Thor vs Doomsday

Started by olympian14 pages

"These are the most ridiculous statements of all time. Thor is stronger than Hulk? "

Same class of strenght, thats what the comics show.

"Thor doesn't possess the Odinforce or Runes anymore"

When Thor was last seen he was somewhat of a cosmic being. We dont know how he is now, but he didnt trew away any of the power he had in that storyline.

"false not any of them can kill DD"

Destroyer or Thanos or Celestials couldnt defeat Doomsday?

Of these id say Thanos has the least chance against the most powerful Doomsday, but even he would win against some versions, like the high marvel beings and top tier.

Not winning at all, its wrong.

"Not even the energy at the end of the universe could do it. And that is the greatest energy there is. DD was only trapped there"

In that particular story he was slatted as dead. We saw him smashed by the force of the entropy.

How did they explained his comeback btw?

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor can hold his own against doomsday, thor has face down mangog, destroyer, kurse, demolisher, midgard serpent, ulik who surpass doomsday in power and abilities.

Doomsday will have the advantage in strength from the beging but then thor will throw on the mystic armor and the belt of strength which make him more stronger than before surpassing doomsday. Thor speed is his advantage in battle his figthing speed, reflexs are very uderrated remember he is warrior born he is not your average god he will fight to the end.

Can doomsday take a godforce blast, hell no. Thor hammer is the key in battle, it will do some serious damage to doomsday inflicting great bodly damage this the same hammer that destroyed a planet with one hit from the hammer.

Even doomsday will fill pain and in time will buckle under the power of thor's hammer, also thor ccan release his godly energies like he did against Durok who die in battle fighting thor in Ragnarok and Durok is more powerful than thor and doomsday.

Thor 7/10

Only true fans of thor can't see the truth. How can thor withstand a furry of Doomsday attacks (Superman barely could, Darkseid and all others couldn't). He's too fast (flashlike speed) and powerful. His durability is only a 5 where Hulk's a 6 and Superman's is maybe a 7. Never go on who a character has faced before. Only look at the matchup at hand, and try to simulate a truthful view of how the battle should or would go. Thor wouldn't be able to summon the Godforce. DD's style is to kill and kill fast. DD doesn't wait for Thor to pray and summon the Godforce. Also, there is another great evidence that you are a fan of Thor because you assumed DD can't withstand the Godforce. All the evidence in D.C. and Marvel comics support that he can. There is no evidence anywhere that shows DD being overcome by any energy. For you to assume that is ridiculous.

Originally posted by h1a8
Average Asgardian men can lift 30 tons. Thor is a hybrid and is officially listed to lift 80-100 tons (Nowhere near 250,000 tons). Also, this serpent did not weight half the earth. Thus by lifting the serpent has two explanations: Either Thor received outside assistance of some kind or the writer was terrible inconsistent (happens all the time, especially in the past) with Thor's true strength. Thor's durability is less than Hulk's which is less than Superman's. Doomsday penetrated Superman easily. Thus he will kill Thor in seconds. And don't say that Thor won't get hit. He has gotten hit by many many slower foes. DD is immune to all energy projection (including magic) and nearly all concussive force. Doomsday can give Thor 2 hours of free hits and still be standing.

The 100 ton has NEVER worked as a limit; they always say "in excess of 100 tons." Upper limit of Thor's strength never truly been measured, but has lifted mass equivelent to the weight of the world ( Midgard Serpent), and a white dwarf star (Surtur's sword, Twilight). Durability goes beyond standard Asgardian, because of the power from his mother , the Earth Goddess Gaea. If he wasn't, standard punches from Superman, Wonder Man and Hulk would cripple him right there. Can be faster than a blur at h2h, spinning his hammer for attack or for defense. As far as the Superman comparisons, Dan Jurgens says Thor has more power overall, because of mjolnir and magic.
The question is, does killing Doomsday once count as a win? He comes back, adapted. Superman slugged all out with him first time, because he didn't know anything about him, and there wasn't any second strategy for him. With Thor, he might see Doomsday keeps coming even after repeated hits with mjolnir and lightning, and would pull out something new. If even Godblast wouldn't kill DD, then Thor would just teleport him away like he did the Destroyer once, but make it a Black Hole. He will realize there is no soul inside DD for him to hold back - like he's done with Hulk, because of Banner. But Thor better make his decisions quickly, because DD can bust you up quick.

