Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Originally posted by Zen2nd
1) Being able to life 2,000 tonnes+ does not give you the magic ability to hold a gun straight, maybe if MC was 2,000 tonnes himself.

2)Its called physics. The bomb had spikes in it. Thus the spikes would have dug into the ground and caused mass amount of friction between the bomb and the ground. Actually being able to move the bomb in the first place is something.

So? You can't deny that he can lift over a tank even if it is a "useful" game mechanic.

If it was a game mechanic, then it's not cannon and has no effect on MC's actual abilities.

Are you saying that the spikes prevented him from lifting the bomb straight over his head? I doubt that if he really were able to flip a scorpion tank. And based on what we know of the Covenant (their ships are much smaller than humans yet are more powerful and much faster), it's probable that the bomb was relatively light, which makes it sound like MC is not that strong.

If it was a game mechanic, then it's not cannon and has no effect on MC's actual abilities.

Then Samus can't have infinity ammo in her arm cannon. Since it's just a useful game mechanic so the developers don't have to worry about having ammo crates in the right place.

Same principle so I guess for this fight she has limited ammo. With no possible way to reload.

it's probable that the bomb was relatively light

There's no way of guessing that just by judging their ship size, that is totally ridiculous.

No, you cant say Samus has every addon, attachment, beam, and every other thing for her suit and that the MC can't have ANY weapons at all. That is just retarded.

The MC weighs about 500+ pounds in his armour, depending on the class of armour he is wearing at the time. He can lift a lot, and the armour makes almost no strain on him. He can hold a gun very straight. Among the enhancements the increased muscle control would have allowed him to hold a gun much more steady than a normal human being. It's common sense, and again it's written down officialy.

Covvie ships are NOT all smaller than UNSC. Covenant heavy capital ships outclass most everything the UNSC has.

Originally posted by Zen2nd
Then Samus can't have infinity ammo in her arm cannon. Since it's just a useful game mechanic so the developers don't have to worry about having ammo crates in the right place.

Same principle so I guess for this fight she has limited ammo. With no possible way to reload.

There's no way of guessing that just by judging their ship size, that is totally ridiculous.

1. Theirs no proof that having unlimited ammo is a game mechanic. Her gun might just have an almost non-existant cool down time. So she CAN have infinant ammo. MC's guns DO have limietd ammo. It's a gun...

2. To liquid fire: Having all of her weaposn at once in not agame mechanic. ITS BUILT INTO HER SUIT. Samus' suit is BUILT to be able to hold every weapon and change them at will. Mc is not. Even in the books MC can only carry two guns at a time.

I wasn't talking about MC gun carrying ability. I'm talking about his tank lifting ability.

im talking about what you said about Samus' weapon carrying ability.

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
No, you cant say Samus has every addon, attachment, beam, and every other thing for her suit and that the MC can't have ANY weapons at all. That is just retarded.

The MC weighs about 500+ pounds in his armour, depending on the class of armour he is wearing at the time. He can lift a lot, and the armour makes almost no strain on him. He can hold a gun very straight. Among the enhancements the increased muscle control would have allowed him to hold a gun much more steady than a normal human being. It's common sense, and again it's written down officialy.

Covvie ships are NOT all smaller than UNSC. Covenant heavy capital ships outclass most everything the UNSC has.

Samus CAN carry all her weapons at once. Master Chief CANNOT carry all his weapons at once. Even the novels has the Master Chief carrying two weapons. Where would he keep all the other weapons? Samus's suit allows her to carry all her weapons.

What I'm talking about is that the developers could have just easily given her the unlimited ammo just to make it easier for them.

What I'm trying to say is that you can't just come out and say that since MC lifting a tank is suppose to be useful and helps the developers, ergo it null and void.

Her suit may be built to have them all, but that dosen't mean she should be allowed to have it all. If she can have all her guns built into her suit then the MC should have all his guns there as well.

I knwo for a fact that Samus dosen't start all the games with her weapons. Your sticking Samus in he prime state against MC when he is not in his prime state.

