Parallax vs. Dark Phoenix

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Not in any doubt. My last reply was in opposition to your comments about how he broke down chronal energy to its simplest form and did this and did that. The fact that you havent replied with anything to actually prove that previous claim suggests to me you have nothing.

Catalysing entropy and getting it to do all the work for you is not as impressive as manipulating a universe at the atomic level in the palm of your hand.

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True. Albeit it indirectly. And yet Entropy was just a force he unleashed on reality, not something he generated or controlled as actually stated in the scan Jugg presented.

Yes the destruction was impressive, but he was only ever the catalyst for it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't think I was acknowledging you,

You insulted me many times in that other thread for no reason at all, now your playing the sensible role.

Just ignore me as I will you. 😎

I haven't insulted you, trust me on this.

🙂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I know it can be killed but I said even if we go by his theory that Jean's body can be killed it will comeback counts as a kill and a win also.

I see.

You've got a point there and I agree with it.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I know it can be killed but I said even if we go by his theory that Jean's body can be killed it will comeback counts as a kill and a win also.

An ass-whooping counts as a victory IMO.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I see.

You've got a point there and I agree with it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Juggs,

it doesn't matter, Phoenix CAN DIE.

Don't fall for that fallacy.

Galactus was KILLING the Phoenix Force, ERASING it from existence, On Panel.

Why are you lying? You have access to the scans where the point is actually stated so theres no way this can be misinterpretation. Its nothing but an attempt to mislead:

All he was doing is seperating the Force from Rachel. That is all. Stop the lies!

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So what do you think could Phoenix survive the same Entropy rift?

Originally posted by Galan007
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An ass-whooping counts as a victory IMO.

Of course it does and G.S. knows this.

He will at this point argue only the avatar has been damaged not the force. Which is also tru and it is the avatar that has lost.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So what do you think could Phoenix survive the same Entropy rift??

Originally posted by Mr Master
I'm not insulting anyone directly, or even insulting at all.

I'm only stating the fact, that all those claims I listed are bullshit ... no matter who's stating it.

What facts would they be?

Its stated on panel that Phoenix is the Big Bang.

Phoenix is shown being reborn in the Big Bang event and is shown as those energies made sentient.

Phoenix is stated in canon by many cosmic sources in many titles to be that perpetuates the cycle, by manifesting as the Big Bang and by bringing the universe to a close.

The Phoenix materialized 616 in the palm of her hand by telekinetically manipulating its atoms.

If Phoenix can do that she can destroy the universe if she wishes. To argue against that is fallacious.

LT hasnt destroyed the universe nor has the IG yet that doesnt seem to be acknowledged in your biased argument.

If you want to argue Phoenix then lets take it to the challenge thread. I am not going to start posting an argument to prove these points here only for you to swamp this thread with unrelated scans of Phoenix being p3w3d and copied and pasted arguments from Word ive dealt with months ago!! Its what you always do, its what youre known for.

Wanna argue Phoenix? Lets do this! 🙂

Lets slow down for a minute so we can acknowledge the lies of Mr Master. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Why are you lying? You have access to the scans where the point is actually stated so theres no way this can be misinterpretation. Its nothing but an attempt to mislead:

All he was doing is seperating the Force from Rachel. That is all. Stop the lies!

That was his INTENTION,

but Galactus ended up ERASING the Phoenix Force from existence because it was bonded to Rachel Summers completely:

When Galactus was going to erase the actual Phoenix Force (which was bonded to Rachel Summers) from existence, the Lights in the Universe were turning off.

"my master's concluded that Phoenix's continued existence is a threat to his own survival that he can't except"

continues in the next post...

Rachel was never just another Avatar, Rachel was one with the actual Phoenix Force,

The Phoenix Force itself told Rachel, "You are the ONE TRUE PHOENIX"

The Phoenix Force tells Rachel, "ALL I have become, You ARE Too"

Betsy can see all her Alternate versions in the White Hot Room

Rachel only has 4 Aspects of Her PAST-Self, NO Alternates

Rachel doesn't have an Alternate version of herself anywhere in the Multi-verse:

"in ALL the Alternate Dimensions we visited, NO analogue for Rachel Summers ... never another Phoenix"

Ok fine there is no disputing that, now let's continue this in the next post:

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1 st answer my question.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So what do you think could Phoenix survive the same Entropy rift???

i love it when GS calls people out inlove

master, you know very well that rachel is not the one true phoenix. that would be jean.

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Rachel complies, and excepts her fate:

"it's only one LIFE he wants ... I give it to him"

And when Rachel Summers (the Phoenix Force) is being drained:

"Galactus the Stars, they are going out"

Then Roma says,

"that child (Rachel Summers) is Phoenix, living embodiment of ONE of the primal forces, you can no more divide her spirit from flesh than you can life from death, there is a natural order to her being, as to yours, and all creation"

I first thought Roma meant Phoenix couldn't be killed no matter what, but the next panel clears that up nicely.

continues in the next post...

Roma then says,

"violate at your own peril"

Galactus then says,
"my sustenance is living Planets, the Phoenix can obliterate an entire cosmos"

Then Mistress or in this case "Mr" Death responds with,
"and from that death, bring about new life, but you're CHANGING that, BREAKING the Eternal PATTERN"

So the Phoenix Force can be erased, that's glorious!

And guess what?

Death and Galactus would survive, as would Eternity but without Stars.

"Is that your wish Galactus? ... to condemn the cosmos to ultimate extinction, and yourself to an Eternity in an Infinite Void, (so Galactus would SURVIVE) "can even you endure such desolation?" (only the existences that NEED Stars to survive would die)

Death is so cool when it says,

"unless that's what you really want? ... You've handed so many over to my care, why not lay down your burdens, and JOIN them?" (so Death SURVIVES too)

Finally Galactus releases the actual Phoenix Force and ALLOWS it to exist:

Originally posted by Galan007
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An ass-whooping counts as a victory IMO.

Of course it does.

What we were arguing here is whether Phoenix can be killed. She cannot be. She can have her physical body destroyed, but she cannot be killed. This is canon everyone knows this so why is this point being argued? 😕

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
So what do you think could Phoenix survive the same Entropy rift????