If thor gets godforce, strength belts, and all such magical enhancments, then it's only fair he fights the most powerful doomsday seeing as DD has no toys. Gog wars doomsday ripped through thousands of gog clones (who go their kicks by running about time killing superman over and over). Superman grabbed thors hammer and beat him unconcious in a cannon JLA/Avengers crossover. Doomsday kills superman, then he turns around and butchers thousands of things that killed superman. So by the transitive property, DD turns thor into a smear on his fist.

My spelling is terrible....

Coupla comments

First off: Thor vs Hulk. To my knowledge this has mostly been punching fights, brute strength, wherein Hulk has the advantage. I can't imagine that Thor, given how (eg) he "hurt" Galactus (and IMO That's a bit bogus), could not take Hulk if he used, truly, the full range of all his abilities.

Now Thor vs DD: I kinda see this going somewhat similar to Supes and DD. Thor is gonna have his hands full and may not (or he may, depending on what PIS writers wanna pull) beat DD at first. But in the end, I think Thor fights smart(er) and beats DD.

Thor always had the raw power to deal with Hulk. He always prefer tho to fight him on his terms. he didnt even until today as far as i know used his skills to get the advantage.

Thor looses against Hunter Prey Doomsday !!!!!!!!!

Sure he can hurt Doomsday, but i dont think he can take the punnishment, for long !

hmmmm....is bfr discounted in this battle or something?

Originally posted by olympian
Thor always had the raw power to deal with Hulk. He always prefer tho to fight him on his terms. he didnt even until today as far as i know used his skills to get the advantage.

From what I've seen (eg, In Heroes Reborn, Hulk* absolutely clobbering Thor into unconsciousness), and what I've researched (at best, Thor and Hulk have come to stalemates), Hulk seems to be Thor's raw-power superior; so I can't say I agree with the above.

*And from what I've read on sites, Heroes Reborn Hulk is not significantly more powerful than Savage Hulk, contrary to what some KMC members have stated. Perhaps Heroes-Reborn Thor was not "all that."

"From what I've seen (eg, In Heroes Reborn, Hulk* absolutely clobbering Thor into unconsciousness), and what I've researched (at best, Thor and Hulk have come to stalemates), Hulk seems to be Thor's raw-power superior; so I can't say I agree with the above."

Heroes reborn Thor wasent the real deal. It was all created by Franklin Richards.

Thor has stalemates against Hulk and one ko like Hulk have against him. There is only one fight with a younger Thor where in the end he was more battered and hurt than Hulk was. Same category of strenght unless Hulk gets really off the charts.

Raw -power- goes all the way for Thor. He doesnt even need the hammer to use what he has.

If this is Hunter-Prey Doomsday, the most powerful one, then Thor gets his belt of strength, iron gloves, and Asgardian armour.

see this

read this

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard/WZ20051111-lms.cfm

Thats pretty much the ONLY way Thor can pull of a win.
He had trouble with a slow, wisecrackign Juggernaut.
DD will wipe the floor with him.

Boy i forgot i statrted this! They shld make this a mini!!!

Originally posted by joesha28
read this

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazines/wizard/WZ20051111-lms.cfm

So...doomsday wins.

Originally posted by cheap cabbage
So...doomsday wins.

HP DD wins. The DD Superman fought gets his ass beat.

Originally posted by cheap cabbage
So...doomsday wins.

Dude, Thor cld survive this match...get a default win. But the problem here is Thor did not go all out like he did in Raknorak.

The following is by a true Thor fan who has experienced most of the Thor history (comics, shows, novels, etc.)

"As with most "humanized" versions of divine beings (i.e.mythological gods), Thor is not without his foibles in both physical and personality traits. Though being a 'god', Thor can be defeated by 'mundane' means. Early on, Thor's skin has been established as able to be punctured or lacerated by high-powered firearms. Concussive force has been shown or established to injure and eventually knock him unconscious or have fatal results (such as the hammering blows of the Hulk). That said, Thor has survived a direct strike from a nuclear weapon without undue effect. So in conclusion, Thor is known to be and established as being very resistant to energy projection and not so much to concussive force."

With the above being said, the outcome of the battle is then obvious.
DD wins!!!!

Note : Teleporting DD is not technically a win even if Thor finds time to pull it off (I don't think DD would just idly stand around but be on top of Thor like white on rice). Teleporting someone is similar to running from the battle and not actually defeating the opponent.