Could god challenge himself?

Started by SaTsuJiN14 pages

Originally posted by The Omega
It's like the "Could God create a stone SO heavy that he couldn't lift it?"
Yeah. its very much like that.. I think (for those that do believe) that creating the universe 'may' have been a challenge.. considering he had to take a rest on the seventh day (which is the day people are supposed to also take rest and observe the sabbath day)... but I dont know... its not like we can really comprehend the kind of power he has.. so how could we comprehend a challenge suiting of him? ( again for those that believe )

Originally posted by carnival_junkie
.... i'm not really sure why you guys really care...
but i suppose, if there was a god and he was like everyone said, infallible... nothing would be challenging for him...
so, i doubt it...

If NOTHING is challenging for him, then he would have no difficulty in creating such a difficult challenge.

Paradoxes are indeed fun!

Wow, this is a really obscure thread.

That is like asking, "If you were king of the world, could you overthrow yourself and take your own spot as ruler?"

No, he couldn't challenge himself.

Reminds me of a Koen from Zen Buddhism. A monk comes up and asks a master "If everything comes from the one, and returns to it, from where did the one come, and to where will it go?"

To which the master replied "When I was in Ch'an I bought a hempthan vest that weighed 30 ounces"

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
To which the master replied "When I was in Ch'an I bought a hempthan vest that weighed 30 ounces"

I wish I was there. 🤘

Originally posted by eleveninches
Also, how can a perfect being create anything that is imperfect. If humans are imperfect, then it is because their creator (human or divine - depending on what you believe), then their creator must also be imperfect.

Is it possible for a perfect being to create something that is imperfect. If he is perfect, he would know how to create something imperfectly, but doing so would deny his own perfectness..

I can quite easily act below my intelligence

Dear santa claus

Pliz get me lohtz ov prezzzies tunk yu grd amen

But my stupidity serves a purpose that my intellect couldn't complete.

Originally posted by Ytaker
Pliz get me lohtz ov prezzzies tunk yu grd amen

That's excessive, I mean no kid, no matter how dumb, adds that many letters to their words 😂 Still a good example though 😛

maybe he's just friggin energy

We can't comprehend anything past the potential of our minds. We speak of challenges because our existence is a challenge. Maybe there are other forms of existence out there where challenge is not the driving force of existence. We as humans live to create and overcome challenges.

According to the Bible, God has never created challenges.challenges create themselves. Most people equate Lucifer as the opposite of God. Lucifer ounce loved and served God. Could God destroy Lucifer? According to the Bible God can do anything. Maybe this proves that challenges only exist in the perspective of man. We as humans need challnges, sometimes to justify our own existence. Or maybe god himself, like us needs challenges. I really dont think we can ever comprehend somthing we dont, and cant understand. I say cant, because We as humans think and live a certain way due to our history.

God probably sat down and thought "I'll create a universe with various planets and various star systems."

He did. And now he's sitting in a bathtub like Tony Montana, monitoring all of the civilisations around the universe and infinity, pointing to the screen that says "Earth" under it and saying "You see dat J? You see da? You nefa goin back dere. Never. Does **** put you on dat cross mayn, dey kill you for tryin to help mayn. Yeah? Well **** dat mayn. Dey ****in kill themselves soon."

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
God probably sat down and thought "I'll create a universe with various planets and various star systems."

He did. And now he's sitting in a bathtub like Tony Montana, monitoring all of the civilisations around the universe and infinity, pointing to the screen that says "Earth" under it and saying "You see dat J? You see da? You nefa goin back dere. Never. Does **** put you on dat cross mayn, dey kill you for tryin to help mayn. Yeah? Well **** dat mayn. Dey ****in kill themselves soon."

-AC

😆 Holy crap that's good!!

clapping Well done 'mayn' 😉

You talkin' a me mayn? Hehehe.

Thank you.

-AC

Would a 'god' be able to committ suicide.??

Jesus let him self be crucified when he could have run or performed some miracle to free him self if he were really the son of God but decided to stay and be crucified, does that count?

If he believed himself to be the son of god, then he would have protected himself for god's sake. He would not have wanted to upset god by forcing him to watch his own son get killed. He would have put aside his masochistic tendensies and saved himself in order to stop god getting angry.

I dont see how jesus believed that he was saving mankind. If he believed that he was the son of god, then he should have thought that letting humans kill him would make god even more angry at humanity, and would end up punishing or killing them all.

Re: Could god challenge himself?

Originally posted by eleveninches
If there were a god, and he is capable of doing whatever he wants, then would he also be able to set himself a task that would be challenging for him, and would be difficult for him to do. If he is capable of doing anything, then he would be able to instantaniously solve the puzzle and complete the challenge, but if he can do ANYTHING, then he could be able to create a puzzle for himself that even he could not easily solve.

What are your thoughts???

i guess He could. but my question is why would He want to?

Originally posted by eleveninches
If he believed himself to be the son of god, then he would have protected himself for god's sake. He would not have wanted to upset god by forcing him to watch his own son get killed. He would have put aside his masochistic tendensies and saved himself in order to stop god getting angry.

I dont see how jesus believed that he was saving mankind. If he believed that he was the son of god, then he should have thought that letting humans kill him would make god even more angry at humanity, and would end up punishing or killing them all.

your kidding right? I mean really

Re: Re: Could god challenge himself?

Originally posted by Nazgulinthedark
i guess He could. but my question is why would He want to?

LOL