Originally posted by Kento
Superman feared him after he had killed him. He didn't really fear him the first time he fought.And of course Thor fears nobody he thinks he's all high and might cause he's a god. To bad confidence isn't his power. <b>He'd beat anybody at any time</b>.
That's what i'm saying
seriously. i recall dan jurgens saying the only reason thor would ever hope to edge out superman is because of the magic. But in his opinion superman outclasses thor in terms of sheer strength times over and he was a writer for both titles.
And what the hell do you mean DD hardly ever uses his speed in battle? have you ever read any comics where DD fights? or do you just read about him on the net? DD's speed surprises almost everyone he goes up against cause everyone assumes his size means he'll be slow. Thor has what it takes to take out doomsday once maybe twice, but he'll need a bit of luck to succeed. If he's coaxed into a brawl with doomsday, he'll lose for sure.
Originally posted by joesha28
DD is fast i admit, but hardly uses his speed in battle. Thor faced Set, when toe to toe with Atum (a god more powerful than zeus and odin put together). Scared off Galactus. Cracked a Celestial armor. All those fight Thor faired well, he won some too. DD is nowhere this guys. Thor will win it. Superman feared while fighting DD but Thor's courage is officially stated, second to none.
Using who fought who in comics is fallacious. Writers are terribly inconsistent (especially in the past). The main point is Thor has gotten hit by many many slower moving foes. His durabililty is lower than Hulk's (listed everwhere by marvel) which is lower than Superman's. But superman was penetrated by Doomsday (sometimes all the way through) easily. Doomsday is immune to all energy projection (including magic) and an astronomical amount of physical force. This is a fact. One has to explain how Thor can hurt Doomsday let alone explain how Thor can withstand Doomsday's might. DD wins in seconds period
Originally posted by joesha28
Marvel uses the class system to classify the characters. Class 100 is the the limit for Thor, Hulk. Both has shown to lift more than 100 tons. Hulk lifted a 150 billion ton mountain in secret wars. Thor lifted part of the midgard serpent, which was the weight of the planet earth.So Thor could match Superman's max 250 000 ton. To say supes stronger than Thor and Hulk 2500x is wrong. Hulk has the potential to exceed supes' and Thor will increase 10x in warrior madness, shows they are capable to beat Supes.
There is also "Incalculable" in Marvel strength system. Both those are for cosmic and we don see any earth heros there.
Put them in the canyon or somewhere rural and Thor will beat DD at least 3/4 of the time. I see that Thor will lose only if he becames cautious of the harm he might cause if he goes wild in battle.
Average Asgardian men can lift 30 tons. Thor is a hybrid and is officially listed to lift 80-100 tons (Nowhere near 250,000 tons). Also, this serpent did not weight half the earth. Thus by lifting the serpent has two explanations: Either Thor received outside assistance of some kind or the writer was terrible inconsistent (happens all the time, especially in the past) with Thor's true strength. Thor's durability is less than Hulk's which is less than Superman's. Doomsday penetrated Superman easily. Thus he will kill Thor in seconds. And don't say that Thor won't get hit. He has gotten hit by many many slower foes. DD is immune to all energy projection (including magic) and nearly all concussive force. Doomsday can give Thor 2 hours of free hits and still be standing.
Originally posted by jinzin
seriously. i recall dan jurgens saying the only reason thor would ever hope to edge out superman is because of the magic. But in his opinion superman outclasses thor in terms of sheer strength times over and he was a writer for both titles.
And what the hell do you mean DD hardly ever uses his speed in battle? have you ever read any comics where DD fights? or do you just read about him on the net? DD's speed surprises almost everyone he goes up against cause everyone assumes his size means he'll be slow. Thor has what it takes to take out doomsday once maybe twice, but he'll need a bit of luck to succeed. If he's coaxed into a brawl with doomsday, he'll lose for sure.
Sure i do Jinzin, thats why i told i admit his speed. surpass supes yes! but from what i read in the issue of supes beatin DD by throwin him in that time-thingy, DD was not even using speed fifty percent of the fight. It was supes who did that.
Doomsday was created to show that the Hulk can beat Superman. Afterwards the idea made money, so they wrote some more details to make it seem like Doomsday was diferent and stronger than the Hulk. Thor will win. Ask Fin Fang Foom, Fafnir The Migard Serpent.
Thor = superhero
Doomsday = defeated by superhero.
