Parallax vs. Dark Phoenix

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He never had the power to do it directly. If you look and read the scan you'll see him state himself he took advantage of anomalies left over from crisis to reach the end of time. From there he applied his power to a major conjunction point in time and that action caused the destruction.

Note he broke down Cronal energy to its most simplest basic form and then began to Manipulate it with his G.L. energy. I.e. manipulate entropy (Whichi is basically time). He stated that he could recreate the universe in fashion he desired, including returning the multi verse. The 'end point of time' was a result of destroying reality. I.e. without reality there is no Entropy, without entropy there is no passing of time.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. It says he ATTEMPTED TO and failed as he was unable to control the energies released resulting in a collapse of timelines.

That was a very poor choice of scan. 😬

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope because Jean wouldnt have been killed. Her physical form will just be destroyed and she'll just reform. Thats not a loss, if the character doesnt actually die and its within their power to reform their parts.

If you want to tailor a thread so that such reformations are outlawed and Phoenixes winning rate goes down then go ahead, by all means. However dont act like thats the case as standard in forum battles and please acknowledge that the fact that you'd have to go to those lengths to gain a win against Phoenix just makes me very very happy. 😄

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Note he broke down Cronal energy to its most simplest basic form and then began to Manipulate it with his G.L. energy. I.e. manipulate entropy (Whichi is basically time).

Where did you get any of that from? He never said that neither was it depicted.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
He stated that he could recreate the universe in fashion he desired, including returning the multi verse.

Yes, indeed. Through time manipulation. Nice feat not astonishing in cosmic terms. He was merely replaying what had come before whilst making alterations to what was already there to transform it into what his vision of the universe should be.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
The 'end point of time' was a result of destroying reality. I.e. without reality there is no Entropy, without entropy there is no passing of time.

#Nope. He hadnt destroyed time at that point. He travelled to the endpoint where there was Entropy. He commented on how the end was looped with the beginning. He applied his power to this conjunction point in time and that unleashed Entropy across creation at which point the destruction of reality occurred.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
as alternate realities seeped in and out so it did effect more then one reality

Yes, but he wasnt in control of the process so thats irrelevant. He unleashed entropy everywhere and he had no control of it. Entropy swept across creation destroying everything and affecting multiple realities. He merely unleashed it. He never generated it, it wasnt his power.

Once again and for the final time, liken it to cracking open the M'kraan crystal.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Where did you get any of that from? He never said that neither was it depicted.

He destroyed all beings who could potentially manipulate time, i.e. the Time trapper, he also make reference to using the Cronnal energies, this can be seen when he creates green bubbles in conjunction with his G.L. energies.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yes, indeed. Through time manipulation. Nice feat not astonishing in cosmic terms.

More impressive than anything done by the phoenix.

#

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. He hadnt destroyed time at that point. He travelled to the endpoint where there was Entropy. He commented on how the end was looped with the beginning. He applied his power to this conjunction point in time and that unleashed Entropy across creation at which point the destruction of reality occurred.

He referred to 'tightening' the loop, therefore manipulating ALL time and Space, and the Entire universe throughout all existence. When you consider that time is nothing more than the enfolding of entropy the subsequent change of entropy to a non dynamic state is in fact erasing it or destroying it.Pure Logic mate. 😉

Phoenix cannot die, this is bullshit

Phoenix is the Big Bang, this is bullshit

Phoenix spawned the Abstracts, this is bullshit

Phoenix is the life force of Reality, this is bullshit

Phoenix materialized the 616 Universe in her hands, this is bullshit

Phoenix contained the power of the N-Galaxy that destroys reality, this is bullshit

Phoenix has NEVER been depicted On Panel initiating the Big Bang.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Created a Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Remade a Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Destroyed ANY Eternity, or the 616 Universe, or even an Alternate Universe,
ONLY One DIVERGENT Reality in a WHAT IF Comic Book.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix cannot die, this is bullshit

Phoenix is the Big Bang, this is bullshit

Phoenix spawned the Abstracts, this is bullshit

Phoenix is the life force of Reality, this bullshit

Phoenix materialized the 616 Universe in her hands, this is bullshit

Phoenix contained the power of the N-Galaxy that destroys reality, this is bullshit

Phoenix has NEVER been depicted On Panel initiating the Big Bang.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Created a Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Remade a Universe.

