Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

"Yes it was...as it was demonstrated on the cover and in the comic itself...Cap had a difficult time hitting SM...and as it was also demonstrated..SM wasn't really struggling to avoid him....which would make one think that at his best..Cap/DD/Wolvie won't be able to touch him..."

maybe we all don't dudge how a fight will be settled by looking at the cover of a fu**ing comic.

yeah cap, Haven't you seen the 5 bazillion comics where spidey's running around organ snatching? I mean come on man get with it.

"Yes..probably..your too busy reading Captain America..diversify laddy..set your spirit free..there are other things out in the world other than Captain America...lol..."

Okay, just so you know, you just agreed that firelord does appear in every other spider-man issue with this statement strawnilla, I know it's hard but try to keep up okay.

Okay it's time for a little lesson in humility......a-again. to identify suggests a psychological empathy with the feelings or experiences of another person, on other words, to consider (oneself) as similar to somebody else; "He identified with the refugees". What does this mean? Well i'll tell you! It is common for people who like a particular comic book character to find that they do so because they can relate to the character in question. This includes lifestyle, morals, values, personality, sense of humor, or lack there-of, attitude, etc etc....HOWEVER, one needs not to want to live the life of a refugee, or a comic character to identify with them. One may use those said values morals and lifestyles as a guide without wanting to go fight super villians every month. The funny thing is spider-man is easily one of, if not the most identifiable comic book characters in history, (this has been stated time and time again) and yet you seem to think that every spider-man fan would want to be spider-man,,,,,ridiculous.

So now your arguments been depleted to false accusations huh? well lets see I did say "our" scenarios,,,implying more than one person,,, for examples cap and (oh I don't know) MYSELF! not once did you retort any one of my scenarios. And while we're on the subject, since there's walls and crap giving spiderman homefeild advantage are we to also assume that they are in a pitchblack, jungle, warzone, during this fight as well?

"And your name NEVER CAME UP IN MY POST DIRECTED AT CAPT. JK, STOP LYING! "

Hmmmm I do seem to recall an ENTIRE post directed at me......go look it has my name at the header, anyone with 2 eyes in their skull could see that. Lying? so now REAL facts aren't even an opinion in your book, there just lies? hahahaha, man this is retarded.

"And I "made up" facts? Okay, you call them FACTS yet you say I made them up? That's just....sad."

No you call them facts. When I say you made up facts well,,,,,,ugh just save me the headache and go look up sarcasm for yourself.

"And crap writing is NOT FACT! There's always a loophole as to how it happened. You said it yourself, Spidey had 5-7 titles that were pretty much crap, "

think of anything else to say, and I utterly detest it has a meathod of debate on these boards,,,,,however if you can find one example where I stated that one character beating another is inplausible in every way due to the CWA. I'll shut up,,,,,,the bottem line is however, you won't.
"Spidey impressed by the force in Cap's arm? Yet he cracks jokes when being pummeled by thirty supervillains after being blasted away by twenty lasers and dropped into a prison cell, comments on his sense of humor in a fight with Venom, grabs on to some bus bars packing ALOT of heat (Johhny Storm exaggerating saying that there were about ten trillion volts in them, but does act as an indication to the staggering amount of electricity in the bus bars) just to get the symbiote away from him...he ended up merely blacking out for a couple hours."
go read the comic and see for yourself. it says it all there. and spidey cracking jokes,,,,,honestly it's like you don't even know the character you're attempting to defend. He does that all the time and it's false bravado, he's even stated this on a couple of occasions. Hell I have stacks of comic where venom's killing, or about to kill spider-man and he's still cracking jokes, it doesn't mean he's not thinking (oh shit) inside.

again sarcasm, look it up. it will be fun. and the whole thing about that comic is that you claim spiderman beat captain america in it,,,,,,just based on that I already know you've never opened page one of that book and have no credibility to proclaim what took place in it, furthermore you try and use the cover of the comic as the basis for your debate, ridiculous.

