking criminal matters into their own hands. But if going by the time frame Captain America came from, cigarettes were still being debated up to the 50's and beyond whether they were damaging or not.

Actually, why are we talking about what these heroes are and having them being poster boys to some cause? This thread is turning into bashing heroes than the fight in question.

ok, spider-man did not cause the death of his uncle...... it was a bad coincidence that he blames himself for, i do not believe the events that transpired lead to guilt on his part
cap became a soldier to KILL (regardless of who he was fighting)
spidey takes the moral stand that he'll never kill
the whole "jacked up on drugs" thing was a humourous look at the man (there were drugs involved regardless of whether or not they are still present)
and no one would let a spider bite them for no reason if they didn't know for a fact it would turn out well......... if they would then they are moronic
and thankyou once again for pointing out that cap's power level is merely peak human and not a match for someone of spider-man's calibre

and stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a fanboy, you're not exactly a pillar of non-fanboyism

Originally posted by radioboy121
Actually, why are we talking about what these heroes are and having them being poster boys to some cause? This thread is turning into bashing heroes than the fight in question.

Amen.

what do you mean by "amen"? the whole poster boy thing started with one little remark from strawnilla about steroids which lead to YOU posting this:

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Captain America is not "jacked up on drugs"; his cellular structure was modified at the cellular level, just like Spider-Man's. There is no "drug" in his body; the series of injections, along with the bombardment of Vita-Rays, transformed his body into the PERFECT specimen of human development. He volunteered for the experiment, even though he was told that it may kill him. He did this for his country.

Spider-Man, on the other hand (no pun intended), got into a REALLY lucky accident, then tried to make a profit with it and unwittingly caused the death of his uncle. Given the same choices, with NO idea of the final outcome, he would NEVER have let that spider bite him. Captain America is the BETTER hero.

you're the one that maintained the whole "poster boy" angle here and now you seem thankful that someone else wants it stopped........ well at least you're consistant in your complete devotion to captain america if nothing else

Originally posted by Capt.JK
What the hell kind of insane, assine argument is this? So by your ILLOGIC, Spider-Man teaches children it's okay to stick your hands under front porches and hollow logs and hope for a spider bite. If this is the BEST comment you could come up with, give up NOW. This post was so dumb, I'm not even going to waste another word on it.

Spider-Man loses.

What the, what kind of.....

Geez, I thought the keyboard helped the stutter......

Originally posted by Scoobless
what do you mean by "amen"? the whole poster boy thing started with one little remark from strawnilla about steroids which lead...

First of all, how can you say I STARTED something when my post was in response to another? That makes ZERO sense. Jeez, man - think BEFORE you type.

Secondly, I have had to sit here and endure crap from ALL of you Spidey-fanboys, as has every other fan of the trio, because you can't pull your heads out of Spider-Man's web-shitter long enough to see the truth behind anyone else's statements. When you guys couldn't prove your point any other way, you have resorted to belittling the other characters, and when that hasn't worked, you belittled their fans. I even left the thread at one point because every time I posted an idea about how or why the 3 would win, I got insulted by one of you jokewads. I simply finally got sick of it. Hell, I don't even bother to read half of "whobdamanIthinkmyjokesarefunnydog's" posts anymore because he never really has a point. He just insults people.

Now I have responded once AGAIN to an insult of MY favorite character, because you people aren't smart enough to figure out Spider-Man would lose, or are simply so fanboyishly enamored with ol' Petey that you CAN'T see it.

S P I D E R - M A N . W O U L D . L O S E ! ! !

No offense spidey people, but he is kinda a shitty character now.

Originally posted by jinzin
well venom is everything that spidey is, plus a whole lot more, he doesn't have the same intelligence, but then again he doesn't need it.
The reason why spider-man can't bob and weave around venom's attackes is because venom doesn't trigger his spider sense at all, so spiderman is forced to use all his actual knowledge of fighting which i suppose can get pretty rusty when you're able to let a "sense" take care of that for you, so venom beating the crap out of spidey makes all the sense in the world.

