Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

wow you wrote all that disagreement, so you could agree with me? lol that's funny.

yes I did mean that these characters have worked together in groups of two, not all three at once, before, and shown to be some excellent team ups in my opinion.

Captain america is not micheal jordan, he's captain freakin america!

Wolverine has shown to deffer from the group but it's usually due to some internal mental anguish going on with his character, when his "team" needs him, his loyalty is unqestionable.

Yes spiderman does have his nifty spider sense, but my point was this, the vulture did a looped a loop and got behing spiderman without spiderman even knowing what was going on cause he did it so fast. Despite spiderman's spider sense, it doesn't tell him what's coming or where it's coming from. getting attacked by all three characters at once, if cap is strategically chucking his sheild around spidey's gonna have a hard time dealing with it, esp when it's coming back off of rebounds.

My whole DD argument is that despite spiderman's strength these two should be able to dance around eachother all night, and that DD isn't a pushover vs. spiderman as everyone else is trying to convince us of. i also seem to recall that DD senses were slightly better than the spidey sense, i can't remember how though, sorry.

And wolverine's senses change from time to time,,,,but for how he is supposed to be, he should hear on a level on par with DD, granted that he's studied do many martial arts for so long, one has to assume that he's trained blindfolded (as i've done this with only 6 years of training under my belt). He should be able to feel the air moving around him, and hear spiderman's movements as well, for how he is supposed to be written he should be on par with spiderman and his spider sense, (they do two diff things but essentially help the characters in the same way).
Spiderman's strength does dwarf wolverine's but for how wolverine is supposed to be written it doesn't matter, wolverine has adamantium fists which can't feel to good when he's pounding on ya, he's beaten roughouse in a fist fight (without his claws) and knocked the guy out, (and this was at a time when roughouse's strength was at class 50 to 70 supposedly.)
Yes spiderman's faster but wolverine is also supposed to be written at having blinding speed for a peak human character. plus his healing factor will help a lot in this fight, spiderman's gonna fatigue and tire out, wolverine's healing factor should keep him kicking at average pace for a couple of days, (the guy once fought omega red for 17 hours, and omega red is a straight up badass!).

And finally, all these characters have at one point or another faced hurrendous odds, they're heroes it's what they do.

Originally posted by jinzin
Spiderman's strength does dwarf wolverine's but for how wolverine is supposed to be written it doesn't matter, wolverine has adamantium fists which can't feel to good when he's pounding on ya, he's beaten roughouse in a fist fight (without his claws) and knocked the guy out, (and this was at a time when roughouse's strength was at class 50 to 70 supposedly.)

That's comics for you.

But his newfound superstrength didn't help him one bit against Spider-Man, who defeated Roughhouse AND his partner in crime, the half vampire Bloodscream, very easily.

ummmm he already had super strength dude......he smashed a car into a pile of rubble with one hit, wolverine stated only a handful of people in the world have that kind of strength,,,,,with all the heavy hitters wolverine's duked it out with, I would think he would know dude.

Originally posted by jinzin
ummmm he already had super strength dude......he smashed a car into a pile of rubble with one hit, wolverine stated only a handful of people in the world have that kind of strength,,,,,with all the heavy hitters wolverine's duked it out with, I would think he would know dude.

If they have fought before that fight, and if Roughhouse showed some superstrength, than I take back what I said.

they did, roughouse showed a lot of super strength.
it's all good.

why does nearly everyone here get these characters' powers/abilities wrong?
do you people even read these comics? have you read the Marvel Universe?
strength:
Spiderman - 10 tons (20,000 lbs.)
Captain America - 800 lbs.
Daredevil - somewhere over 400 lbs.
Wolverine - 500 lbs. (as stated in the 80's Marvel Universe book, then
recently they said he lifts 800 lbs., now in the new MU his strength is a
"4" while Captain America is a "3". talk about inconsistant writing!)

Daredevil's senses/radar helps him "see" whats going on
360 degrees around him. Spiderman's spidersense is a
PSYCHIC sense. It senses danger BEFORE it happens.
They're not even remotely similar. Wolverine's senses are
super sharp (particularly smell/hearing), but they're nowhere
near Daredevil's. Wolvie even stated this in his last issue.
Why do people keep thinking that they somehow "nullify"
the spidersense??
If we're gonna argue this comic versus stuff, at least get your facts straight.
There's nothing more fun than talking comics with a fellow fan.
There's nothing more annoying than talking comics with fanboys who
don't know anything outside of their homo-erotic love for their favorite character.

pimp

[QUOTE]Originally posted by who?-kid
The only reason Captain America was created, was for propaganda-reasons. The big, strong honest American who wanted to risk his life for his country, and who wanted to defeat the evil Nazi-empire.

