Spiderman vs. Captain America/Daredevil/Wolverine

Started by jinzin244 pages

"Wouldn't make much difference."

so you think that spidey would be able to beat DD in pitch black, or wolverine in a jungle? esp. after spidey aleady admitted to being way out of his element when fighting venom in the same kind of environment?

"Like Spider-Man beating a herald of Galactus ? Or hurting (and more than once humiliating) Hulk ? Or Morlun ? Or Iron Man ? Or Sandman ? Or Titania ? Or She-Hulk ?"

Have i ever denied these? I think not.

"So those claws were just for show ?"

not really, but it's not like wolverine was really trying to hurt spidey either.

actually the cap already shot down some of those "facts" not too long ago, so I digress.

the thing that strawnillahas been avoiding is proof of any of accusations of me and my arguments, comments, etc....which is different but whatever.

Originally posted by jinzin
"Wouldn't make much difference."

so you think that spidey would be able to beat DD in pitch black, or wolverine in a jungle? esp. after spidey aleady admitted to being way out of his element when fighting venom in the same kind of environment?


Primo : The Trio is not Venom (his spider-sense doesn't work with Venom)

Secundo : Spider-Man, while jumping and climbing and webslinging in some forest, more than once said that he could give Tarzan a few lessons. Yeah I know, only his words, he can say whatever he wants, but still, there's absolutely no reason to assume SM has some kind of disadvantage when he's not in NYC but in a forest or so.

actually the cap already shot down some of those "facts" not too long ago, so I digress.

Well, let's just say he tried to lol.

Originally posted by Dirty Duke
spiderman beats all three at once, easily
Easily? Dont think so. It would be an epic if he had to fight one after another though.

Again I have said that when it comes to Spidey, fanboys say absolutely anything.
I mean Spidey a dude in his early twenties against vets like Logan, Cap. Really???? When I blow my nose I get gold dablooms too.
If u wanna hear another bulls***t I'll tell you another.

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Experience is NOT a factor for any of these fighters. They have all seen more than their fair share of fights and battles.

To call Spiderman "a dude in his early twenties" is a complete joke. That's like calling Wolverine "some dude with knives for fingers."

The "dude in his early 20's" was sent to Battle World to team up with the most elite heroes in all of Marvel, Wolverine and Captain America included. Some "dude in his early twenties" better describes Night Thrasher than it does Spiderman.

The difference between the 3 in this case....Capt showed up with the Avengers, Wolverine showed up with the X-men, Spiderman showed up alone. The incredible Hulk and Magneto were the only other "heroes" to be warped to Battle Planet without some team affiliation. I'd say that's some pretty prestigious company. And incase you're wondering...yes I'm talking about Secret Wars.

Oh please you are gonna base your entire perception of Spidey based on one moment in Marvel history? Oh please give me a break already.
Spidey isn't the unstoppable force that they claim him to be. That's what he is. kid in his twenties don't like it not my problem take it up with Marvel. Secret Wars u wanna talk about that, a lot of lame asses got involved in it. Wasn't the LIZARD part of that???The lizard. You gonna toot his horn too? Storm, she's a powerhouse too right???? Please gimme a break with the Spidey crap. I heard it all!!!! And sadly enough it's the same rhetoric!!!

Yeah, without wanting to sound like a desperate fanboy, but if we look at the enemies of Spider-Man, his countless team-ups with almost every other hero and the fact he has appeared - and fought - in more comics than DD, Captain America and Wolverine together (okay not really but you get the idea), we can conclude Spider-Man is one VERY experienced cookie.

Not the best or most experienced or coolest or whatever. Nope. But still very experienced.

Is there actually anyone he hasn't fought somewhere in the past ? There will be probably a few, but not much...

No offense who kid but u are only proving my point about fanatics. Spidey is a popularity contest because everybody goes for Parker. Appearing in a bunch of guest stars doesn't qualify you as experience. I am talking about battle experience that u can actually use in a fight. Parker is Marvel's flagship character for a reason like Supes is for DC. That's a major reason why Spidey appears in most comix and finds a way to win every time, cuz the people buying the comix don't want their precious hero lose, and because Marvel is in the business of making money, well u draw the conclusion. It's all dollars and cents and making Spidey fans happy makes sense.

Originally posted by LordFear
No offense who kid but u are only proving my point about fanatics. Spidey is a popularity contest because everybody goes for Parker. Appearing in a bunch of guest stars doesn't qualify you as experience. I am talking about battle experience that u can actually use in a fight. Parker is Marvel's flagship character for a reason like Supes is for DC. That's a major reason why Spidey appears in most comix and finds a way to win every time, cuz the people buying the comix don't want their precious hero lose, and because Marvel is in the business of making money, well u draw the conclusion. It's all dollars and cents and making Spidey fans happy makes sense.

If you:
- have fought like almost every important villain in the world (at least once)
- have teamed up with almost every hero in the world (again, at least once)
- you have so much adventures you have countless series and spin-offs
- you have a truly amazing amount of enemies and have been dancing through death traps for years

=> I think we can talk about a pretty experienced person thank you very much. I don't see the fanboyism here.