Also in regards to the spiderman, wolverine fight........Wolverine had his claws out the entire fight and was swinging away spiderman's speed was the only thing saving him, He can only react so fast for his senses, but for the fight it was sufficent enough to evade wolverine for a bit,
After spidey began to lay into wolverine, putting his head through a tombstone with multiple punches, Wolverine just layed there smiling at spidey, he then rushed spidey and tackled him to the ground (if he was going for the kill he would have just tackled spidey with his claws, but he didn't) he THEN hit spidey in the face with his claws unsheathed. (Now I don't care how much spidey's spidey sense helps him in a fight, he was on the ground and got hit in the face, like I said if wolverine wanted him dead, we wouldn't have the 20 some spiderman titles that are on the shelves today). Despite the earlier comment, this comic book is actually one of the more well written comics to come out of it's era, it stays true to both super heroes in both character and ability, it's a significantly good read, and holds one of the most importants spiderman moments in history with the dath of ned leeds the "original" hob goblin.
I don't think my "IF" statement was deserate in the least, it's just the truth. And no I'm not humiliated except maybe in your sad pathetic little world because I actually know what the hell I'm talking about, I went out and bought the 40 years of amazing spiderman collection and read some 500 and something spiderman comics, i went out and collected all of SPIDER MAN up to the end of the return of the exile, and i have a bunch of spectacular and peter parker, I'm "up to snuff" on all spidey's powers abilities and feats of all sorts, but the bottom line is, despite all the great spiderman comics I own and have read, theres is not thing one that yet convinces me that he would beat this entire team of "Marvel Legends" these guys take on far more dangerous foes than spidey on a regular basis, yes it's true that the same could be said for spiderman but it's three solid, extensive, impressive records versus his one...........Spiderman would have a hard enough time beating any one of these guys, I really, really doubt he'd beat the crap out of this whole team like you guys are suggesting, despite what you think spiderman is no god, he's been beaten by far less impressive foes (shocker for example) and just isn't capable of walking through this super hero gauntlet like the breez,,,,,,he'll fight,,,,,he'll fight valliantly, and he'll lose valliantly.

Spidey wouldn't need the spider sense against Venom if he focused solely of avoiding Venom's attacks which means kicking his agility into high gear. Believe me, Venom's agile but he does not possess all of Spidey's abilities. He's not as fast and far from being as agile as Spidey and is far from being as perceptive ala he does not possess the spider snese. Venom's basically what Spidey would be with a strength boost ala a more muscular frame and the ability to adhere to surfaces and (forgot about this earlier) webbing, and a greater duability to be assisted by the symbiote. Everything else is non-existent.

I wouldn't use comics as my main defense on this one, seeing that there is alot of evidence (non-logical evidence, mind you) can be used in the opposed defense. Why hold out on using the ridiculous claim that Wolvie could survive a battle with an angry Hulk and has on multiple occasions? Why hold out on using the claim that Cap. (a "perfect" HUMAN) could have his hand used as a wrecking ball? Why hold out on the claim that DD has beaten Spidey before? I just....would not. I'm looking at this from an acutual ability standpoint. Because just because stuff can be written down about a character for the thick of it, to me, if it's beyond the character's limits, I wouldn't accept it. Call me a fanboy for calling Spidey the most agile charcter MARVEL has ever created, even though it IS true, and that's just fine with me. I mean, what's to say he isn't? Crap writing people should know is just not credible? Sure, why not?

Originally posted by Capt.JK
First of all, how can you say I STARTED something when my post was in response to another? That makes ZERO sense. Jeez, man - think BEFORE you type.

Secondly, I have had to sit here and endure crap from ALL of you Spidey-fanboys, as has every other fan of the trio, because you can't pull your heads out of Spider-Man's web-shitter long enough to see the truth behind anyone else's statements. When you guys couldn't prove your point any other way, you have resorted to belittling the other characters, and when that hasn't worked, you belittled their fans. I even left the thread at one point because every time I posted an idea about how or why the 3 would win, I got insulted by one of you jokewads. I simply finally got sick of it. Hell, I don't even bother to read half of "whobdamanIthinkmyjokesarefunnydog's" posts anymore because he never really has a point. He just insults people.

Now I have responded once AGAIN to an insult of MY favorite character, because you people aren't smart enough to figure out Spider-Man would lose, or are simply so fanboyishly enamored with ol' Petey that you CAN'T see it.

S P I D E R - M A N . W O U L D . L O S E ! ! !

Sorry buddy, I think you're looking for the whine-a** forum about 20 pages that way. 😆

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
No offense spidey people, but he is kinda a shitty character now.