"And why would Spidey be scared to die fighting Wolvie when knowing he's faster and could easily avoid his claws as well as grap his neck? End result: it snaps like a twig. And do you know the sad part to all of this? There's so many ways in which Spidey could easily stun and/or stop Wolvie, as well as one or two options that allows the kill, yet, his character was written to fear him. I guess Spidey backhanding the guy a couple feet backwards means nothing to say for a one-on-one fight......how sad."

perhaps it's becasue he knows wolverine has a good chance of taggin him, or that one hit will end the fight, or that he may not be as lucky as he ussually, or (and the list goes on and on). And seriously, he backhanded wolverine and knocked him down,,,,,I was totally unaware that that counts as a victory in a fight. ohhhhh wait that's right, it doesn't. pffft, was wolverine hurt? no. was wolverine trying to hurt spidey? not really.

"And why wouldn't Cap be dumbfounded in the process of being pummeled to death?"

probably because he'd be to busy winning.

"That the Trio have never "tangled with foes of superior power" on the level as SM's....I have as of yet not received any examples of these foes...(note Scorpian and Doc Ock don't count..lol)"
hmmmm magneto, horde, apocalypse, hulk, ultron, venom, namor, sentinal armies, etc etc,,,,yeah what a bunch of lightweights.....my ass.

"Cap punching Spidey "1" time hardly counts as a win either"
perhaps not, but it certainly nullifies your pathetic, they won't touch him theory.

"they were fighting the "Friendly Neighborhood Spidey".

hmmmmm and just what does "I'm giving him everything I've got" translate in your diluted misguided brain?

"and Wolverine always gets hit a ton of times in all of their encounters"

guess you missed out on hulk 181 as well huh?

"and you really haven't given any reasons as to why he and the rest of the Trio would win..other than the following:
The Trio are Icons....
Captain America is the World's Greatest Tactician..
Wolverine is a killing Machine..."The best at what he does"
Daredevil has a fighting style that nearly mimics SM...(which is very inaccurate and untrue)"

Is that what you read? interesting, I could have sworn to have written literally pages of crap has to why the trio would win. So far all you've given is a flood of posts telling us how great you think spiderman is, and a bunch of "nu-uh" arguments (if you can even call them that). We have given reason,,,,,after reason,,,,after reason for why spider man would get his ass literally handed over to him in this fight and whether you choose to accept it or not is one thing, but this is stupid. When you couldn't win the debate drawing from the comics themselves, you reverted to using stats, when that didn't work, you choose to insult the trio fighters, when that didn't work we wnet back to he comic book examples and when that didn't work you started making up powers and abilities that your character isn't even capible of and claiming that they're facts,,,,,and finally when that didn't work, you choose to call trio-supporters liars, as well as making up an entire spider-man universe where spiderman beats up on hulk and firelord on a monthly basis...blah...blah..blah...

Okay raise your hand if you were able to read all of that without suffering from a slight feeling of vertigo.... 😆 😆 Jeeepers Freaking Cripes Dude.....learn to use the freaking QUOTE tags..😆 😆

Anyway...in response to all your mumbo jumbo..you still have yet to address the following facts...

Captain America/DD only have HUMAN level durability and wouldn't be able to withstand an "unpulled" punch form SM...

Captain America/DD only have HUMAN level speeds..and would not be able to dodge every blow which SM threw at them...

SM has CONSISTANTLY dodged people much faster than all 3 combatants when not fighting at his best...

SM has CONSISTANTLY defeated people as experienced/more experienced than the Trio who are infinitely more powerful than the Trio...

And the best argument you can come up with against all these facts are..

CAP HIT SPIDER MAN ONE TIME..LOL

oh yeah I fogot you did have one more pertinant argument amongst all your deluded fanboy rhetoric..

WOLVERINE HAS DEFEATED PIRATES...LOL

Come on now jin...who's the one who's really humiliating themselves..lol..even your buddy Captain JK agrees that...

he could conceivably defeat any one of these guys alone..

So just face the FACTS...and get your brain of that delusional-fanboyish-homoerotic world. Take your left hand off the Captain A comic, and your right hand off your wanker...and except the fact that based on his "history", SM has a "reasonable" chance of defeating the Trio..especially if he's fighting at his best....it's not that hard of a concept to accept...

