Bush has won for the second term!!!

Started by kingcoot44 pages

I am a good person. That is all I can do. I can't take my gun and kill negative thinking people, so I'm trying to show them how I am, and then I see them treat other people better. I've seen it. There is no debate on how being a good person can change people to be good.

Sounds cheesy (maybe a little geigh), but it works.

You have a pattern of referring to your gun as a solution to many different problems and fears. I find that disturbaing.

I also find it odd that you neglet to see the obvious racist and even xenophobic attitude that seems to be growing in the united states. It may warm your heart to believe that things are perfect for you in Iowa (which having visited Iowa I know not to be true), but at some point you have to realize that to solve a problem you have to first acknowledge it.

..or just claim that you ARE solving it😂
just take a heap of dillusion and throw in a dash of denial 😂

Maybe I am solving it and you just don't like to believe it.

#1 I referred to not using my gun.
#2 You assume I ignore problems.
#3 I find that you neglect to read every word I type.
#4 I'm not a statistic you find on the tv.
#5 Iowa has problems in the Urban areas.

Are all people who like Kerry this negative all the time?
I do need to cheer both of you up, because it sounds like you are about to cry and sing a sad song.

Originally posted by kingcoot
Are all people who like Kerry this negative all the time?

Nope. I'm not going to be negative at all. These four years will give the dems the time to regroup and re-establish a sensible yet attractive platform. We will maintain our support from the left, but we will also show the moderates that the Republican party is nothing but big business with a Christ™ label taped-on. Four years will give us time to show America that regardless of the "morals and values" that Republicans brag about, abortions will decrease under the dems, healthcare will improve under the dems, the economy will improve with the dems, our standing in the world will improve with the dems, and therefore America will be safer with dems in office. We will show the people of this country that the Republicans will never overturn Roe V. Wade, they will never get their Constitutional Ban on Gay marriage, and they will never do anything but take advantage of those who voted on moral issues. These coming years will give ample time for us to establish the same kinds of Think-tanks that the republicans created when they re-grouped in the 80s to bring the "Moral Majority" into power. We shall overcome this setback, and we will not stand down.

The experts say that John Kerry has a guaranteed auto re-election to the Senate until the day he dies, and he will become a much more powerful voice in the democratic party. We'll soon be getting a new chairman in the DNC, and a new Minority leader for the Senate which will both work towards new and more organized goals. We will continue to embrace people like Howard Dean, and we will prove that people like him are not "dangerous" individuals.

I don't fear the Republican party. Instead, I embrace the Democratic party (and this is the first time I've done it, too).

Get ready for the power of positive thinking, personified by our growing determination and influence. It will be an uphill battle, but in the end, the good guys always win. 😄 We will educate the uninformed and teach them to think for themselves instead of following the dogma that their parents installed into their brains at their youth. They will make up their own minds, and intelligent decision-making will make a comeback in this country.

(This was a twinkie-induced post, but I stand by my words 😛)

^^^^

and pay attention to the map in his sig. TRUTH

Originally posted by kingcoot
Maybe I am solving it and you just don't like to believe it.

#1 I referred to not using my gun.
#2 You assume I ignore problems.
#3 I find that you neglect to read every word I type.
#4 I'm not a statistic you find on the tv.
#5 Iowa has problems in the Urban areas.

Are all people who like Kerry this negative all the time?
I do need to cheer both of you up, because it sounds like you are about to cry and sing a sad song.

1-oh wonderful. kingkoot building a better tomorrow 🙄

2-and this means you are solving problems? does that belong in your list of how you are solving problems?

3-well, you are acting self centered, as you refuse to read the entierty of anyone ELSES posts, as you also ignorant as to openly saying you refused to read an AP article because it wasnt blowing hot air into the bush administration. just a propaganda junkie i guess?

4-further down the "ME" tangent...i thought this was supposed to be a list of how you solve problems? but i guess that i AM a statistic, as you suggest over and over. ever hear the old saying about glass houses and throwing stones?

5-once again...how the hell does this suggest you are solving problems.

but lets just assume that you changed the purpose of your list...so i MUST ask...what's the pattern? how do we get from you not using your gun...to me supposedly neglecting your posts...to there being ghettos in iowa (i cant help but chuckle when i put those two words together..."IOWA MOTHERF*****!!! REPRESENT!!!"😉

so wtf is the pattern here?

I wasn't listing how I solve problems.. I was listing what KharmaDog should have pulled from my posts.

Like I've said, people tend to hog pile. 2 or 3 or 4 against me. Right.

One thing you spend alot of time on is criticizing. I didn't come here to point out that your criticisms are pretty much backed by news, all of which is not history yet.

The map is truth? It is color. Who cares which colors stands for what? In 1984 blue was Reagan.

When I mean I'm not using my gun, that was only showing that I'm non-violent, and I can have a gun and not be violent. There is no other reason. You LOVE to criticize people. You live for it. It really shows up on every post no matter who you are debating.

I ignore the parts of your post that take my comments where I did not intend them to go. You take my posts and flip them upsidedown and run with it. I won't go chasing you down as you run with nonsense.

so, if you go out and beat people's heads in with a tire iron, you are not violent because you left your gun at home? wtf are you trying to say?

and you are the one who insists on making this debate all about you, so be ready to take some shots and quit your crying, ok?

not that you havent managed to neutralise all points made here by distracting everyone with your rambling about your 300 roommates and your guns and how george lucas is a part of you and how you respect gay people in the same way as you respect a man's right to mount a barn animal 😂

PVS, you proved my point exactly. You are running with a point I didn't intend. I said, "there is no other reason". If you don't know what Non-violent is, you have a long ways to go yet before you understand anyone.

