Venom and Carnage vs. Batman

Venom and Carnage would own Batman.

Great logic, swift.

I'm really the only one argueing that they wouldn't. And I'm still not saying he would win just that he'd make it a good fight. The symbiotes have trouble hitting Spidey and he doesn't get his spidey sense against them. Batman would do well, he'd lose, but do well (or run away.)

(or run away.)

Damn skippy.

Spiderman still has mega enhanced agility, even without his spider sense. Plus hes got super strength so he can move much faster then batman anyways.

Actually he does have spider-sense against Carnage. Venom knows how to block it because of the symbiote having been bonded with Spider-Man. Plus the symbiotes don't really have that much difficulty hurting Spider-Man. Venom usually whips up on Spidey when they fight, and Spidey has never had to face them both at the same time. He would know he was in trouble and run away himself, so I think Bats would do that right off the bat.

Right off the 'bat.'

Hahahahahaahahaha, I'm funny.

no...Spidey can't sense any symbiotes that came from venom. carnage came out better than venom with extra powers. thats y he has spidey eyes like venom. bats would have trouble running away. a smoke bomb or something can't hide his escape, i say he dies either way (poor bats 🙁 )

Yes he can. Check out Amazing #361, he talks about how Carnage trips his spider-sense. Carnage has additional powers, but the spider-sense blockade wasn't due to the symbiote's alien nature, it was due to it (the Venom symbiote) having bonded with Spider-Man's nervous system and knowing how to avoid tripping it. Guys like Surfer and other aliens aren't immune to the spider-sense.

Of course Bat's could run away. Turn around for a second and he's gone. Have you forgotten that he's second only Mister Miracle (forgive me if I forgot anyone else) when it comes to the art of escaping? Go read some Batman Spiderninja008.

By the way, nice pun wrathofachilles, no one appreciates a good pun anymore but know that this one did not go unappreciated.

.....symbiotes aren't slow....and bats can't use magic, and hiding will do him no good cause symiotes can use camofloge and not b seen. they do that, bats dies even less than a comic page.

Magic? Magic? I'm not sure what you mean. The symbiots can use camoflauge. So? How does that stop Batman from running away?

Oh wait I get it, you beleive in magic. LOL! You think Houdini was some sort of wizard. How old are you dude?

.....master escape artist doesn't help you when you can't escape a symbiote unless they let you or just get tired of chasing you and want to go find some other twisted form of entertainment. The symbiotes could just sen a vine thingy behind bats and grab him while he tries to run away.............wut the hell, this is a vs. forum, enough with the pansy stuff!!

Actually it does matter. It means you can escape anything, not just set up traps and the like. At least that's what it means in DC.

Batman wouldn't just run away in front of them. He would do something like throw an exploding batarang over them then they turn to see the explosion. They turn back around and he's gone.

good point
my bad

but still this is vs, we r not making our own comic book, so no cowardly running plz

I hate you spiderninja. You take away from my argument.

Bats could escape if it was an urban area, but he wouldnt. Because the instant he was gone, Venom would take off after him and Carnage would slaughter some innocents. Batman wouldn't let that happen, he'd stay and fight like he always does, even if there is only a slight chance of survival.

Now if this is the middle of ****-knows-where, DBZ style landscape... Bats aint gettin' nowhere.

Originally posted by wrathofachilles
Yes he can. Check out Amazing #361, he talks about how Carnage trips his spider-sense. Carnage has additional powers, but the spider-sense blockade wasn't due to the symbiote's alien nature, it was due to it (the Venom symbiote) having bonded with Spider-Man's nervous system and knowing how to avoid tripping it. Guys like Surfer and other aliens aren't immune to the spider-sense.

he probable sensed something carnage threw or launched at him, cuz in "Planet of the symbiotes", when the entire symbiote RACE came to earth, neither spidey, nor ben reilly, were able to uses their spidey senses on any of them...

Actually you're right, Carnage doesn't either. I had to look it up, it was so long since I've read it. It was originally explained that Venom could block it because the symbiote had bonded with Spidey's nervous system, not because it was an alien, but I guess Carnage being offspring of Venom retained that knowledge or something. Or the writers changed their mind, shocking that they'd do that...

Originally posted by Nataku8188
I hate you spiderninja. You take away from my argument.

Bats could escape if it was an urban area, but he wouldnt. Because the instant he was gone, Venom would take off after him and Carnage would slaughter some innocents. Batman wouldn't let that happen, he'd stay and fight like he always does, even if there is only a slight chance of survival.

Now if this is the middle of ****-knows-where, DBZ style landscape... Bats aint gettin' nowhere.

If it was urban area then Bats aint stupid. He'd call someone in to do it for him. And just keep the symbiotes busy until someone arrive. And if it was in a DBZ type landscape he'd still get away, hidden until the Batplane arrives in 3 minutes.