Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by Snoopbert144 pages

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
they have alot to do with it
No, they don't. You could have a large selection of idiots who know nothing about what they're voting for voting on the polls (Ala the mentioned America).

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
of course they wouldnt, for you.. not until cheif was in the lead anyway 🙄
Things change.

Originally posted by MuffinmanMike
In short, Samus wins 😉

The idea of a human barely equal to Spider-man with lots of guns beating a woman trained by an ancient race to have the strength, agility, and endurance to do ridiculous things(superspeed inside a cumbersome powersuit, leaping high and bounding off walls, curling up into a super-small ball form) as well as having a fully-upgradeable suit is absurd.

I'm not saying Master Chief is by any means weak, or it's an easy fight. I'm just saying Samus is the clear winner.

Let me re-iterate my point.
SPACE DINOSAUR.

right... someone needs schooling....

MC is much stronger then spiderman... Hes also much stronger then samus.
MC might not roll up into a ball, or stick to special walls... but hes agile.. He can jump a 3 meter wall.. wow hes much better now!
SA tech isn't going to help her we have talked about it before....

Let me help you with your point....
If she was such a great bounty hunter, why does the dino keep coming back???
MC DESTROYER OF RING WORLDS

Originally posted by Snoopbert
No, they don't. You could have a large selection of idiots who know nothing about what they're voting for voting on the polls (Ala the mentioned America).

THIS IS A DEMOCRACY!!!

every idiot has the right to vote, regardless of what they know

so there!

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
THIS IS A DEMOCRACY!!!

every idiot has the right to vote, regardless of what they know

so there!

I sincerely hope you were being sarcastic.

Looks optimistically pessimistic, to me.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss

Let me help you with your point....
If she was such a great bounty hunter, why does the dino keep coming back???

because he did die numerous times already.. the space pirates find peices of him and then re-grow him, and give him artificial addons

I'm pretty sure v-g cats did a parody about that (in the comic.. the pirates finally get sick of rebuilding ridley, so they opt to throw his big toe at her.. which needless to say she raises an eyebrow to)

I know satsujin....

Master chief vs. Samus Arn

courier orange Samus would win she started when she was 1. She was found in a empty battlefeild by the chozo.

thats quite a nice pic.... Did MC do all that.... dam...... nope she was resuced when she was 4/6 when space pirates fcked up her parents and home planet... she didn't fight them off, she hid....

Yes I'm sure she's supposed to battle space pirates at 4 years old... 🙄

and I really like the dramatic flair of that artwork.. hot stuff
unfortunately the actual schematics of the suit are totally wrong... much wiring and armor plating is beneath the suits main shell plating

Despite all the things MC can do, Samus is the clear winner here. Most of this has been gone over before but:

She has better training, started at age 4, showed great combat skills even at that early year.

She has ridiculous amounts of weaponry. ice, plasma, energy, wave, spazer, light, dark, missles, the list is seemingly endless. Most don't even need any sort of recharging. Her bombs can even be used to heal herself should anything go wrong.

She has been enhanced beyond the suit. The Chozo blood she was infused with gave her healing abilities and strength unheard of by human standards.

She is intelligent, you try maintaining a couple dozen advanced weapons that only she knows how to work.

And don't tell me that I made all of this up and that there is no proof of it. Her strength and combat skills are all proven to be superhuman by the Metroid comics released by Nintendo Power, as well as the game manuals. Even during gameplay, when she is without her suit, she is able to leap off walls and get shot by pirates without much harm. It isn't even a fair match, really.

Originally posted by sectorZ
She has better training, started at age 4, showed great combat skills even at that early year.

She has ridiculous amounts of weaponry.Her bombs can even be used to heal herself should anything go wrong.

She has been enhanced beyond the suit. The Chozo blood she was infused with gave her healing abilities and strength unheard of by human standards.

She is intelligent, you try maintaining a couple dozen advanced weapons that only she knows how to work.

Her strength and combat skills are all proven to be superhuman by the Metroid comics released by Nintendo Power, as well as the game manuals. Even during gameplay, when she is without her suit, she is able to leap off walls and get shot by pirates without much harm. It isn't even a fair match, really.