Originally posted by jinzin
"Yes it was...as it was demonstrated on the cover and in the comic itself...Cap had a difficult time hitting SM...and as it was also demonstrated..SM wasn't really struggling to avoid him....which would make one think that at his best..Cap/DD/Wolvie won't be able to touch him..."

maybe we all don't dudge how a fight will be settled by looking at the cover of a fu**ing comic.

"Yes as do you...using your logic...."The entire history"...is relevant..so it should be used...however..unlike you Trio supporters..we have consistancy to our examples..meaning we've cited things that happened more than once or twice...and are consistant with the overall character and his abilities....consistancy along with "facts" make a strong argument..."

yeah cap, Haven't you seen the 5 bazillion comics where spidey's running around organ snatching? I mean come on man get with it.

"Yes..probably..your too busy reading Captain America..diversify laddy..set your spirit free..there are other things out in the world other than Captain America...lol..."

Okay, just so you know, you just agreed that firelord does appear in every other spider-man issue with this statement strawnilla, I know it's hard but try to keep up okay.

"When I said that "you're the one who needs help if you "identify" with a comic book character" you retorted with a "well you just insulted half the posters on this board." Besides that not being directed at you (thereby making it none of your buisness), "identifying" with a comic book character would mean that you see yuorself in them or can relate to them and their lifestyle. If you can do this and not want to live their life or be more like them, then you never really identify with them."

Okay it's time for a little lesson in humility......a-again. to identify suggests a psychological empathy with the feelings or experiences of another person, on other words, to consider (oneself) as similar to somebody else; "He identified with the refugees". What does this mean? Well i'll tell you! 🙂 It is common for people who like a particular comic book character to find that they do so because they can relate to the character in question. This includes lifestyle, morals, values, personality, sense of humor, or lack there-of, attitude, etc etc....HOWEVER, one needs not to want to live the life of a refugee, or a comic character to identify with them. One may use those said values morals and lifestyles as a guide without wanting to go fight super villians every month. The funny thing is spider-man is easily one of, if not the most identifiable comic book characters in history, (this has been stated time and time again) and yet you seem to think that every spider-man fan would want to be spider-man,,,,,ridiculous.

And the organ snatching theory is just that....a theory. I don't know how many times you plan to try and use that against me (without proving me wrong) to support your illogoical fanboyish arguments, and I really don't care, many have explained that is a "win by any means nessecary" kind of fight, and snatching the opposed internal organs out isn't exactly a feat beyond Spidey's physical compacity, but it's not like it's going to happen. Get over it and try some real arguments.

And I NEVER ARGUED SVFL!!!!! And the fact that you'd such a lie to win an argument that can't be won on your part is quite pathetic.

And I argued that YOU sound like you thought that every comic book fan wanted to fight crime....I know they don't. Just because someone relates to a character doesn't mean they can identify with said character's life...that's what your argument about someone identifying with a comic book charater sounded like, regardless of whether you meant it or not. Can you say you know what it feels like to brace five story falls and swing higher than most buildings on a thread? If you do, then that's your buisness, if you don't, then don't waste my time trying to "explain" such things to me.

Originally posted by jinzin
"Wouldn't make much difference."

so you think that spidey would be able to beat DD in pitch black, or wolverine in a jungle? esp. after spidey aleady admitted to being way out of his element when fighting venom in the same kind of environment?

"Like Spider-Man beating a herald of Galactus ? Or hurting (and more than once humiliating) Hulk ? Or Morlun ? Or Iron Man ? Or Sandman ? Or Titania ? Or She-Hulk ?"

Have i ever denied these? I think not.

"So those claws were just for show ?"

not really, but it's not like wolverine was really trying to hurt spidey either.

actually the cap already shot down some of those "facts" not too long ago, so I digress.

the thing that strawnillahas been avoiding is proof of any of accusations of me and my arguments, comments, etc....which is different but whatever.

And I think you have trouble reading some posts, that whole period where Cap "shot down" facts was and is a failed attempt to prove the Spidey supporters wrong. I posted against them, whobdamandog posted against them.....the only thing he "shot down" was his own credibility.