and love thor? WTF? (scratches head)
Doomsday didn't let up on superman speedwise, did you happen to notice superman didn't want any peice of him in a head on brawl, and when he eventually did try to use brute force against doomsday, doomsday broke his arm. In hunter prey superman had to use a combination of all of his powrs just to hold DD at bay, and even that didn't work. Saying Doomsday was slow, when supes had to get a decent amount of momentum in flight to hit dd from ehind and place waverider's gaunlet on DD's shoulder spike is well, not accurate. DD doesn't have a spidersense, and he closed off his auditory canals in the middle of the fight, how the hell is his speed going to make a difference when superman attacked him from behind? It's illogical. DD uses his speed in all of his friggin fights, He pummeled guy gardner before guy had a chance to even do anything about it, he took out darkseid so fast that darkseid couldn't even defend himself, much less turn around to do so. He's fast and he uses it. And Doomsday wasn't created to show that Hulk can beat supes. Where the hell did you dream up that fantasy? doomsday was created for a single purpose and that was to sell. To combat the steadily declining comic sales that started to plumet after the early/mid 90's (or as I refer to them, the dark ages, blue and red supes, azreal, spider clones, bone claw wolverine agghhhhh! )
Originally posted by jinzin
and love thor? WTF? (scratches head)Doomsday didn't let up on superman speedwise, did you happen to notice superman didn't want any peice of him in a head on brawl, and when he eventually did try to use brute force against doomsday, doomsday broke his arm. In hunter prey superman had to use a combination of all of his powrs just to hold DD at bay, and even that didn't work. Saying Doomsday was slow, when supes had to get a decent amount of momentum in flight to hit dd from ehind and place waverider's gaunlet on DD's shoulder spike is well, not accurate. DD doesn't have a spidersense, and he closed off his auditory canals in the middle of the fight, how the hell is his speed going to make a difference when superman attacked him from behind? It's illogical. DD uses his speed in all of his friggin fights, He pummeled guy gardner before guy had a chance to even do anything about it, he took out darkseid so fast that darkseid couldn't even defend himself, much less turn around to do so. He's fast and he uses it. And Doomsday wasn't created to show that Hulk can beat supes. Where the hell did you dream up that fantasy? doomsday was created for a single purpose and that was to sell. To combat the steadily declining comic sales that started to plumet after the early/mid 90's (or as I refer to them, the dark ages, blue and red supes, azreal, spider clones, bone claw wolverine agghhhhh! )
I agree that supes got that momentum going in that fight. But i believe DD is faster than speed of light which is much faster than supes right? Then can i ask why did he not do that to beat supes
Originally posted by Linkalicious
Thor would not only get his ass kicked....he'd be killed.Doomsday would physically overpower him and then beat him to death with his protrusions.
he can always dumb him in another dimention for a easy win.
What’s the point of busting a metal door when you can open it with a switch?
Thor has fought destroyer, kurse, juggernaut, gladiator, beta ray bill, thanos, ego, adam warlock, korvac, odin, celestials, fing fang foom, silver sufer, dark gods, hela, eternals hell even fought galactus at full powered and was holding his own. If thor ever foght doomsday on a nertural battle field like asgard and can go all out unleashing his godly powers, doomsday will get his as thrash into oblivion. Thor and superman are two different beings thor is immortal has more power than superman but never really have to use it, hello he is a god but a fighting god he was fighting since he was born he has experience and wisdom from the odin force which has left him. He has the mystic armor, the belt of strength which increse his strength, he has gaunlets to wear to unleash mjolnir true powers, powers that can kill a immortal or any other beings. Doomsday is tuff but not unkillable he can die, yes he can comeback to life better than before but the piot of the matter is he can die so can thor. Thor has something that doomsday doesn't even have intellagence and common sense. I forgot to state, thor can wear the destroyer armor like he did before and use the destroyer power to kick the shit out of doomsday.
Thor wins not by alot but he wins
Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has fought destroyer, kurse, juggernaut, gladiator, beta ray bill, thanos, ego, adam warlock, korvac, odin, celestials, fing fang foom, silver sufer, dark gods, hela, eternals hell even fought galactus at full powered and was holding his own.
Who he's fought, and who he's defeated are two entirely different things.
He didn't beat Thanos, Ego, a celestial, Korvac, Odin, Galactcus, or the Silver Surfer. In fact, for a "God" I'm 100% sure than everyone I named could actually kill Thor.
If thor ever foght doomsday on a nertural battle field like asgard and can go all out unleashing his godly powers, doomsday will get his as thrash into oblivion.
I missed the part where Thor's home town could be considered "neutral"
Thor and superman are two different beings thor is immortal has more power than superman but never really have to use it, hello he is a god but a fighting god he was fighting since he was born he has experience and wisdom from the odin force which has left him.
Immortal? isn't he dead? 😕
Doomsday was created before Krypton was even an inhabitable planet. He has died thousands of times over only to be reborn time and time again with a resistance to whatever killed him most recently. Superman physically beat him to death, Doomsday came back to life and physically ruined Superman...who was enhanced by the Mother Box. That box augmented his strength and other attributes while also acting as a healing device. From the second his arm was broken by Doomsday, it was being healed. And he was STILL absolutely no match for Doomsday. Hell, earlier in the comic he beat Darkseid within an inch of his life.
He has the mystic armor, the belt of strength which increse his strength, he has gaunlets to wear to unleash mjolnir true powers, powers that can kill a immortal or any other beings.
In order for Thor to pull off his God Force blast he needs time. Against Galactcus, Galactcus did nothing to prevent him from summoning his power. Juggernaut watched as Thor called upon the heavens to create a God Force blast. And in Exitar the Executioner's brain there was NO ONE to stop, slow down, or prevent Thor from summoning his God Force in any way.
Doomsday doesn't stop for dialog. He kills and he kills fast. He single handedly beat the sh!t out of the JLA. Is that something Thor can do? No.
Doomsday's stone protrusions are also extremely poisonous. If he managed to break Thor's skin with those things....Thor would be in deep shit.
Doomsday is tuff but not unkillable he can die, yes he can comeback to life better than before but the piot of the matter is he can die so can thor. Thor has something that doomsday doesn't even have intellagence and common sense. I forgot to state, thor can wear the destroyer armor like he did before and use the destroyer power to kick the shit out of doomsday.Thor wins not by alot but he wins
nice twist to help your arguement out at the end there with the destoyer armor, but it doesn't change the fact that Doomsday would be on Thor in seconds and he wouldn't let up until Odin's son was dead.