LOL... actually that last part of your post was funny.

When I said Lucas is a part of me, that is saying when I watch starwars, I take meaning from it that really does have bearing on how conflicts can be avoided. "Don't focus on the negative" "Keep your concentration here and now where it belongs"... there are quite a few one liners.

I never intended to "move the debate to me". I was speaking for myself to show what I believe and how I differ from your image of a republican, whatever that is supposed to mean (you can run with the dragons if you want on that but that isn't intended for a debate).

ok then i posted this before the topic spiraled off into tangent land:

Originally posted by PVS
who said im depressed?

look, too many people have this attitude like "its over, get over it"

no, this is not the same as when the yankees choked in the american league series and everyone just said "oh well...better luck next year" this is not the end, its the beginning. the beginning of 4 long years of muslims being murdered by the hundreds of thousands and tension from such leading to more attacks on our troops...and possibly on us citizens...another 4 years of the routine invasion of civil liberies which our forfathers put in place for a REASON,
four years of listening to redneck tough talk of "we aint afraid of no terrorists" and then seeing the same pseudo-macho idiots turn around and beg to have their liberty taken away so they can feel safer (pussies) and a gleeful adminisration answering their call without hesitation. perhaps 'patriot act 3'?

another 4 years of an unusually elevated amount of paranoia, fear, racism, and religious bigotry everywhere i look. another four years of the useless and counterproductive "terror alert" to scare the american public into submission.
four years of complete uncertainty, forcing big business to hold back on their investments due to a volatle market, causing yet more loss of jobs, or if we are LUCKY, a simple lack of jobs...except we can still work at walmart cant we?

and what the hell, since you seem to take lessons from star wars, let me point this out from the OS, palpatine's profile:

"He added amendments to the constitution funneling more power to him, effectively circumventing the bureaucracy of the Senate.

The public and the Senate willingly gave up their rights and freedoms in the name of security. Under Palpatine's guidance, the war would be won, and the Republic would be safe. "

hmmmmm did you catch a whiff of ben franklin's warning in there concerning libery and safety? are you SURE lucas voted for bush?

but anyway, back to topic, right?

I can't help you if you need to have a job you want and you want it right away. No one really can. This is a real world. There are alot of factors that go into employment. Employment can be increased when everyone gets a tax break for one. You can't have a job if there is no one with enough money to pay you for what you are doing.

There also has to be a need for what you are doing. Is there a REAL need for what you do? If there isn't a real need, then you might be really out of luck.

As far as the Terror alerts, I laugh at it, but people did want to know what threats were coming in. People sorta asked to get warned so 911 doesn't happen again. What is the president supposed to do? Should he know exactly how, when, where, and how many are involved when all he sees is they are planning an attack because of some movements of people? I think you ask President Bush to pull some magic out of his rear. I don't know WHAT you would expect Kerry to do, but they are both not superhumanbeings.

I know you might not get over the election right away, but after a year of being sore about it, you might consider just trying to relax and not get bent out of shape just because nearly 59.2 million people voted for Bush.

As far as racism, I don't believe the president is racist. If you think he is, that is your opinion, but until you meet him you really won't know for sure. I know racism is a problem and I see it 1 in 20 people that I'm around. The changes in society take many decades, so we have to keep helping each other on correcting how they are treating people. Does that help?

So you have no problem with the Patriot Act Kingcoot? And you don't recognize the irrational fear that has gripped your country and has been reenforced by bush's administration?

^^^^

right, coot COMPLETELY missed the point.

and no coot, my job is not obsolete and will never be obsolete, until perhaps computers can think creatively...then i am in trouble.

I don't know whether Coot misses the point, or avoids the point.

He goes off on a tangent to make a separate point, and when you go after that he dodges again.

pretty much. 🙄

As far as the war on terror, it isn't against the trade federation, it is against people that believe they should kill Americans for being free.
If this threat is real, then it won't mean anything to have liberty if we end up getting killed. You are assuming that people will get investigated even if they aren't terrorists. It is an assumption. Can you wait for events to happen before you start to get hyper about what might happen if this this and this happens?

I never said Lucas voted Bush. ... I was telling you about partially where I get the structure for resolving conflicts. You like to add words to everyone's comments. Don't you see it? You were the one that took off with my paragraph. It was never meant to say Lucas Directly voted for Bush.

Lucas made the movie after Vietnam. This is not vietnam. At all. In vietnam, we didn't get attacked in NYC. In Vietnam we lost more than 100 people per day. American soldiers are effectively protecting Americans since the terrorists are really trying to kill American soldiers.

Iraqis civilians killed? Not on purpose. Leaflets are dropped telling civilians to move from military targets (recently). What about Osama? Those pilots driving planes looked like direct attacks on civilians.

"If this threat is real, then it won't mean anything to have liberty if we end up getting killed."

spoken like a true sheep.
we're gonna die!!!! take my freedom!!!! keep me safe!!!!!!!

sad, really sad.

PVS and KharmaDog, you both sound like the Media. Exactly like the Media. And the Media is not always right. In fact, we are told not to believe what we hear on TV until it is confirmed. The Media wants information before it happens. That is never a good thing.

What liberties do you feel are being taken from you personally right now? I really need to know.