Plu---Lease.....
MC is just as highly trainned perhaps more...
Weaponary will struggle to hit most of the time... MC can dodge bullets.. slow moving energy isn't going to be a problem...

Chozo blood.... Please provide scans of the comics... No were else gives her any sort of "chozo blood" abilities, only that she can use the suit....

She hasn't shown any degree of intelligence... MC was a geneticaly perfect human...(so he has a high IQ..) then he got upgrades to boose his brain.... even higher.... SA is still a standard human...

CHEATS ARN'T CANNON... showing SA without her suit was just for fun... there not cannon... otherwise she wouldn't wear the suit if she could do it all without it.....

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
right... someone needs schooling....

MC is much stronger then spiderman... Hes also much stronger then samus.


MCs strength is canon greater than 15 tons? Even still. No hand-to-hand then. Samus isn't stupid. Ever see her punch Kraid?

MC might not roll up into a ball, or stick to special walls... but hes agile.. He can jump a 3 meter wall.. wow hes much better now!
SA tech isn't going to help her we have talked about it before....

She can bound from wall to wall, grab a ledge, and pull herself up.
MC can leap a few meters into the air, then fall down to the ground.


Let me help you with your point....
If she was such a great bounty hunter, why does the dino keep coming back???
MC DESTROYER OF RING WORLDS

Canon-wise, Samus has killed Ridley.
He's been reassembled with cybernetic parts a couple times, too.

canon-wise, MC has not taken down one Halo on his own. He did not shoot it, bomb it, punch it, etc.
Samus takes down Ridley and Kraid one on one.

(I'd also like to note that Super Metroid and Metroid/Zero Mission are the only times she faces Kraid to my knowledge. Each time he's gotten bigger. Kraid COULD be part of a species.)

slow moving energy isn't going to be a problem...

I'm sure homing swarm missiles are no problem either?


CHEATS ARN'T CANNON... showing SA without her suit was just for fun... there not cannon... otherwise she wouldn't wear the suit if she could do it all without it.....

No, cheats AREN'T canon.

Metroid: Zero Mission. There's an entire part of the game with Samus suitless. Aside from her loss of the suits abilities(morphball, walljumping, missiles and a strong cannon) she's still able to easily support her bodyweight(Assuming the suit adds minimal height we can hazard she's at LEAST 6'4 naturally and at least 200lbs. This is of course assuming Samus' body is not altered physically in terms of density. The weight would be purely from her tall and well-built form(She doesn't need to look like the hulk to have muscle)...

So she can hold up 200lbs with one arm(she constantly uses her other arm to fire) and even lift it up easily. A well-trained athlete has no problem supporting and lifting their bodyweight, but there IS fatigue with only ONE arm. We'll ignore her doing it with the suit as it doesn't take a genius to know she's got augmented strength well beyond normal.

Samus can fall from great heights without hurting herself, so we can assume she's extremely resiliant. MC has no proof of being resiliant or strong outside the suit, so unfortunetly we can't measure him in the same light.

But this is all a moot point. Samus will be in her suit. Armed with an arm-cannon, missile launcher, ice beam, plasma beam, wave(electricity) beam, homing missiles(swarmers), light beam, dark beam, morph ball bombs, a built-in targeting system(She just needs to strafe MC and keep a lock on him) that will tell her of any weakpoints in his armor.

On top of that she's the best Bounty Hunter out there. She KNOWS how to spot the difference between an a feint and an actual injury/death. She'd also be able to tell if Master Chiefs weakness was displayed to lull her into a false sense of security.

Master Chief has been trained as well in this sense. Neither one knows the other one does, but we can assume from the games that neither one of them relies on cheap tricks to win.

1.We'll assume the battle takes place in a terrain built of half Talon IV and half Earth architecture so they both have a place to bring the fight home. The middle will be a totally alien(no pun intended) world to either of them. This will mean that anyone going into that area will have to assume the cliffs and caves there react the same to weight, light, sound, and heat the same ways as the caves on Earth/Talon IV.
Speaking of which, these areas are fully neutral. So no lava, water, ice, etc.

