Originally posted by SaTsuJiNI've looked at page 1 and i have to admit that this fight was over when this was written by SaTsuJiN 😄 😆
Chief is an amateur in this category.. samus has been wiping out aliens for nearly 2 decades.. and not to sound matrixian.. but she is becoming exceedingly efficient at it...
master chief has done it... once?... 😂
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Yeah I mean the overshield. If he has it in the game he can have it in this. Plus it recharges as normal. Basically I'm talking about a Dreadnought Master Chief
Erm, I have to disagree with you there. There are no extra pick ups just lying around. They both start in their most powerful forms, but their are no overshields or active camos lying around. Otherwise Samus should be allowed to have phazon pools.
Originally posted by thegmeister53
And isn't dodging weapons fire the same thign as dodging bullets?
In the Metroid games, most of the weapons used are energy-based, not projectile based. It does not travel nearly as fast as a bullet.
Dodging bullet fire is a lot harder because there is no "charge" time for a fired bullet. And it hits the target nearly instantaneously, depending on the range.
Originally posted by thegmeister
I also understand that there is a difference between the gut and the spine, but if MC is really as powerful as he is made out to be then it shouldn't make much of a difference in what area that the elite is hit. I could also use your own arguments against you about me beating the whole thing with melee. The Chief had to be turned down in the game to make it more even. But if he doesn't do it in the books or the games, then I'm inclined to believe that he isn't as fast as he is said to be.
Turned down? More like turned up. Apparently you've read The Fall of Reach; re-read the part where he takes on his first Elite in melee, and you will see what I mean.
And yes, he has done things in the books that he was physically capable of doing in the games. Most of them were simply not just in The Fall of Reach, but others. He melee'd two Elites in the back to get a banshee in Assault on the Control Room in the game, and did so in the book The Flood as well.
Originally posted by thegmeister
Well, whatever you want to call the situation with the bomb I still believe it to be luck with a bit of skill, but not much. And yes, I don't consider doing something in game a feat because it could just have been a simple game mechanic put in to move the game along. You see what I mean? If it were actually implemented into a cutscene or talked about or done in the book I could see what you're saying but simply running up to a tank and flipping it over instantly just seems a little weak. I don't think that it is part of the canon because it is not talked about or shown at all.
It is shown in The Flood that he lifted vehicles, but it was a Warthog. And no, Bungie did not just decide to "breeze" along and insert a simple game mechanic; if he was physically incapable of achieving such a task, do you think they would have done such a thing? They could have just as easily decide to screw that particular capability and have players look for another vehicle once theirs gets flipped.
Originally posted by swedish_bum
I've looked at page 1 and i have to admit that this fight was over when this was written by SaTsuJiN 😄 😆
And SaTsuJiN is flat-out wrong in that aspect.
Chief is not an amatuer. He's at least 36, and has been a professional soldier since the age of six. And he's been killing Covenant since their discovery.
Awwww, we're back to arguing? 😬
If we must. I wouldn't have really put it past Bungie to put something in a game that can't be done in a book. You see, Halo came before the books so it was much easier to simply say that to keep up with the story we're going to give MC an infinite amount of strength. Also given the amount of times that noobies flip over when they first use vehicles, the developers most likely thought that they should've found some way for them to learn how to drive. And could you remind me what we were agruing about with the weapons fire? It was so long ago that I forget what that was about.
You keep bringing up the fact that the spine is more vulnerable, but you keep missing the point. The spine is more vulnerable, but someone with MC's strength and speed should have no trouble quickly running up behind an elite and hitting him in the back. It doesn't matter if the elite is aware that MC is there, he should still be fast enough to perform such a feat. It's not like the elites have the supposed reflexes of the MC. And why are you saying that his abilities were turned up in game? It did take him forever to deal with that first elite. I was like wtf? I kicked so much ass in game how is this happening. But then when you get to the Flood, MC goes through very few instances where he has any trouble with elites. He simply speeds through them for the most part. That is why I'm saying he was turned down. There is also the matter of his speed and reflexes that people keep bringing up because he would be too powerful.
You also make it sound like because he did something in the book and in the games everything is perfect. The author simply wrote that scene based on his experience in the book. You forget that not everybody plays the same way. Perhaps somebody did not melee both elites in the back.