And when have I avoided ANYTHING you have posted against me? As I recall, I posted an argument to the contrary of each and every argument you had in your posts. If anyone should talk about anyone avoiding anything it should be those who posted actual scenarios (and credible scenarios, mind you) to which a side could win. You have not, you can not, and you will not. But that's for you to pan out, not I.

"If you:
- have fought like almost every important villain in the world (at least once)
- have teamed up with almost every hero in the world (again, at least once)
- you have so much adventures you have countless series and spin-offs
- you have a truly amazing amount of enemies and have been dancing through death traps for years"

point well taken, and I actually more than agree with you. I still don't think that captain america's stratgic mindset and leadership abilities will be a non-factor in this fight, in fact i believe this to be a detrimental peice for the trio to claim victory.

"You call Spiderman fans fanatical, while there are people on this board
who actually think Wolverine can take down Godzilla??????"

wait? don't you mean person? I didn't think there was more than 1 person who thought that.
"If you want to go by who's comic book ben out longer it's spider-man about ten years befor Logan first should his face in the hulk comic.'

yeah, and Captain america has been out a couple decades before that.

"Wow, I can't believe you pointed out Storm as a weak good guy"
seriously, I wouldn't underestimate the weather witch in ANY scenario.

"Spiderman is every bit as battle tested as Wolverine or Captain America."

perhaps, has far a the superhero biz is concerned, but overall, Wolverine's been in every major and some minor wars since WWI (possibly even some before that) . He's been a government agent, a trained samurai, and is even reffered to a "the warrior of legend" by peopl from the future, I think it's safe to say he has spidey beat on experience, battle testing, etc...

wait? don't you mean person? I didn't think there was more than 1 person who thought that.

If I do recall..weren't you the same person who believed that carnage would take out Superman?!!!

Yes And I posted some damn good reason as to how he could do it, I just don't think it's probable, but he has at least a decent chance.....unless you think superman's capable of fighting off an inumerable amount of symbiotes.....not that any of that pretains to this fight whatsoever.

I don't think that the Wrecking Crew who are a bunch of hacks with magical tools like crowbars and chains I mean common people wtf is that. You call that competition? The lizard, Ttitania who got knocked the hell out with one blow? Those are your powerhouses right there? Doc Oct I never gave that played out wannabe genius idiot any kinda credit anyway. But if u say so fine. As far as IG, half of the MU were missing SM fought next to these guys as a desperate act. If you recall SM asking Vision about the outcome of the fight, Vision replied that this attempt at Thanos was utterly futile because they didn't stand a chance. My point is that they could have picked anybody because the situation was critical and SM didn't play any key role in that atack although Logan was counted on as a last resort to take out Thanos. You tell me who had a bigger role in that??? So now u compare a goto guy to a decoy? Cuz that's what SM's role was in IG wars

No...but real competition comes in the form of Red Skull or Sabretooth. 😆

You're sitting here dissing the bad guys in Secret Wars and defending Wolverine and Captain America as if their arch nemesis' are something worth raising and eyebrow over. Doc Ock (Spidey's nemesis) would ruin Sabretooth or Red Skull...hell, so would the Lizard.

In IG EVERYONE was a decoy against Thanos. Calling Wolverine a "go to" guy is a complete joke. The only go to guy in that fight was Silver Surfer when he was given the task of snatching the gauntlet from Thanos' hand. Wolverine was NOTHING to Thanos...

Originally posted by LordFear
My point is that they could have picked anybody because the situation was critical and SM didn't play any key role in that atack although Logan was counted on as a last resort to take out Thanos. You tell me who had a bigger role in that??? So now u compare a goto guy to a decoy? Cuz that's what SM's role was in IG wars

You call that competition? The lizard, Ttitania who got knocked the hell out with one blow? Those are your powerhouses right there?

And Titania did not get knocked out "with one blow". Where do you get your facts ?

But... what does all this have to do with this thread ? I know you're trying to prove something, but what ? 😉

Good question.