2.The areas of Talon IV and Earth will be neutral. No ice to keep MC off guard and no civilian areas for MC to grab a vehicle from.

3.NO vehicles. Because do you really wanna risk that the Warthog can withstand a blast from Samus' gunship?

4.No additional weaponry. Sure, Samus could pick up a pistol and sure MC could probably find a Space Pirate weapon. Neither one of them will. We'll assume all weapons are already on hand.

5.MC and Samus will be assumed fully equipped, fully loaded, but no reloads with mid-range ammo(meaning Samus gets 20 missiles, 50 light ammo, 50 dark ammo, 50 sonic ammo*This is to balance out the Sonic cannon using Light AND Dark ammo*, and MC gets a clip and a half of ammo with the full clip already in. In the case of Covenant weapons that use energy, he gets a full gun, and a half-full gun.)
No. I am not gonna give MC a handicap of infinite ammo because Samus does. That's not basing them off what they have but giving him a handicap. You're lucky I'm not giving her 150 missiles.

6.We'll assume both are at peak health, peak training, and peak add-ons sans stealth camo for MC. He DOES have an Overshield.

7.NO PHAZON ANYWHERE. I just know a MC fanboy who's play MP1 is gonna say "OMG MASTER CHIEF GRABS PHAZON AND COATS HIS BULLETS" or something. There is absolutely NO phazon.

8.Aside from MC, an impartial judge and 2 impartial witnesses orbiting the planet, this planets eco-system is 2 beings. Excluding plantlife, and no plantlife that will attack/damage either combatant at any time.

Assuming these are the rules, Samus would squeek a win out almost every time.

Those rules are pathetically and obviously biased. Of course she would win 😐

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I cannot beleive that this thing is still going on...

Snoop, I cant see the bias in those settings... those are completely even from what I can see (Well exept for the fact that Samus has unlimited energy for her basic beam weaponry... but thats cannon, thats how she plays...)

SSince he said fully equipped, be glad he didn't say Hyper Beam... 🙄

I honestly can't see MC overcoming Samus with her gear pimped out. It's just not happening.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
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I cannot beleive that this thing is still going on...

Snoop, I cant see the bias in those settings... those are completely even from what I can see (Well exept for the fact that Samus has unlimited energy for her basic beam weaponry... but thats cannon, thats how she plays...)

SSince he said fully equipped, be glad he didn't say Hyper Beam... 🙄

He said fully equipped, but MC has "Clip and a half of ammo". Unrealistic and unlikely. That's quite a bit less than it sounds.

He said fully equipped, but MC has "Clip and a half of ammo". Unrealistic and unlikely. That's quite a bit less than it sounds.

a clip and a half plus a full clip inside the gun already, also a full cov gun and a half full cov gun.. plz read

and MC gets a clip and a half of ammo with the full clip already in. In the case of Covenant weapons that use energy, he gets a full gun, and a half-full gun.

and MC gets a clip and a half of ammo with the full clip already in

The FULL CLIP IS ALREADY IN.

Covenant weapons are about equal to two magazines of a normal pistol. The Plasma pistol has 100 normal (weaker than any weapon in the game) shots, and 10 or so Charge-ups. Plasma rifles are equal to two reloads of an already full Battle Rifle. MC has the capability of having full ammunition for all... so why ISNT it biased when he is given considerably less than normal or optimal, when he is quite capable of ahving a LOT more rounds/bullets/energy than what was given.

Oh, and given without discussion, might I add. There were no agreements made, just someone's scenario.

I believe it takes 2 shots to expend 1 unit of energy (i refer solely to brute plasma rifle and regular).. unless its beam rifle or carbine, right?

and since there were no agreements.. just give chief the extra full clip, if its really that big of a deal.. considering all of you chief enthusiasts say he can headshot her with only 1 bullet..

edit : also, 1 clip of a battle rifle is alot apparently (enough to kill a spartan in-game). isnt it like 30 to 40 bullets per clip?..