Come on, look at his costume, look at his shield, look at his name, it has America written all over it ! If that isn't propaganda, nothing is. I have nothing against America, but to create in the middle of the War a flag-wearing square jawed Mr. Perfect who without any fear fights hordes of Nazis... well, that is of course pure propaganda, nothing more.

It's a powerful weapon during war. When the war was over, there was no use anymore for Captain America, but when the Avengers became popular, they fished him back out of the water, and he began a new, more interesting life.[QUOTE]

Captain America was not written as mere propaganda. There were several other such heroes at the time, released by various other comic companies. Captain America was simply considered the BEST, and his #1 cover, considered by many to be one of the BEST comic covers of all time, said something about how the American public at large felt about the European and Asian threat. The Nazis were running rampant over Europe, as were the Japanese in the Pacific. The Australians and the English were begging for our help. Our supply ships to the English were already being threatened by German U-Boats. Captain America was created in part to push the politicians to action, so of course his costume has America written all over it. They draped him in the American flag so that there would be NO DOUBTS about what he stood for or who he represented.

Spider-Man's costume is covered with webs and spiders. What should he be wearing; pictures of eggplants and little horsey pajamas? What's your point?

Well, here's mine:
You made a statement that reflected some sort of selfish reasoning behind Steve Rogers taking the Super Soldier injections. Read your own post. I replied and pointed out the many reasons for how WRONG your statements were, but irregardless of why the creators of Captain America dressed him up in the American flag and named him after their country, the fact remains, as I pointed out and cleared up for you, is that the CHARACTER of STEVE ROGERS had NO DESIRE other than to serve his country and protect innocent people. That is why he tried to join the Army. That is why he volunteered for an untested project that could kill him. That is why he protested when the government tried to keep him at home and use him for nothing more than a PROPAGANDA machine for the US. HE fought to go to Europe and fight the Nazis, and later on the Japanese.

Captain America was fazed out of the spotlight in the mid-fifties because people no longer wanted to be reminded of the horrors of WW2 and Korea. It was a new time, and the Cold War with Russia didn't seem to fit Cap's story lines. The men and boys who had read his books during WW2 had grown up and moved on, and the incoming generation of readers weren't interested in "war" stories. He was brought back in 1964 in Avengers #4 because of a growing popularity for the older characters and a nostalgic feeling from readers. Captain America was at the forefront of this trend in comics.

Which brings us back to the thread. Cap, Wolverine, and DD would win. There are many reasons why, all of which have been stated over and over and over... You guys just don't want to see it.

man why did you have to go there, if you read any of most of our posts you would know we're not fanboys, yeah spiderman's sense alarms him to oncoming danger, but it doesn't tell him precisely from where or what it may be, with 3 guys (all packing various weapons) like these attack him simultaniously his spider sense might not be as effective as you want, DD danced circls around venom who usually tharashes spiderman so to say that it isn't comparable is a load of crapola.
spiderman's been hit by doctor doom in the head a few times in a single fight, and his spider sense really wasn't doing jack about that know was it?
In response to the spider sense nullification, that was an example of how the characters are SUPPOSED to be written, not how we consistantly, or more like inconsistantly see them.

oh yeah don't call people fanboys when you don't have your facts straight about the people you're criticizing.

All I know is the cartoon version of the spide and daredevil and wolfy.

if spiderman and wolverine ever fought there battle will last so long that spiderman will ran out of webing and wolverine is alot more experienced in battle then Spiderman.

