what is better...?

Originally posted by Ytaker
Like the universal truth a couple hundred years ago till now that "niggers" or whatever ghastly term they inflicted on black populations back then, were inferior? 🤨 That was almost certainly on people's subconscious, even part of their Freudian super-ego.

Collective UNconscious does not equal collective SUBconscious. I invented a concept which has now been incorporated into part of some or other truth. What I said has no basis whatsoever in fact, but it could easily become the universal truth of this forum.

Originally posted by moneypenny
Collective UNconscious does not equal collective SUBconscious. I invented a concept which has now been incorporated into part of some or other truth. What I said has no basis whatsoever in fact, but it could easily become the universal truth of this forum.

I'm slightly confused at what you said. But universal truth in this forum... no, never.

My thoughts are greatly overrated anyway 🙂

Now ain't THAT the truth! 💃

Just kidding, babe.

i'll take the red pill

😑

what pill? 😱

The truth, even though it hurts at times, it's the best. I would hate it if I was asking a friend how do these jeans look and she says "great", when really they make me look fat, or they are out of style, don't match my shirt, Just say the truth!!! 😄

I was reading part of 1984 again last night, and came across something that kinda relates to this whole absolute truth dealy. At the news place where Winston works, his job is to rewrite past assumptions in speeches and such so that they fit what turned out to be true in the present. Everything in Oceania that carries information is fair game to be either rewritten or destroyed to fit the current needs of the government. So, here's something interesting to think about. If an absolute truth once existed, but all physical evidence regarding that absolute truth has been either destroyed or changed, so that nobody remembers what it was like before, is there a truth anymore? The book also goes into detail about the strange thought patterns resulting from all this writing and re-writing of history, how people are left totally confused about the past, because they remember one thing, yet all material evidence says otherwise. Does there ever come a point when the past is so garbled up from different people's memories, and physical evidence contradicting itself, that the truth no longer exists?

Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
The truth, even though it hurts at times, it's the best. I would hate it if I was asking a friend how do these jeans look and she says "great", when really they make me look fat, or they are out of style, don't match my shirt, Just say the truth!!! 😄

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I was reading part of 1984 again last night, and came across something that kinda relates to this whole absolute truth dealy. At the news place where Winston works, his job is to rewrite past assumptions in speeches and such so that they fit what turned out to be true in the present. Everything in Oceania that carries information is fair game to be either rewritten or destroyed to fit the current needs of the government. So, here's something interesting to think about. If an absolute truth once existed, but all physical evidence regarding that absolute truth has been either destroyed or changed, so that nobody remembers what it was like before, is there a truth anymore? The book also goes into detail about the strange thought patterns resulting from all this writing and re-writing of history, how people are left totally confused about the past, because they remember one thing, yet all material evidence says otherwise. Does there ever come a point when the past is so garbled up from different people's memories, and physical evidence contradicting itself, that the truth no longer exists?

Originally posted by Darth Revan
[B]If an absolute truth once existed, but all physical evidence regarding that absolute truth has been either destroyed or changed, so that nobody remembers what it was like before, is there a truth anymore?

Sounds like you've been watching Serial Experiments: Lain. A key idea of the anime was that if something happens and isn't remembered (or remembered correctly in this case) did it ever happen at all? Same idea really. Interesting stuff, a bit like a koan. 🙂

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I was reading part of 1984 again last night, and came across something that kinda relates to this whole absolute truth dealy. At the news place where Winston works, his job is to rewrite past assumptions in speeches and such so that they fit what turned out to be true in the present. Everything in Oceania that carries information is fair game to be either rewritten or destroyed to fit the current needs of the government. So, here's something interesting to think about. If an absolute truth once existed, but all physical evidence regarding that absolute truth has been either destroyed or changed, so that nobody remembers what it was like before, is there a truth anymore? The book also goes into detail about the strange thought patterns resulting from all this writing and re-writing of history, how people are left totally confused about the past, because they remember one thing, yet all material evidence says otherwise. Does there ever come a point when the past is so garbled up from different people's memories, and physical evidence contradicting itself, that the truth no longer exists?

I remember reading something like that in 1984. They guy burns a piece of paper, and says that it never existed because it doesnt exist any more. And then he goes on to say that it only exists in the mind of the individual, and that the collective mind of society is less likely to be mistaken than the individual's mind, so if the rest of society thinks that it doesnt exist, then it didnt exist

^ i've read that part yesterday 😖

i would want to know the truth....like say your bf/gf cheated on you....i dunno personally i rather them tell me the truth themselves instead of feeling like a huge idiot when someone else tells you. No matter how much it would hurt to hear that, at least u know you got rid of a bad guy/girl.

truth is always the answer no matter what... if you don't want to lie and don't want to tell the truth, then delay time... example> I need more time to answer your difficult question..

and offcourse, you must live in a country where there is human rights... lol... if someone asked you something threatening you life... I have nothing to commend about, since I hold no power to that decision wether you should tell the truth or lie, when time is limited...

personally i would like the truth no matter how much it hurts, but if another person is involved and he/she would rather be lied to then get hurt n i care for em then there is a chance that ill lie, but only if its desperate circumstances{like the example of ur kid showin u a picture he/she made, even its completely horrible u wudnt wanna break his/her heart}

breaking heart... that is similar with the other post u made in the love post.... but have u seen other possibility that you can acctually tell the kid in a better way such as "I think you can do much better with me teaching you?"

but maybe, the kid doesnt wanna do better,maybe all he want is a little praise from his father{it could work either way, just two ways to tackle the same problem i suppose}

but still... the kid must be taught that we should try to tell the truth as best as we could do....

the truth hurts.

good.

truth only hurts if you are living in a lie.... that is my own proverb...