Originally posted by darthgooberno. but cage never fought multiple upgraded versions of sabe other then his earlier versions.
Has Sabretooth's bone claws ever cut Cage before when they fought?
bone clawed Sabe was able to rip the shiva robot apart after it had fought logan and they are suppose to be adamantium resistant at the time....
bone clawed sabretooth has also injured Rogue twice when she had her Ms. Marvel durability.
His claws didnt penetrate her skin but the claws combined with his strength was still enough to hurt her and knock her out.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
no. but cage never fought multiple upgraded versions of sabe other then his earlier versions.bone clawed Sabe was able to rip the shiva robot apart after it had fought logan and they are suppose to be adamantium resistant at the time....
bone clawed sabretooth has also injured Rogue twice when she had her Ms. Marvel durability.
His claws didnt penetrate her skin but the claws combined with his strength was still enough to hurt her and knock her out.
If Jinzin says Victor can't beat Luke without adamantium, then it's pretty safe to say he can't...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah Sabretooth's been upgraded since they fought, but then again so has Cage. If he couldn't cut Cage back in the day and he couldn't cut Rogue, what makes you think he can cut Cage now unless Marvel's specifically said that his claws are stronger/sharper than they were before? The Shiva thing could be impressive(I haven't seen the feat myself to judge), but hen again if he was cutting through something that couldn't be cut through by adamantium it reaks of BS writing.If Jinzin says Victor can't beat Luke without adamantium, then it's pretty safe to say he can't...
i said adamantium resistant not immune... aside from that he still ko'ed rogue which anyway you cut is superior to cage in his most recent upgrade.
both logan and sabe tear through metal and steel easily in bone pre adamantium.. Sabretooth having superior superhuman strength should be cutting more then wolverine bone clawed version.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i said adamantium resistant not immune... aside from that he still ko'ed rogue which anyway you cut is superior to cage in his most recent upgrade.both logan and sabe tear through metal and steel easily in bone pre adamantium.. Sabretooth having superior superhuman strength should be cutting more then wolverine bone clawed version.
And Sabretooth could tear through metal back in the day too, but still wasn't able to cut through pre upgrade Cage. Unless you have proof of Sabretooth's claws now being more durable than Cage's skin, all Sabretooth's strength upgrade does is open up the possibility of Victor's claws shattering against Cage's skin. No matter how strong you are, you can't slash through a piece of steel with an iron knife because the knife is going to give first...
Sabretooth in his mini fought some russian super soldiers with adamantium resistant skin ans superhuman strength, reflex and high military fighting skills..
Sabretooth took a beaten kept on coming his adamantium claws simply left welds and small scratches so he started grappling them snapping arms. joints and necks.... this was after he was being the one having his body dislocated by them on one to one fights.
so when Sabretooth focused and started fighting smart knowing scratching biting werent doing it he was using skills and there own weight to help snap and break them... same would happen here.
Cage is what a 20 tonner that isnt sh#$ to Sabretooth and sabe can still go for the eyes and work him and break him after exhausting him in one on one.
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Sabretooth in his mini fought some russian super soldiers with adamantium resistant skin ans superhuman strength, reflex and high military fighting skills..Sabretooth took a beaten kept on coming his adamantium claws simply left welds and small scratches so he started grappling them snapping arms. joints and necks.... this was after he was being the one having his body dislocated by them on one to one fights.
so when Sabretooth focused and started fighting smart knowing scratching biting werent doing it he was using skills and there own weight to help snap and break them... same would happen here.
Cage is what a 20 tonner that isnt sh#$ to Sabretooth and sabe can still go for the eyes and work him and break him after exhausting him in one on one.
If you're saying that he can break Cage's limbs, we'll need to start comparing strength feats between the two and I'm willing to bet that Sabretooth's going to fall behind in that department. If you're using the super soldier's as proof, then what strength feats do they have to indicate that they're as strong as Cage(as having a limb broken like you're describing has more to do with strength than durability)?
And how is Victor going to exhaust him H2H if he can handle the Ironfist? Surely you don't see Sabretooth's punches as having more stopping power...
exhausting is having Cage trying to hit him while Sabretooth plays with him and just weights out his energy reserves... the best I see cage holding up is maybe an hour trying to hit and pound Sabretooth. Sabe can just keep his distance and the beating he does take he can just as easily wait it out and escape from them.. from tripping him or using grappling techniques which strength has less to do and more to do with skill.
aside from that saying luke can take the IF doesnt mean anything.. the IF he took was the old school one which was nowhere near the modern version of it and its train busting lvls.
Sabe doesnt have to rely on just brute strength and punching like i said grappling, twisting and having Cage fall on his arm and snap it with his own weight should be enough..
you dont think Cage can Ko Sabe with 20 ton lvl punches do you, what will sabe being doing standing there letting him unload on him till he succeeds?
They've fought before, did Sabretooth successfully "play with him" without getting tagged?
It may not have been train busting, but even back then it was train wrecking...
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...and Cage still took it. So I ask again, you don't really think that Sabe's punches have more stopping power do you? He's also taken shots from the Rhino, Hulk, and I don't even know who all else, so even if you somehow think that Sabretooth's punches do more damage than the Ironfist, do you really think they do more damage than someone like that?
Proof that Luke falling on his arm would break it? Do you have any idea of how rediculous that is...
Eventually yeah. The thing is that eventually Victor's healing factor would max out and Cage could KO him, but no realistic amount of punches or slashes from Sabretooth would KO Luke unless Creed has some kick ass punching feats that I'm unaware of.
Also, the true subject of our debate seems to have changed. This whole thing started because you were saying that Victor's bone claws would tear Luke up despite their being unable to in the past, what evidence do you have to support that claim?
grappling and bone breaking skills and techniques.
techno organic wings nearly as strong and durable as adamantium above steel or titanium.
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shiva shell