This started out as "Spiderman is just some dude in his early 20's" against 2 seasoned veterans in Cap and Wolvie....I said experience has nothing to do with this fight considering the careers each of these characters have had.

Originally posted by who?-kid
But... what does all this have to do with this thread ? I know you're trying to prove something, but what ?

It's to divert away from the "fact" that he has no "facts" against the arguments you've presented......lol...

While I don't think that comparing the villains in secret wars to the heroes has thing 1 to do with this board I wouldn't call sabretooth and redskull pushovers by any means.

Originally posted by LordFear
Again I have said that when it comes to Spidey, fanboys say absolutely anything.
I mean Spidey a dude in his early twenties against vets like Logan, Cap. Really???? When I blow my nose I get gold dablooms too.
If u wanna hear another bulls***t I'll tell you another.

Believe me, if Spidey was just some "dude in his early twenties", he'd hardly be as successful as he is against Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Kingpin, Scorpion, Kraven, Kingpin, Lizard, Electro, Shocker, heck, even Vulture would knock the guy around a bit. My point being....Spidey's more than a dude in his early twenties, he's more than human. He's the guy that put everyone from various Goblins to the Hulk to shame in terms of maneuverability alone. Add that to a chuck load of other superhuman abilities and you got yourself a hero well worthy of acclaim.

Originally posted by jinzin
"And I haven't responded to your scenarios....no, I guess I didn't counter every scenario that Capt. JK had listed....liar."

So now your arguments been depleted to false accusations huh? well lets see I did say "our" scenarios,,,implying more than one person,,, for examples cap and (oh I don't know) MYSELF! not once did you retort any one of my scenarios. And while we're on the subject, since there's walls and crap giving spiderman homefeild advantage are we to also assume that they are in a pitchblack, jungle, warzone, during this fight as well?

"And your name NEVER CAME UP IN MY POST DIRECTED AT CAPT. JK, STOP LYING! "

Hmmmm I do seem to recall an ENTIRE post directed at me......go look it has my name at the header, anyone with 2 eyes in their skull could see that. Lying? so now REAL facts aren't even an opinion in your book, there just lies? hahahaha, man this is retarded.

"And I "made up" facts? Okay, you call them FACTS yet you say I made them up? That's just....sad."

No you call them facts. When I say you made up facts well,,,,,,ugh just save me the headache and go look up sarcasm for yourself.

"And crap writing is NOT FACT! There's always a loophole as to how it happened. You said it yourself, Spidey had 5-7 titles that were pretty much crap, "

Actually, something that DID take place,,,,in continuity is a fact.....even by your standards, unless the loophole was that these comics we're reffering to took place in another universe, you're just utterly wrong. And please show me were I said that due to spidey have multiple ongoing titles and appearances it's crap infact show me where I've ever had to use the CWA (crap writing argument) as a stand against spidey or for that matter any fight on these boards,,,,,ANY,,,,,,seriously every time I've called you out about this kind of stuff you've avoided it like the plague, and I'll tell ya why, cause you're wrong,,,,,again. That was in relation to you saying that spiderman got hit by cap because cap was more popular, it had absolutely nothing to do with the CWA (crap writing argument). I've never had to resort to the CWA to save my characters ass, honestly the CWA is what people have to resort to when they can't think of anything else to say, and I utterly detest it has a meathod of debate on these boards,,,,,however if you can find one example where I stated that one character beating another is inplausible in every way due to the CWA. I'll shut up,,,,,,the bottem line is however, you won't.
"Spidey impressed by the force in Cap's arm? Yet he cracks jokes when being pummeled by thirty supervillains after being blasted away by twenty lasers and dropped into a prison cell, comments on his sense of humor in a fight with Venom, grabs on to some bus bars packing ALOT of heat (Johhny Storm exaggerating saying that there were about ten trillion volts in them, but does act as an indication to the staggering amount of electricity in the bus bars) just to get the symbiote away from him...he ended up merely blacking out for a couple hours."
go read the comic and see for yourself. it says it all there. and spidey cracking jokes,,,,,honestly it's like you don't even know the character you're attempting to defend. He does that all the time and it's false bravado, he's even stated this on a couple of occasions. Hell I have stacks of comic where venom's killing, or about to kill spider-man and he's still cracking jokes, it doesn't mean he's not thinking (oh shit) inside.

