Parallax vs. Dark Phoenix

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
don't you guys think these arguments are becoming a little redundant? Can we ever agree to dissagree?

You were right in the thick of it when it took your fancy and now youre bored of it youre complaining 😬

Either way, you do have a point. We've gone off on a tangent.

I think ive shown im right on this particular issue. My interpretation is supported on panel and as Mr Master just showed (which im very grateful for) also in the handbooks.

According to Mr Master that makes my interpretation canon apparently. 😖hifty:

This was a very bad thread for him. 🙂

Its 17:45 in the U.k

ive cleaned up in this thread

Friends and sexy ladies beckon cheers

Time to get drunk 😱

Later guys!! 😄

How much do you wanna bet i come back to repost after repost after repost of arguments and opinions ive just curbstomped, but all in an effort to hide it all. Cos we all know noone reads these threads from the beginning. They just go back a few pages and join in. That practice is Mr Masters salvation.

Until next time peeps.

GS signing out! bye

You see... it's lines like the ones you say that provoke people to want to argue more. Stop being such a deuche bag and get over yourself, you're not the end all be all and neither is your precious phoenix character. Quit patting yourself on the back and remember:

You haven't even gotten close to changing Mr. Master or my or MANY others minds. You're just coming off as a repugnant ass and making some people hate the phoenix more...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
How much do you wanna bet i come back to repost after repost after repost of arguments and opinions ive just curbstomped, but all in an effort to hide it all. Cos we all know noone reads these threads from the beginning. They just go back a few pages and join in. That practice is Mr Masters salvation.

Choke on it.

When Galactus was ERASING the Phoenix Force, this is what happened:

"Galactus ... the STARS are GOING OUT"

and this is WHY, according to Roma:

"THAT CHILD (Rachel Summers) IS PHOENIX, LIVING EMBODIMENT of ONE of the Primal Forces, you can no more divide her spirit from flesh than you can life from death, there is a natural order to her being (EXISTENCE) as to yours, and all creation"

Roma was referring to Phoenix being ERASED from existence, and it's CANON!

(an excerpt from Roma's OFFICIAL Marvel Universe Handbook Bio)

Bibliography - Excalibur #25 - "WARNED Galactus NOT to SLAY Phoenix II" SAME shit ... it's STILL the Phoenix Force as I PROVED.

Galactic Storm says it's referring to Rachel not the Phoenix Force BUT,
WHY would Roma CARE if Galactus slays Rachel Summers? hum

(New Scan)

Right before Galactus was about to KILL the Phoenix Force,

ROMA appears and says,

"Certain EVENTS are of such SIGNIFICANCE, they must be Witnessed first hand, THIS is a MOMENT in the Scheme of Things which must stand or fall on it's own"

Yes, this moment of SUCH significance was simply about Galactus separating the Force from Rachel hysterical

INSTEAD of a True Cosmic EVENT of SIGNIFICANCE like the Phoenix Force being NO MORE!

Anyways,

So the STARS were GOING OUT because the Phoenix Force in it's Natural State is the SUSTENANCE of the STARS:

DEATH spoke about Galactus BREAKING the "Eternal Pattern"

"violate at your own peril"

Galactus then says,

"my sustenance is living Planets, the Phoenix can Obliterate an entire Cosmos"

Then Death responds with,

"and FROM that DEATH (Obliterate an entire Cosmos) Bring about New Life (SPARK the Big Bang) but you're CHANGING that, BREAKING the ETERNAL PATTERN"

Galactus said, the "Phoenix CAN Obliterate AN entire Cosmos"

Death responds, "and FROM THAT Death" (Obliterate AN entire Cosmos)

"BRING about NEW LIFE" (SPARK the Big Bang)

"Phoenix is both the SPARK that IGNITES CREATION (Big Bang)

and the Final Fire that consumes it" (Obliterate an entire Cosmos)

So the "Eternal Pattern" is obviously the Phoenix Force's ROLE in the Universe, to exist as the "SUSTENANCE of the STARS"
and cyclically SPARK the Big Bang which "Obliterates a Cosmos and brings about New Life"

ERASE the Phoenix Force, and you BREAK that Pattern.

When the WATCHER & DEATH said this to Galactus,

"Is that your wish Galactus? ... to condemn the Cosmos to ultimate extinction, and yourself to an Eternity in an Infinite Void, can even you endure such desolation?"

"unless that's what you really want? ... You've handed so many over to my care, why not lay down your burdens, and JOIN them?"

Galactus responds with,

"I am Supreme unto myself, I will NOT be bound Reaper, by Entity or Concept"

Watcher says,

"Yet Phoenix LIVES"

Galactus responds,

"FOR the PRESENT ... --- (What does this sound like to you?)

... the day is yours Starchilde, and with it, an awareness of your Role (the ETERNAL PATTERN) in the Scheme of Things"

The ETERNAL PATTERN, is Phoenix's ROLE in the Universe, Galactus was going to END that PATTERN by ERASING the Phoenix Force from existence,

just like the Official Marvel Handbook clearly states, Roma, "WARNED Galactus NOT to SLAY Phoenix II"

Phoenix II means the SECOND Phoenix, which is Rachel Summers.

Your arguments have already been stomped.

Galactus stated what he was doing,(his machinery was made to separate the Force from Rachel) Roma verified his statement by referring to him just separating the Force from Rachel and the artistic depiction just showed the Force emanating from Rachel. The handbook states that Roma spoke out against Galactus slaying PHOENIX 2!! (Rachel)Nothing is shown on panel or in the handbooks about the Force itself.

