luke cage vs. sabretooth

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
Cage isnt 10x stronger then sabe not even on his best day. aside from that the nervous system gun and the antman feat is pis since that is not how Lukes powerset is suppose to work at all.. and also Sabe has taken bigger falls then Cage and gotten right up...i am talking falls from planes low atmosphere type sh#$...
either way Lukes inside arent that Tough and shouldnt be. his Upgrade wasnt his internal durability but his actual strength lvl.. even if we assume his insides are tougher now it wasnt enough all it did was allow him to not get ko'ed and he struggled from the blast anyways..

figured the sabe cage fight was the early version of sabe b4 his retcons and added abilities b4 he was turned into a wolverine foe.

Cage has also had a bomb go off inside his stomach I believe, so it's not like it's the only time his insides have been portrayed as being super durable. His organs aren't as durable as his skin just as your's and mine aren't, but they're far more durable than those of the average man.

I never said Sabretooth hadn't taken bigger falls, I was pointing out one of several reasons it's rediculous to think that Cage's arm could be broken by him falling on it.

Proof that his insides AREN'T super durable to counter the direct evidence that they are? I know it's not normally cool to ask for proof of a negative, but without it you're basically just imposing your own idea of what you think the character SHOULD be capable of, and that's hardly a reflection on what he IS capable of. And him resisting an attack like that(and the bomb I brough up earlier) is simply proof that his insides are super durable, what proof do you have from the super soldier's to indicate that they could survive the same?

i never claimed their insides werent super durable just as likely resistant compared to their strength minus the skin density..

Cage on the other hand has bn severely injured from blunt trauma needing surgery in order to repair him even IF has had to Use his chi on him as well to fix him..

doctors have only needed adamantium scalpel or even high lasers to open him up once open his inisdes or no more durable then maybe a enhanced person but nothing doctors cant operate on with standard tools.. aside from that his powerset itself claim his limits and abilities which those scans comic feats ignored.

aside from that it doesnt matter how strong a person is individually if a person lands wrong their own strength, leverage, gravity and physical limits will take care of the rest... especially when a person rips tears or hyper extent their own joints... it isnt that hard to grasp nor im[possible it happens all the time and various heroes have done that to guys far above luke cages strength and at time durability... spider fighting Hyde springs to mind when he webbed him just the right angle leaving Hyde vulnerable and worried of injuring himself with his own strength weight and leverage he was afraid not to move..

oops my bad it was Scorpion but my point still stands.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i never claimed their insides werent super durable just as likely resistant compared to their strength minus the skin density..

Cage on the other hand has bn severely injured from blunt trauma needing surgery in order to repair him even IF has had to Use his chi on him as well to fix him..

doctors have only needed adamantium scalpel or even high lasers to open him up once open his inisdes or no more durable then maybe a enhanced person but nothing doctors cant operate on with standard tools.. aside from that his powerset itself claim his limits and abilities which those scans comic feats ignored.

aside from that it doesnt matter how strong a person is individually if a person lands wrong their own strength, leverage, gravity and physical limits will take care of the rest... especially when a person rips tears or hyper extent their own joints... it isnt that hard to grasp nor im[possible it happens all the time and various heroes have done that to guys far above luke cages strength and at time durability... spider fighting Hyde springs to mind when he webbed him just the right angle leaving Hyde vulnerable and worried of injuring himself with his own strength weight and leverage he was afraid not to move..

oops my bad it was Scorpion but my point still stands.

So doctor's need either an adamantium scalple or high intensity lasers to cut Cage... kinda blows Sabretooth cutting Cage without adamantium claws all to Hell doesn't it? Anyway, you want to compare the number of times his insides have been portrayed as less than super durable to the number of times they've been portrayed as being so? I'll start fetching scans if you will...

If Hyde was tangling with Spidey, I'm willing to bet that it was far from his best showings as far as durability goes. After all, Hyde's level fluctuate's as much as anyone's and more than most. You keep on coming up with these people who lack Cage's extensively fleshed out feats of all around durability as if they're relevant to Cage but I'm afraid that's not the case.

And if you mean it was Scorpion not Hyde, it REALLY doesn't prove you're point as Scorpion doesn't even have Hyde's high end durability feats going for him.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

aside from that it doesnt matter how strong a person is individually if a person lands wrong their own strength, leverage, gravity and physical limits will take care of the rest... especially when a person rips tears or hyper extent their own joints... it isnt that hard to grasp nor im[possible it happens all the time and various heroes have done that to guys far above luke cages strength and at time durability... spider fighting Hyde springs to mind when he webbed him just the right angle leaving Hyde vulnerable and worried of injuring himself with his own strength weight and leverage he was afraid not to move..

oops my bad it was Scorpion but my point still stands.

facepalm

Sabertooth isn't cutting Luke Cage. Definitely not with his regular claws. Under Bendis, in the Avenger's there was apparently doubt that Wolverine with his Adamantium claws could cut Cage when they met. His gotten a pretty decent push. Luke Cage is like Bendis' pet.

Sabertooth might be able to wear him down with his blows etc. but I personally don't see it happening or him hurting Cage much right now. His definitely faster and more skilled but eventually he has to come in close and Bendis Cage puts him out of his misery.

Luke Cage is an alright character, but man, someone needs to tell Bendis just "no". Enough of Cage, and Spider-Woman etc. These characters no one actually gives a shit about from what I've seen. Not when characters like Wonderman need a push, and have pretty decent potential. We get it Bendis, his black, he talks smack and he doesn't need a uniform.

This fight would last forever.

then Cage would tire out and it be over for cage 😖hifty:

lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i wont butch, even with ppl trying to suggest his durability is a lot higher then it once was and even trying to insinuate he maybe resistant to adamantium. 😎

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i wont budge,

It just shows how dense you are, theres nothing admirable about it. Not sure if anybody was REALLy trying to say hes adamantuim resistant just that he might be.

it has nothing to do with one's density on a subject but willingness to share one's opinion and let others know that is how he views it. aside from that i am fully aware of Cage's abilities and it doesnt change my opinion which is just as valid as anyone elses.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
it has nothing to do with one's density on a subject but willingness to share one's opinion and let others know that is how he views it. aside from that i am fully aware of Cage's abilities and it doesnt change my opinion which is just as valid as anyone elses.

Its up to you to decide what you want to think but the logic you use is pretty hilarious (Comparing scorpion to Luke for starters) any credible debator can see that. Im just too tired to point it out in detail. Assuming you're always right doesn't make you a genuis anybody can do that.

Originally posted by Deadline
Its up to you to decide what you want to think but the logic you use is pretty hilarious (Comparing scorpion to Luke for starters) any credible debator can see that. Im just too tired to point it out in detail. Assuming you're always right doesn't make you a genuis anybody can do that.