"And wow, proof of an issue to which I never denied the existence of.......fascinating. You haven't even rebuked my arguments with anything else but calling it fact. That's not an argument (not a liable one), more like a, what's the word I'm looking for, the word you use to describe the scenarios of the Spidey supporters......oh yeah, your OPINION."

again sarcasm, look it up. it will be fun. and the whole thing about that comic is that you claim spiderman beat captain america in it,,,,,,just based on that I already know you've never opened page one of that book and have no credibility to proclaim what took place in it, furthermore you try and use the cover of the comic as the basis for your debate, ridiculous.

"And why would Spidey be scared to die fighting Wolvie when knowing he's faster and could easily avoid his claws as well as grap his neck? End result: it snaps like a twig. And do you know the sad part to all of this? There's so many ways in which Spidey could easily stun and/or stop Wolvie, as well as one or two options that allows the kill, yet, his character was written to fear him. I guess Spidey backhanding the guy a couple feet backwards means nothing to say for a one-on-one fight......how sad."

perhaps it's becasue he knows wolverine has a good chance of taggin him, or that one hit will end the fight, or that he may not be as lucky as he ussually, or (and the list goes on and on). And seriously, he backhanded wolverine and knocked him down,,,,,I was totally unaware that that counts as a victory in a fight. ohhhhh wait that's right, it doesn't. pffft, was wolverine hurt? no. was wolverine trying to hurt spidey? not really.

"And why wouldn't Cap be dumbfounded in the process of being pummeled to death?"

probably because he'd be to busy winning.

And just because an occurance of a peak human with peak abilties and limits beating Spidey was actually written to have happened does not make it straight up in your face fact. If a writer believes that Cap, DD, and Wolvie could beat Spidey straight up one-on-one in a no holds barred, win by any means, use everything you have physically to take your opponent out kinda fight, then that's their opinion. There's almost nothing you can do against someone who outclasses you in almost every physical aspect (I say almost to indicate that Wolvie has the edge over Spidey in endurance and durability brought upon by his healing factor) in a standing fight, no prep time, come as you are (nothing more) kind of fight, it's well known fact.

Give me one scenario, logically elaborated, in which Cap, DD, and Wolvie could compose themselves as a team fast enoguh in a no-prep time battle when facing off against Spdey, the guy who could pretty much shrug off Cap's and DD's best punches standing, only to come back with a powerful, more quickly executed attack of his own. Not to mention pre cog that'll keep him steps ahead of Wolvie (the fastest member of the group), and strength enough to deliver a knockout blow, at the expense of a broken hand, that'll lay "Mr. Invincible" out long enough for the medics on board whoever's there afterward to pull him off the battlefield.

I mean, Wolvie would have to be faster, stronger, or have both such advantages over Spidey to tag him with a claw strike, and, guess what? He's not. How will he surprise the guy in any area, he's not a symbiote! Spidey will know of, and is fast enough to avoid, any attack from Wolvie instances before it occurs on reflex speed alone. That combined with agility and strength is more than enough to counter said attack. It's simple fact.

And again, every comic book fight you see doesn't have the logical ending anyone with common sense could predict occuring. I mean, would Kraven's Last Hunt would have been the "hunt" it was without Spidey losing his powers? No. The excuse of Spidey losing his powers to put the story over as well as other examples of profound crap writing are either A) full-blown fanboyism or B) a sales gimmick. I mean, knowing Spidey pretty much had to make up a fighting style of his own because the regular Martial Arts woudn't teach him a move he wouldn't have already known to do on instinct tells you that a martial artist can't do much against him on skill alone, and now you expect to believe that a guy with superhuman senses but no pre cog, peak human strength, speed, agility, and raw peak human toughness could stand up to someone who does have pre cog, is faster, is stronger, better coordinated and balanced, tougher, is more agile, longer enduring and stronger-willed? I know not. You can't just give examples of these things happening knowing of the physical advantages (in every area) one has over the other. Well, you can, but I'll dispute it.

