Baseball Offseason

Started by Shaolin Monk11 pages

Yeah, I saw that I had a new Hudson update in my inbox, thought it was just gonna be another rumor...then read about the trade...I can't believe they gave up Thomas!!! He was part of their future outfield....bah...Good for both teams...still, I will be very pissed at the braves if they aren't able to sign Hudson past the 2005 season

Also, Adrian Beltre is goin to the Mariners on a 5 year 64 mil contract

"The Braves also announced today that they acquired right-handed reliever Jorge Vasquez from the Royals in exchange for outfielder Eli Marrero and cash considerations."

Hmmm...Vasquez pitched in 2 games for the Royals. Marrero hit .320 in 50 games. Dunno if I like this

Originally posted by Shaolin Monk
Yeah, I saw that I had a new Hudson update in my inbox, thought it was just gonna be another rumor...then read about the trade...I can't believe they gave up Thomas!!! He was part of their future outfield....bah...Good for both teams...still, I will be very pissed at the braves if they aren't able to sign Hudson past the 2005 season

Also, Adrian Beltre is goin to the Mariners on a 5 year 64 mil contract

Gammons had a nice piece on the trade.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/gammons/story?id=1947932

It's a pretty good deal for Oakland when they get three top prospects for a player in a contract year. It still hurts losing Hudson as he was my favorite player. I guess I'm going to be a semi-Braves fan now that Hudson is with the Braves😱 .

I do agree with you, if Hudson leaves after this season it will be a terrible move, but I think he'll sign a long term contract with the Braves.

The Yankees acquired Randy Johnson in a three way deal with the Diamondbacks and Dodgers. I don't have the specifics of the deal as I saw it on the ESPN score update thingy.

Well maybe its not happeing...eff ESPN's score update thingy.chair

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1947995

The Dodgers ****ed up bad by letting Adrian Beltre go. Im ****in pissed. Right when we were getting good too. Its over. we lets Perez and Finley go too. But now since Adrian Beltre is gone we stink.

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Well maybe its not happeing...eff ESPN's score update thingy.chair

lol

exactly...i went to foxsports, and they said it was done, then went to espn's site, and they said "it's probably going to fall through"

sorry you are upset wolf dog...

doc, I officially dub ye a semi-braves fun 😱 👆

Originally posted by Wolf Dog
The Dodgers ****ed up bad by letting Adrian Beltre go. Im ****in pissed. Right when we were getting good too. Its over. we lets Perez and Finley go too. But now since Adrian Beltre is gone we stink.

Yeah letting Beltre go really hurt. The only good thing to come out of the non moves by the Dodgers is they will have a lot of cap space, but then I don't know which way that franchise is going so it might not matter. Does anybody know if the Dodgers have a good farm system right know?

Also, Seattle is going to be interesting team to watch this year with Sexson and Beltre.

And badsymbiote and forumcrew, as KMC's resident M's fans have you liked the moves the M's have made this off season?

Originally posted by Shaolin Monk
lol

exactly...i went to foxsports, and they said it was done, then went to espn's site, and they said "it's probably going to fall through"

sorry you are upset wolf dog...

doc, I officially dub ye a semi-braves fun 😱 👆

Yay 😊...now all I need is a Braves Hudson jersey and one of those foam Brave tomahawks to do the Tomahawk chop and I'll be all set 😈...although if I did that my Dad would think I was on the sticky icky. 😂

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Yay 😊...now all I need is a Braves Hudson jersey and one of those foam Brave tomahawks to do the Tomahawk chop and I'll be all set 😈...although if I did that my Dad would think I was on the sticky icky. 😂

😆 😂 😆 👆

I have a chipper jones, andruw jones, maddux and smoltz jersey, I HAVE to get a Hudson jersey...Man, if I can find this picture, I'll post it here...my parents are selling the house, and it's been up since august, so we have had to move a lot of stuff out...i had to basically strip my room and keep only "the essentials"...but my entire room, literally, was covered with baseball pics...and I took a pic with all my braves jerseys and a tomahawk taped to the walls...looked badass lol...

anywho...

I thought this was interesting...

"Since making his Major League debut with the A's in 1999, Hudson has become one of the game's elite hurlers. The 29-year-old right-hander is 92-39 with a 3.30 ERA in 183 career starts. He is an eye-opening 75-2 when he receives four or more runs of support.

Seeing how the Braves average runs per game last year was 4.7, that is a pleasent statistic to read

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Does anybody know if the Dodgers have a good farm system right know?

bah! durn 15 minute editing "rule"...

Dodgers have an "ok" farm system...nothing more...I remember when Finley hit that game winning grand slam to beat the Giants and win the West, Harold Reynolds was saying the 2004 playoffs would be important for the Dodgers if they wanted a championship before 2010. Because they don't have many good prospects.

Dodgers signed Jose Valentin, the ex shortstop from the White Sox. He is sposed to play 3rd, and replace Beltre...

"In 125 games last year, Valentin hit .216 with 30 home runs and 70 RBIs. That's a bit of a drop-off from Beltre's numbers of .334, 48 and 121"

He's got some pop, but not an eye

Originally posted by Shaolin Monk
😆 😂 😆 👆

I have a chipper jones, andruw jones, maddux and smoltz jersey, I HAVE to get a Hudson jersey...Man, if I can find this picture, I'll post it here...my parents are selling the house, and it's been up since august, so we have had to move a lot of stuff out...i had to basically strip my room and keep only "the essentials"...but my entire room, literally, was covered with baseball pics...and I took a pic with all my braves jerseys and a tomahawk taped to the walls...looked badass lol...

anywho...

