Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Are you crazy? Batman would be dead before he even has a chance to come up with anything. And I'm sick and tired of people implying Carnage is superior to Venom. READ THE FRIGGIN FIGHTS! Venom beats Carnage 9 times out of 10, he's just better, that's all there is to it.
How do you figure Venom is more powerful then Carnage. It was stated in Venom Carnage#3(Venom gets beat by Carnage in that series too) that the symbiots are always evolving with each new generation of sybiot that is why Carnage has everything Venom has and more and then Carnages son( Toxic) is even stronger than Carnage. If im correct they have fought like 3 times and every time it took both Spiderman and Venom to beat Carnage. The only time i can think of when Venom did beat Carnage one on one is when he was using a sonic gun in Maximum Carnage which was pretty pussy of him.
No, he beat the hell out of Carnage in Maximum Carnage with no help. The only time Spidey and Venom really teamed up was the first appearance of Carnage. Venom didn't get beat in that series, and again, he ATE Carnage. Why is everyone ignoring that concept? When Venom destroys the Carnage symbiote *it came back of course* he wins. That's a win, any way you look at it.
Originally posted by wrathofachilles
No, he beat the hell out of Carnage in Maximum Carnage with no help. The only time Spidey and Venom really teamed up was the first appearance of Carnage. Venom didn't get beat in that series, and again, he ATE Carnage. Why is everyone ignoring that concept? When Venom destroys the Carnage symbiote *it came back of course* he wins. That's a win, any way you look at it.
Carnage ate every symbiote on the planet of the symbiotes. Your point?
this is rape, u might as well have batman face gladiator (oh no! he'll miraculously figure out his weakness too and have a cuck load of mysterious rdiation in his belt............) Venom and carnage......if there is nething heavy around, venom will simply throw it at bats, who won't be able to dodge cause he's no where near fast enough Spidey barely dodges stuff. And Carnage....if he gets a hold of bats (no problem), it's an extra slow and painful death cause of funny pointy ears and underwear worn on the outside.......oh and black blue and yellow dont mix.
Batman would be killed instantly. Spidey has trouble keeping up with them. There is no way in hell for Bats to escape them. .....keep them at bay....with what a batarang???? maybe he could escape with a jet flying by to pick him up, but thats if black and red don't jump on the plane, tear it to pieces, and kill him there.
No, Batman could definitely keep them at bay long enough to escape. He's very acrobatic and has an array of tools at his disposal at any given time. So yes, a Batarang, or more accurately a few dozen of them thrown 3 at a time, not to forget an array of gas pellets, grappling hooks and most of the other dozen items he usually caries.
If this was a Batman vs. Venom or Batman vs. Carnage thread, I'd be argueing victory. I am not argueing victory. I just insist you give Batman the credit he deserves.
Bat's gets all the respect he deserves. but he would not beat either in a fight. not a straight forward fight anyhow.
with time he could divies a way. but Venom alone would destroy him. He could disguies himself as superman walk up to him and snap his neck.
he has class 11 strength wich dwarfs Bat's, speed he will not be able to keep up with and a Spidersense adapt enuf to doge anything Bat's throws at him.
gas pellets? Venom has used the symbiote too alter his breathing so much he passed for a corpse, giving him clean air is not that big of a challenge
Carnage would anihilate him.
just look at the foes Bat's has trouble defeating. Killer Croc? Bane? Venom would break them in half on a whim.
C'mon vs threads for the most part are generally stupid, Batman is obviously an Icon and Im not saying he cant beat anyone, I belive batman could take on Wolverine, DareDevil, Punisher with his phsyical prowess alone and if he put thought into it he would make them look like fools.
but in a straight fight he will not beat either Venom or Carnage.