And yes, I am a fan, like everyone here is a fan of some hero. There are LOTS of people Spider-Man can't handle, but the Trio here are not one of those.

Originally posted by LordFear
No offense who kid but u are only proving my point about fanatics. Spidey is a popularity contest because everybody goes for Parker. Appearing in a bunch of guest stars doesn't qualify you as experience. I am talking about battle experience that u can actually use in a fight. Parker is Marvel's flagship character for a reason like Supes is for DC. That's a major reason why Spidey appears in most comix and finds a way to win every time, cuz the people buying the comix don't want their precious hero lose, and because Marvel is in the business of making money, well u draw the conclusion. It's all dollars and cents and making Spidey fans happy makes sense.

You call Spiderman fans fanatical, while there are people on this board
who actually think Wolverine can take down Godzilla??????
A little perspective please.

If you want to go by who's comic book ben out longer it's spider-man about ten years befor Logan first should his face in the hulk comic.

Originally posted by LordFear
Oh please you are gonna base your entire perception of Spidey based on one moment in Marvel history? Oh please give me a break already.
Spidey isn't the unstoppable force that they claim him to be. That's what he is. kid in his twenties don't like it not my problem take it up with Marvel. Secret Wars u wanna talk about that, a lot of lame asses got involved in it. Wasn't the LIZARD part of that???The lizard. You gonna toot his horn too? Storm, she's a powerhouse too right???? Please gimme a break with the Spidey crap. I heard it all!!!! And sadly enough it's the same rhetoric!!!

I chose one moment in Marvel history to point out to you...I am fully capable of producing others.

I didn't claim Spiderman was an unstoppable force, I called your claim of Spiderman being some "dude in his twenties" absolute stupidity in it's highest form. It's absolutely no different than me calling Wolverine "some old guy with knives for hands." Except I don't mean that comment when I'm talking about Wolverine.

I made absolutely no mention of the bad guys involved in Secret Wars...I only mentioned the extremely prestigious cast that he was chosen to side with...

Wow, I can't believe you pointed out Storm as a weak good guy. I would have gone for Hawkeye if I had the choice. Either way, the only reason characters like Storm and Hawkeye got the invite is because they are part of the team. Name someone that works solo who isn't up to snub...

Molecule Man, Magneto, Galactcus, Dr. Doom, Dr. Octpus, the Enchantress, Hulk, the Lizard, and that Adamantium Robot (name escapes me 😮 ) all got the nod to go as individuals.

Still some pretty damn impressive company Spidey joined.

I don't care how impressive or prestigious it is. The bottom line is that he wasn't among a purely allstar cast because some of the opposition sucked. If u can produce other examples then please feel free because I could dispute every single one of them

Originally posted by Linkalicious
IMolecule Man, Magneto, Galactcus, Dr. Doom, Dr. Octpus, the Enchantress, Hulk, the Lizard, and that Adamantium Robot (name escapes me 😮 ) all got the nod to go as individuals.

Ultron 😉

Originally posted by LordFear
I don't care how impressive or prestigious it is. The bottom line is that he wasn't among a purely allstar cast because some of the opposition sucked.

Maybe I am slow, but you would care to explain that ?

do u know who the opposition was? Obviously not

You mean those softies like Absorbing Man, Lizard, Kang, Doc Ock and Ultron ? Or that weak, non-powered Molecule Man ? Oh, and I almost forgot the two biggest losers : Doom and Galactus 😉.

Originally posted by LordFear
do u know who the opposition was? Obviously not

Doctor Doom, Ultron, Galactus, The Wrecking Crew, Absorbing Man, Titania (eventually), Volcana (eventually), Lizard, Molecule Man, Enchantress, Doctor Octopus, Kang............ there may have been others but i can't remember them right now......... the good guys may not have been "all star" but they did pretty well considering what they were up against, you can now tell us how easy itit is to defeat Galactus, Molecule Man and Ultron if you like

Originally posted by LordFear
I don't care how impressive or prestigious it is. The bottom line is that he wasn't among a purely allstar cast because some of the opposition sucked. If u can produce other examples then please feel free because I could dispute every single one of them

The inexperienced dude in his twenties was right alongside our "highly experienced" friends Captain America and Wolverine in the Infinity Guantlet saga.

Dispute all day long for all I care. All you are doing is covering your ears and shaking your head because you don't want to accept the FACT. Spiderman is every bit as battle tested as Wolverine or Captain America.

And the best part is...you can't prove that Spiderman is just some kid in his twenties. True he is in his 20's...but he's not just "some kid"

The opposition in Secret Wars:

Doctor Doom, Ultron, Galactus, Molecule Man, Kang the Conquerer,
Titania, Absorbing Man, Dr. Octopus, The Wrecker, Piledriver, Thunderball,
Bulldozer, The Lizard, Enchantress, Volcana.