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
Her suit may be built to have them all, but that dosen't mean she should be allowed to have it all. If she can have all her guns built into her suit then the MC should have all his guns there as well.

I knwo for a fact that Samus dosen't start all the games with her weapons. Your sticking Samus in he prime state against MC when he is not in his prime state.

Lol the "Oh well if so and sos THAT GOOD than THATS NOT FAIR!!" bit doesn't work. MC cant GET in hsi prime because he can only carry two guns. Samus' can. It's MC's own fault for being a loser who cant carry more than three gusn at the same time.

No...I know Samus can carry all her stuff in her suit. I also know she doesn't have it by default, she needs to aquire them. Why should she already have aquired every ability, weapon, and power up and the Chief nothing?

The Chief could have an OS, Camo, Fuel Rod Gun and Sniper Rifle along with increased speed and all that stuff, he CAN get those as well just like samus CAN get all her stuff. Just, we don't pump the chief full of all his juice before we send him into the ring. Unlike you people and Samus.

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
No...I know Samus can carry all her stuff in her suit. I also know she doesn't have it by default, she needs to aquire them. Why should she already have aquired every ability, weapon, and power up and the Chief nothing?

The Chief could have an OS, Camo, Fuel Rod Gun and Sniper Rifle along with increased speed and all that stuff, he CAN get those as well just like samus CAN get all her stuff. Just, we don't pump the chief full of all his juice before we send him into the ring. Unlike you people and Samus.

Because Master Chief CANNOT carry all his weapons. He would have no means to carry them all. Samus can carry all her weapons and most games she starts out with all of her power-ups.

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
No...I know Samus can carry all her stuff in her suit. I also know she doesn't have it by default, she needs to aquire them. Why should she already have aquired every ability, weapon, and power up and the Chief nothing?

The Chief could have an OS, Camo, Fuel Rod Gun and Sniper Rifle along with increased speed and all that stuff, he CAN get those as well just like samus CAN get all her stuff. Just, we don't pump the chief full of all his juice before we send him into the ring. Unlike you people and Samus.

Also the fact that Cheif doesn't have a speed upgrade that can be aquired, anf his fucamo only lasts for like, what, two minutes? Samus' can just use her infrared visor or X-Ray to see him. And if he chooses to have sniper rifle and feul rod than so be it. Thats his only weapons. HE cant have all his weapons at once even if he wanted to. So him having em all at his disposal is just the request of a poor guy who doesn't want to see his hero lose, hence, it won't happen.

MC can carry 2 weapons, Samus carries more. Why are you all whining about it?

Originally posted by NineCoronas
MC can carry 2 weapons, Samus carries more. Why are you all whining about it?

exactly.

So your giving Samus every weapon and power up possible while limiting MC to just two weapons and no power ups. Wow, that's the most one sided fight I've ever heard of.

I have no problem really with limiting him to two weapons, but giving Samus all the power ups and stuff is just not fair. The MC has a few power ups too but I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to use them.

Does Metroid support vehicles?

I am NOT whining about the weapons issue. If you are too blind to see I'm talking about something else that is related somewhat than...

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
So your giving Samus every weapon and power up possible while limiting MC to just two weapons and no power ups. Wow, that's the most one sided fight I've ever heard of.

I have no problem really with limiting him to two weapons, but giving Samus all the power ups and stuff is just not fair. The MC has a few power ups too but I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed to use them.

Does Metroid support vehicles?

I am NOT whining about the weapons issue. If you are too blind to see I'm talking about something else that is related somewhat than...

Because in most Metroid games Samus starts out with all her weapons and power-ups.

And were did we say no pwerups for mc? I just said that active camo only lasts for like...3 minutes. And Samus can see him anyway, so whats the point?

Because Master Chief has to find those power-ups on the field. He never once starts out with them.

In the Metroid games I played I had to find the power ups. There is not point of a power up if you have it 24/7 thats just gay...

X-ray I dont think would let her see the MC perfectly. The CAMO bends the waves so you'd still just get a distortion. Thermal vison though would betray his precense.