Dont you Agree?

ummmmmm......yyyyeah??????? 😕

what are you trying to imply?

good point Zahit, but as a few people have said, let's cut out the insults and fanboy finger pointing ok
with your post you show the basic differences in strength and senses that have been argued over A LOT recently, if you add to that thier speed profiles you see the trio are fairly similar to one another, that is peak human or slightly better, and stamina, DD really good, Cap - peak human, Wolv - freakin awesome and Spidey - around human x 40
in an attack anything thrown at spidey can be caught or webbed, not just dodged and as proven against various incarnations of the sinister 6 and the like his spider sense works just as well agaist multiple foes so he's not likely to be blindsided, i don't know which comic was being referred to when it was said that the vulture got behind him and got a good shot in but the vulture can move at over 100mph, none of this trio can do that and it's highly doubtful anything they throw will travel that fast as most men's tennis average serves are only around 110 - 130mph and this being much faster than throwing, and even if they could, he still has early warning and tremendous reflexes

this fight wont be quick and DD will most likely drop first through lactic acid build up, it'll go to 2 on 1 and the spiders chances will only get better with time

note the complete lack of insults at people or characters

and captjk, the only thing i'd like to add to your earlier post is that it wasn't just england the US finally joined the war to help

well i agree that spidey would lose, but for the purpose of these debates it's much easier to stick with just using comic facts and even then it's not simple,,,,look at this thread. also your sentence structure was a little messy and hard to understand. sorry.

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Here's the abbreviated version of his post with all of the insults removed but highlighted. As you can see, there is only ONE real question in the whole thing. This is also, unfortunately, a very TYPICAL post from this guy. You can take pretty much ANY of his posts from this thread and do the same thing with it. Pathetically freakish his infatuation with me.

As for his question of being lost, well... I'm not surprised. But I will try and lead him out of the darkness. If you read the post, the WHOLE post, it CLEARLY states:

"He volunteered for the experiment, even though he was told that it may kill him. He did this for his country."

Now if becoming a soldier, willing to die for your country and your beliefs, doesn't make you a hero... What does?

BWahahaha..Cap you really take this all to seriously...lol..if you take time to read some of mine/others posts..you'll find that your
arguments have been dismantled many times by myself and others.....as I stated before you seem to be more agitated with not being able to come up with a "logical" basis for your arguments..rather than what you deem to be "insults"....

..and actually dude...half of this thread you've been throwing all kinds of things at people...but you fly off the handle when people do it back at you...as I said before JK..don't dish it out if you can't take it back..

Anyway..as for the Captain taking drugs..blah..blah.blah...who really cares? It was a joke dude..lol..deal with it..

In response to your question...everyone's perception of what makes a hero is different...so this really is a silly question..lol..anyways...back to the topic...

As it has been so humbly stated in previous posts..the Trio's abilities are on a peak human level...you for the most part have acknowledged this..SM's are not...that's a fact my man...quit ignoring it....I'll humbly admit(as I have before..read my previous posts clearly)...that the trio "could" take out SM...but I do believe it would be very difficult for them to do so...especially if all of the respective combatants were fighting to the best of their abilities

SM has proven time and time again to be a difficult foe for many people when he is focused and going all out...and it is very possible that he could be more than the trio could handle given the circumstances...

THE END

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what are captain america's powers?

Iknow some but not all...../....

who's sentences are hard to understand?

"no he can't" or "no they can't" or "spider man would win" doesn't dismantle our arguements you loon! lol.

and what circumstances?! it's not like the trio is fighting in a tag team, or with a hand behind their backs, he only "circumstance" is spidey being outnumbered, out gunned, and outclassed, thus getting his ass kicked.

so what if these guys are peak human (although logan is still debatable) they all fight guys Times more powerful, stronger, dangerous, than spiderman and come out on top most of the time, (Like i said spidey does too) but the fact that all you have to fall back on is "their peak humans" therefore they will lose is utterly ridiculous.

THE END? yeah it will be the end for spidey after this ass whompin.

moises', well his first one anyways.....kinda.

You think Daredevil dancing circles around Venom is quality writing?
Spiderman's spidersense not going off while fighting Dr. Doom?
These are hardly what I would call examples of consistant writing.
I didn't mean you in particular jinzin.
As far as fanboyism goes, I'm not referring to anybody in specific.
All i'm saying is I've read many of the posts in this and other threads
and I lost count on how many times someone missquoted a characters
abilities/powers. If someone doesn't want to be referred as a fanboy,
then get the facts straight.
Spiderman, Wolverine, Daredevil & Captain America are
VERY established characters. Their biographies, abilities, powers
are not freakin' secrets. I'm always surprised that "comic fans" keep
getting them wrong. In fact these 4 are among my favorites!!!
I've read the vast majority of all their books. I know these characters
VERY VERY well. This is not a fight that would end in a clear-cut victor.
It could realistically go in any direction.
Spiderman IS capable of beating the three of them.
On the same token, the three of them CAN beat Spiderman, depending
on the circumstances and surroundings.