Phoenix has NEVER On Panel Destroyed ANY Eternity, or the 616 Universe, or even an Alternate Universe,
ONLY One DIVERGENT Reality in a WHAT IF Comic Book.

Agreed, although crude.

I only insult idiots !

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
That is fanboyish again saying that killing her body don't count as a win is saying like killing Darkseid doesn't count as a win since he will come back.

Nope.

Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

Jean cannot truly die. She can have her physical body shattered, however as it is within her power to return to the battlefield just like that then it doesnt count as a loss.

When Phoenix blew apart her physical body on the moon, she didnt die, she was still present on the moon and watched the grieving X-men before deciding to depart.

As stated Phoenix is indestructible, mutable energy. It cannot be destroyed. That is canon.

If you want to tailor a thread to make her winning rate decrease, then do so by all means. Dont however accuse me of being a fanboy just because im relating to you what my character of choice can do as per the forum rules. 😱

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Agreed, although crude.

I only insult idiots !

Agreed Doc. and G.S. is no idiot, why all the shit's in that guys post? A lot of anger there.

❌

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
May I ask why? Darkseid was killed by Spectre and he came back after a few seconds because he is important for the Source.If someone kills Jean's body in a vs match it counts as a win deal with it or leave.

Everyone else agrees with this, but there is no need to call him a fan boy. Its childish and pathetic, and ridiculously unoriginal. And as i stated earlier, G.S. is not an idiot and therefore doesn't really warrant insults.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
May I ask why? Darkseid was killed by Spectre and he came back after a few seconds because he is important for the Source.If someone kills Jean's body in a vs match it counts as a win deal with it or leave.

Juggs,

it doesn't matter, Phoenix CAN DIE.

Don't fall for that fallacy.

Galactus was KILLING the Phoenix Force, ERASING it from existence, On Panel.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Everyone else agrees with this, but there is no need to call him a fan boy. Its childish and pathetic, and ridiculously unoriginal. And as i stated earlier, G.S. is not an idiot and therefore doesn't really warrant insults.

Agreed it seems very personal around here. Arguments are meant to be fun. 🙂

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Agreed, although crude.

I only insult idiots !

I'm not insulting anyone directly, or even insulting at all.

I'm only stating the fact, that all those claims I listed are bullshit ... no matter who's stating it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Juggs,

it doesn't matter, Phoenix CAN DIE.

Don't fall for that fallacy.

Galactus was KILLING the Phoenix Force, ERASING it from existence, On Panel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not insulting anyone directly, or even insulting at all.

I'm only stating the fact, that all those claims I listed are bullshit ... no matter who's stating it.

Relax mate, you've made your point, less with the shit.

🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not insulting anyone directly, or even insulting at all.

I'm only stating the fact, that all those claims I listed are bullshit ... no matter who's stating it.

I suppose so, can we go back to debating now

~yawns~

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
He destroyed all beings who could potentially manipulate time, i.e. the Time trapper, he also make reference to using the Cronnal energies, this can be seen when he creates green bubbles in conjunction with his G.L. energies.

Not in any doubt. My last reply was in opposition to your comments about how he broke down chronal energy to its simplest form and did this and did that. The fact that you havent replied with anything to actually prove that previous claim suggests to me you have nothing.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
More impressive than anything done by the phoenix.

Catalysing entropy and getting it to do all the work for you is not as impressive as manipulating a universe at the atomic level in the palm of your hand.

#

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
He referred to 'tightening' the loop, therefore manipulating ALL time and Space, and the Entire universe throughout all existence. When you consider that time is nothing more than the enfolding of entropy the subsequent change of entropy to a non dynamic state is in fact erasing it or destroying it.Pure Logic mate. 😉

True. Albeit it indirectly. And yet Entropy was just a force he unleashed on reality, not something he generated or controlled as actually stated in the scan Jugg presented.

Yes the destruction was impressive, but he was only ever the catalyst for it.

Originally posted by By Crom!
Relax mate, you've made your point, less with the shit.

I don't think I was acknowledging you,

You insulted me many times in that other thread for no reason at all, now your playing the sensible role.

Just ignore me as I will you. 😎