You never proved that Phoenix 2 is the same as the Force. Where exactly have you done that? In the carefully edited scans you posted? I posted the full page. Doesnt say what you would have us believe. 🙂

The Force in fact states theyre different. The Force shows its in control and says its leaving Rachel with limitations. The Force says its more than just what you see in reality, it also exists outside it. The issue that all this was said and done occurred over 3 years after the Galactus/Phoenix incident so it conclusively is useless to your argument. Therefore you cannot attempt to use it to prove that Rachel is the sum of The Force in an issue 3 years before and so your biased claim that Galactus by unwittingly killing Rachel was also killing the Force is unproven and laid to rest. 🙂

The eternal pattern is said to be at risk by Galactus separating the Force fromn Rachel, therefore the eternal pattern is merely referring to the Force working on the physical plane through hosts. It did so in the previous multiverse, in alternate universes and before and after the Galactus/Phoenix incident.

Your viewpoint is discounted on panel and in the handbooks. Once again you've lost. A very bad thread for you. 🙁

Once again. 😄

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Quite correct youre through. Your selective scans from Excalibur 64 DONT show what youre trying to say they are therefore your ridiculous argument that Rachel is the sum total of the Phoenix Force FLOPS.

I posted the full scan and it doesnt mean what youre trying to say. I already handled the issue previously. No need to waste any more effort on the issue.

In this very thread you edited a Phoenix scan and tried to make it look different from the one i posted so that you could say i never posted it and therefore accuse me of being biased.

You hypocritically posted bio entrys to support your argument after months of berating me for doing the same thing, only to shoot yourself in the foot because the bio only supported what i said 😂

You posted the bio and then tried to lie about what it said saying it just said "Phoenix", hoping foolishly that posters wouldnt see the "II" on the following line.

You posted a selective quote from an old thread and tried to make out i was saying something i wasnt. When i berated you for posting it out of context and lying about me and told you to post a link to the thread it came from so everyone could see the truth YOU DIDNT RESPOND.

BIG FRAUD. 😮

MASSIVE HYPOCRITE 👇

WASTE OF MINE AND EVERYONES EFFING TIME 😂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Once again.

As you wish:

This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums by Galactic Storm

Read his post so you can see his deliberate intention:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I forgot to mention how Xmen Forever clearly depicts how one wielding the phoenix power becomes supreme over creation. With enough power to humble LT even:

He even threw in an extra close up

He CUT OUT the STRANGER from the Scan to make it appear as though they are bowing to JEAN.

Here is the REAL Scan, with the Stranger he CUT OUT!

Funny how you accuse others of "FRAUD" after something like this. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Your arguments have already been stomped.

Galactus stated what he was doing,(his machinery was made to separate the Force from Rachel) Roma verified his statement by referring to him just separating the Force from Rachel and the artistic depiction just showed the Force emanating from Rachel. The handbook states that Roma spoke out against Galactus slaying PHOENIX 2!! (Rachel)Nothing is shown on panel or in the handbooks about the Force itself.

You never proved that Phoenix 2 is the same as the Force. Where exactly have you done that? In the carefully edited scans you posted? I posted the full page. Doesnt say what you would have us believe. 🙂

The Force in fact states theyre different. The Force shows its in control and says its leaving Rachel with limitations. The Force says its more than just what you see in reality, it also exists outside it. The issue that all this was said and done occurred over 3 years after the Galactus/Phoenix incident so it conclusively is useless to your argument. Therefore you cannot attempt to use it to prove that Rachel is the sum of The Force in an issue 3 years before and so your biased claim that Galactus by unwittingly killing Rachel was also killing the Force is unproven and laid to rest. 🙂

The eternal pattern is said to be at risk by Galactus separating the Force fromn Rachel, therefore the eternal pattern is merely referring to the Force working on the physical plane through hosts. It did so in the previous multiverse, in alternate universes and before and after the Galactus/Phoenix incident.

Your viewpoint is discounted on panel and in the handbooks. Once again you've lost. A very bad thread for you. 🙁

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Oh so Phoenix 2 uses a different power source not the Phoenix Force.

Youre so lost its hilarious. You really shouldnt get involved in cosmic debates. Stick to Spiderman 😂

mr master

tell us again how long did it take the fury to kill every hero on earth 238?
2 hours was it?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre so lost its hilarious. You really shouldnt get involved in cosmic debates. Stick to Spiderman 😂

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
I wasn't serious smartass. 😐

Thank god for that! 😱 😂

Originally posted by xjustice69x
mr master

tell us again how long did it take the fury to kill every hero on earth 238?
2 hours was it?

Originally posted by xjustice69x
mr master

tell us again how long did it take the fury to kill every hero on earth 238?
2 hours was it?

do u know who destroyed earth 238

Originally posted by guy222
do u know who destroyed earth 238

edit

Originally posted by Mr Master
As you wish:

This is definitely the biggest BETRAYAL of trust ever committed on KMC forums by Galactic Storm

Read his post so you can see his deliberate intention:

He even threw in an extra close up

He CUT OUT the STRANGER from the Scan to make it appear as though they are bowing to JEAN.

Here is the REAL Scan, with the Stranger he CUT OUT!

Funny how you accuse others of "FRAUD" after something like this. 😉

😐

Wow.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
😐

Wow.