Could god challenge himself?

Started by Shakyamunison14 pages
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
A better question would be... how do you know that God is everything?

IMO
Because no other description of God makes any sense. The only way to have an omnipotent being is if the universe its self was God. Therefore, God is everything and more. God is all that has ever been, ever will be, including all that is not, nor ever will be.

How can you judge god? He has not been shown to exist.

I think we're just judging the human perception of god. Its contradictory.

Originally posted by Alliance
How can you judge god? He has not been shown to exist.

I think we're just judging the human perception of god. Its contradictory.

The universe dose exist, I think... 😆

I don't follow you.

Originally posted by Alliance
I don't follow you.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
IMO
Because no other description of God makes any sense. The only way to have an omnipotent being is if the universe its self was God. Therefore, God is everything and more. God is all that has ever been, ever will be, including all that is not, nor ever will be.

Under my way of thinking, even if God did not exist, it would still be part of God.

Ok, thats an interesting naturalist view of things. Its nice though, depending on where you go with it.

I don't think that view is held by many people.

Originally posted by Alliance
Ok, thats an interesting naturalist view of things. Its nice though, depending on where you go with it.

I don't think that view is held by many people.

Well, that is too bad for them. Rather there is a God or not, does not matter; what matters is are we happy? The search for God dose not lead to enlightenment, for it is a waist of time to search for what you already have.

😂 Well good!

Originally posted by Alliance
😂 Well good!

So how could God (the universe +) challenge its self? Maybe there are some things even God cannot do. 😄

Well, IYO, it can't. But it also seems that your god is fairly inatimate, therefore not really apt to challenge anything.

Originally posted by Alliance
Well, IYO, it can't. But it also seems that your god is fairly inatimate, therefore not really apt to challenge anything.

I don't worship any god or anything, so, it is not my god. I only try to define the undefinable so that I can talk and have fun.

I think existence would qualify as animate.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Quantam Physics supports your beleif Debbiejo
Yep it would......... ✅

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
WRONG....

Science has explained that Earth and all its elements, air, soil, water, magma, etc. have derived from the same Nebula which formed our Sun. This has already been sstudied and supported with loads more evidence than the Bible could ever supply you with.

No "Supreme Being" theory is necessary in this case.

Anything that Science cannot explain today will most likely be explainable tomorrow (not in a literal sense, but you get what im saying)😉

* oh... so the earth was flat then, now the earth is round... now that's a nice science you've got there... 😆 people had persecuted a scientist who stood firm in his belief that the earth is round, because all science could explain then was earth was flat... nice one... 🙄

* oh, in case you people don't know...

"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth , and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
Isaiah 40:22

* it was already there in the time of prophet Isaiah, but because people like you don't consider books from the Bible as a fact, you might believe that earth was flat in those days... 😆

NO, it was also said the "4 corners" of the earth............THE EARTH WAS SQUARE... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* oh... so the earth was flat then, now the earth is round... now that's a nice science you've got there... 😆 people had persecuted a scientist who stood firm in his belief that the earth is round, because all science could explain then was earth was flat... nice one... 🙄

* oh, in case you people don't know...

"It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth , and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:"
Isaiah 40:22

* it was already there in the time of prophet Isaiah, but because people like you don't consider books from the Bible as a fact, you might believe that earth was flat in those days... 😆

I prefer to read the term "round." Circle could be a flat disk, a circle drawing in the sand . . . . i seriously doubt that the author is referring to a round spherical object for sitting.

Originally posted by peejayd
* oh... so the earth was flat then, now the earth is round... now that's a nice science you've got there... 😆 people had persecuted a scientist who stood firm in his belief that the earth is round, because all science could explain then was earth was flat... nice one... 🙄

😆 Your argument sucks. The "earth was flat" theory was also a religous one. Science uses evidence, when Chirstianity released its death grip on Europe at the beggind of the enlightenment, then modern science began. Religion and science have only been seperated for the past century and a half or so. Until then, it was all "natural history"

This coming from Christians who claimed the Earth was the center of the universe in the face of CLEAR EVIDENCE.

Please grow up and learn what science is before you comment on it.

* your argument is... that is a piece of science back then, now you blame it on religion? you should grow up, science-fanboy... 😉

Peejayd

Where the hell are you learning your history from?

Civilization has beleive the Earth was flat for millenia before science proved otherwise. Religious people thought this AS WELL

your argument totally sucks ....

The Greeks thought the Earth was flat, this is clear in thier mythology. The Circle of Earth ? Earth is a SPHERE genuis !

Circles are FLAT.....learn some math...

Especially considering that Early Christians beleived that Earth was the center of the Universe and that Heaven or the Aether was in Space...science totally disproved that.

Science is backed up by physical evidense, more evidense than your Bible can ever come up with.

There's more fact in a science text book than there is the Bible

Originally posted by peejayd
science-fanboy... 😉

At least I know what science is. You clearly don';t knwo what it was then, you likely don't knwo what it si now.

You're a religous nutcase.

Re-read Urizens post, I would have said many of the same things.

* albeit, you all seem so generalize all religious organizations, whereas your science got flaws on itself... the earth was believed to be flat was something science accepted back then... but now science proved it otherwise... learn your history, dude... science accepted it back then, don't blame it on religion...

* another thing, if the Big Bang & Evolution was supposed to be factual, how come they are still theories? theories that you - a science nutcase - believe in... how's that? 😉