I thought this was interesting...

"Since making his Major League debut with the A's in 1999, Hudson has become one of the game's elite hurlers. The 29-year-old right-hander is 92-39 with a 3.30 ERA in 183 career starts. [B]He is an eye-opening 75-2 when he receives four or more runs of support.

Seeing how the Braves average runs per game last year was 4.7, that is a pleasent statistic to read [/B]

I would like a Smoltz jersey, that be cool. Truthfully I don't have a baseball jersey although I need one. I'll either get a Mulder or Chavez for the A's and Schmidt or Benitez for the Giants.

Yeah Hudson is one of if not the most consistent pitcher in the game. Truthfully he might have had a bunch of 20 win seasons but the A's offense is usually pretty terrible during his starts and the bullpen has blown more saves off of Hudson's starts than any other starting pitcher on the A's staff. It shows how wins are such an stupid stat to base who is the best pitcher.

Hope to see those pic's. 👆

Originally posted by Shaolin Monk
bah! durn 15 minute editing "rule"...

Dodgers have an "ok" farm system...nothing more...I remember when Finley hit that game winning grand slam to beat the Giants and win the West, Harold Reynolds was saying the 2004 playoffs would be important for the Dodgers if they wanted a championship before 2010. Because they don't have many good prospects.

Dodgers signed Jose Valentin, the ex shortstop from the White Sox. He is sposed to play 3rd, and replace Beltre...

"In 125 games last year, Valentin hit .216 with 30 home runs and 70 RBIs. That's a bit of a drop-off from Beltre's numbers of .334, 48 and 121"

He's got some pop, but not an eye

ACK...I never want to remember that horrible day. It was probably one of my worst moments watching sports with seeing both my teams getting eliminated from the playoff within an hour of each other😘 . Well anyways it looks like the Dodgers are screwed as of right now.

Also, the Red Sox countered the Yankees signing Pavano by signing Matt Clement to a 3 year deal. Personally I would rather have Pavano than Clement but both signings have been good for both teams.

The Yankees need to stop expecting they can take young NL pitchers that are just off the best season of their careers, and have them perform just as well. Look at Vasquez. He was awesome in Montreal, but had problems with the Yankees. I know I've said this a few times before, but it is completely different pitching in the AL, especially for the Yankees...whom have no idea what "the future" means...

as far as the Randy Johnson trade...I hope Shawn Green does decide not to be traded...let's see, who would I rather play for...a team that is just off a good season, has lost some key players, but will still contend for the pennant (dodgers)...or a team that is trying to get rid of a future hall of famer, has made some rather retarded signings/deals already, and won't be contending (diamondbacks)...

I really hope that trade doesnt go down. If Shawn Green decides not to be traded he will be one of my favorite players. Oh and i just heard on ESPN that the Mets are gonna have a big run at Carlos Beltran.

Over on the MLB homepage of FoxSports , there is the video of Hudson becoming a brave(Video:Hudson In Atlanta), and at the end, Bobby Cox called John Thomson "Jason Thomson"....oh man, that had to be embarassing

bah @ the mets going after Beltran

Now its "The Big one". It's sure tough to buy a A's jersey when all of their top players always get traded or leave every year. 🙄

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1949157

Damn doc...i was gonna give you a hug, but the smilie looks a little too...err, over the top...

I thought the Braves/A's trade was good...but this trade with the Cardinals is extremely odd...Danny Haren is very unproven in my opinion...his ERA in 118 innings is 4.85, and is strikeouts to walks ratio isn't very appealing...I didn't even think his college numbers were very impressive...Kiko Calero was a nice little pickup, but I dont think him, accompanied with Haren and a minor league catcher that is so-so was a good idea for the A's...Mulder did give up a lot of walks, and had a rather high ERA, but he's proved to be a good pitcher...I don't like this deal hoover giljotiini

Originally posted by Shaolin Monk
Damn doc...i was gonna give you a hug, but the smile looks a little too...err, over the top...

I thought the Braves/A's trade was good...but this trade with the Cardinals is extremely odd...Danny Haren is very unproven in my opinion...his ERA in 118 innings is 4.85, and is strikeouts to walks ratio isn't very appealing...I didn't even think his college numbers were very impressive...Kiko Calero was a nice little pickup, but I dont think him, accompanied with Haren and a minor league catcher that is so-so was a good idea for the A's...Mulder did give up a lot of walks, and had a rather high ERA, but he's proved to be a good pitcher...I don't like this deal hoover giljotiini

Well it was more of a "woe is me" smiley... at least that what was I was trying to imply.

I'm not as big of fan of this trade as I was for Hudson as there might have been a better deal out there but I understand what Billy's doing with building for the future. The A's with their cheap payroll probably couldn't sign either pitcher so he's getting prospects by trading both, instead of both leaving in free agency and getting nothing. The A's probably wont make the playoffs this upcoming season but in the 06 season they could be very dangerous if some of these young prospects develop. Still this hurts as I hate the Cards, so I'll be wincing every time I see Mulder in a Card's uniform.

I could still use that hug as not only two of my favorite pitchers are gone but my prediction that Zito would be the first to be traded is now destroyed as he's the only one left. frusty

starwars captain

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
Well it was more of a "woe is me" smiley... at least that what was I was trying to imply.

I could still use that hug as not only two of my favorite pitchers are gone but my prediction that Zito would be the first to be traded is now destroyed as he's the only one left. frusty

starwars captain

I meant the hug smiley is a little over the top 😛

but you need one hug

now the randy johnson trade has 10 players involved...gettin a little outta hand IMO