And I never claimed Spidey beat Cap in any comic. Granted he could and should (it's not like Cap. is carrying the comic book industry on his back or something) but no writer has ever fessed up to it. But, to say I did is your opinion, you obivously saw something I didn't.

And why say Wolvie has a good chance of tagging Spidey when Spidey is faster than Wolvie to begin with? I doubt the "possibility" of something like that is high nor an issue in Spidey's mind to wrestle over.

And when Spidey is pummeling Cap to death, that means that Cap is being pummeled to death, he's not winning. That's just common sense.

And by the by, when Spidey backhanded Wolvie he did a little more than knock him down. The force actually sent him back a couple feet.

And it's not like Wolvie WASN'T trying to hurt Spidey, they both were obviously past the point of talking.

Don't even bother to acknowledge wolverine888888888888's inane rambling because he never knows what the hell he's talking about. If Spidey is fighting them all at once it's not a contest. Also, Wolvie has fought Spidey with his claws out, Spidey dodges them. For the billionth time, Wolverine is vastly overrated.

YEAH YOU GOT ME RIGHT THERE! Spidey can take any of them out one by one!

Am I the only person who actually read the IG?
when Logan popped out behind Thanos and buried his claws in his chest, Thanos looks at him and smiles. Then it was said that one of the key strategies was for Logan to have taken him out. When Logan was standing on the rooftop with Hulk and Thor, he said that he knew he was the only one who would have the guts to kill him off no one else.
Furthermore who tell me that a guy who is Hitler reicarnated is not a threat????Are you joking me? So maybe WWII wasn't a threat either right Linkalicious??? Sabertooth isn't a threat right, a deranged psychopathic killer with enhanced abilities AND with military training.NO those guys aren't a threat!!!! Dude and I am trying to be polite here but just shut your mouth.

So you're drawing a comparison to a comic character and an actual real world event in order to prove your point.

Yah, Sabretooth and Redskull are real threats to world domination. 😉
Has Sabretooth ever even done anything of significance? Yah, he's shown some prowess in hand to hand combat...but what comic book character hasn't. Either of those character would still get trashed against Doc Ock.

I recommend someone takes their own advice about shutting their mouth.

Are you serious???
Where the hell do u think the whole Redskull idea came from. Do you know the story apparently not. Cap was fighting this guy since WWII so I am not comparing it to a real world event, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE COMIX. read a Cap book once in a while.
Furthermore for a character to be a threat he has to what show something of significance????Well how about slaughtering innocents just for the thrill of it. Is that significant enough for you??? So you are gonna tell me that you would rather meet Doc Ock in a dark alley at night instead of Sabertooth???Yeah you might wanna change your handle to "not too bright". And let me go back to Redskull, because you are saying significance right? It's all about significance for you well world domination and speerhanding the uprising of the Aryan race and Nazis are not enough of a threat for you huh???? You got balls buddy!!!

Where do you come up with all this crap? You go off on the weirdest tangents I've ever seen in my life.

Don't go explaining to me who Redskull is...I know who he is. Don't tell me to go pick up Captain America comics...I know who he is and what he is capable of..

Cap was fighting this guy since WWII so I am not comparing it to a real world event, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE COMIX.

Duh! 🙄

What happened in the real world is different than in comic books. You're comparing a world with superheroes to a world without superheroes. If Red Skull killed Captain America...then another hero would come along and save the world. In real life, if the Allies didn't defeat the Axies....then the Axies would have ruled the world. Apples and Oranges much?

Red Skull is NOT a world wide threat. He may scheme to take over the world, he may plan it out meticulously for years, take all the appropriate measures needed and in the end the fantastic four, the Avengers, or the X-men could come in and put it to a dead stop. (any one team)

Thanos with the IG was a threat. Thanos with the HotU was a threat. Apocalypse in Age of Apocalypse is a threat. Galactcus coming to earth is a threat. Onslaught was a threat.

Red Skull...is a joke.