Master Chief vs Samus Aran

Started by thegmeister53144 pages
Originally posted by pacmaniac
i think samus would win, because of two reasons.
1) any lone human being that can take on an entire planet full of life sucking, brain mutating flesh eating X paraites, then go on to destroy another planet full of aliens twicee her size made of PURE EVIL and still have enough time to take on another entire planet infested with metroids, that even an entire frigin worldwide army couldnt take on, and still have enough time to do it all again twice, and then go off and save entire galaxys SINGLE HANDEDLY gets my vote.
2) samus is well fit.

Exactly. 😎

This was my 300 post. 😱

congratulations! 🤘

Originally posted by DarkC
The Chief was in the military at the age of SIX years old. He was pushed to the limit...they were going to make him a supersoldier.
Each morning: Wake up at dawn, 100 jumping jacks, 100 deep knee squats, 100 leg lifts, 100 sit ups.

😂 That's really not alot

I'd say Samus wins this one

Originally posted by Zen2nd
So what size is a galaxy?

milky way galaxy is where we are located.. and its basically a speck compared to the size of the universe

Okay, I'm gonna compare each one, and tell you who I personally think is better in that department I'm comparing. My oppinion is equal of both games, because I like them both alot. We take
MC. In the military at 6, and trained as if he was 30. Samus, born huntress, raised by an extremely technilogical race. MC.
MC created and genetically engenered (sp?) to be superhuman, given protective suit. Samus, infused with blood that makes her superhuman, given a suit that can be modified with more and more weapons, some of which are far more powerful than those that the chief wields. Samus.
MC scarab gun, not required to finish game, but extremely powerful. Samus, hyper beam, required to finish game, and just as powerful as the SG. Stalemate.
MC quick movements, sharp reaction time, and trained senses. Samus, quicker movements, better reaction time, and more in tune with the universe than most sentient beings. Samus.
MC has to scrap his way through a bunch of covenant, and seemingly endless hordes of flood. Samus, has to make her way through a bunch of pirates, but no where near the amount of enemies chief has to deal with. MC
MC, lives in space with a bunch of marines. Is supplied meals regularly. Samus, lives in space by herself, find her own food when she's off the ship. Samus.
MC, given orders, and troops to carry them out with. Samus, given missions, and told, "Hey, if you die, it's not our fault". Samus
My judgement, Samus, my an inch, wins the race for betterness

okay, I found this article on line about this guy who absolutely hates halo. Okay, here it is, and I got a picture form it too

Why Halo 1 and 2 suck

Halo is the most overrated crap in the entire world!! That's right you heard me. Nothing in this world is more overrated than Halo. The game has absolutely nothing original. The only good thing is that the graphics are good. But if I wanted to pay $50 for graphics I would buy Half-Life 2, oh and I would also get one the best games ever in Half-Life 2. Seriously, moron console gamers are ruining the game industry. Do they not realize how much better First Person Shooters are with a mouse and keyboard?

Somehow Halo 2 has already sold 3.3 million copies (12/04). That's 3.3 million Dumbasses that should be thrown into a wood chipper. Oh and not to mention that 1 million strategy guides have been sold so far too. That means that almost a third of the people that bought Halo 2 suck at video games.

Well back to why Halo is overrated. "OMG DUAL WIELDING R0X0RS 1337 H4X0RS!! LOL YoU dAmN NEwbinIZER!!!" Man you imbeciles get on my nerves. Have you ever heard of Goldeneye? The game came out in 1997 and you could wield a mix of any 2 guns from the entire game!

"Well Halo has vehicles you sTuPiD NUB!!!"

Oh wow vehicles! I can go play BF1942, or BattleTanx, or even the master of vehicles, Planetisde, with a mouse and keyboard rather than with that brick with warts you guys call a controller.

"But...uh...well....oh yeah! At least Halo's plasma grenades stick on people! That effect is teh AWESOME!!!1111"

That is a cool effect, too bad Perfect Dark did it first you pathetic nad eaters. There isn't even a health bar in Halo 2. HOW STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NOT HAVE A HEALTH BAR IN A GAME!!!!!!! It's ridiculous, no it's ludicrous! People say you die in one hit after you lose your shield but that is completely untrue. Oh and the fact that you have infinite lives and tons of checkpoints in missions just makes 1 player way too easy.

I've always hated the shield regeneration thing too because it encourages pussiness in multiplayer. "My shield is gone! OMG! I guess I better go be a pussy and hide behind this rock until it regenerates." Or how about this one. "Good thing this sniper rifle doesn't have recoil because then I might actually have to fight instead of being a pussy the entire game."

I can't stand how horrible this game is and how much people actually like it!!! It makes me want to smash my computer screen everytime I read about why "Halo is da bOMb!!!!" and then eat the shards of glass. How about we all come to our senses and agree Halo is a POS.

Oh and since I don't have time to name everything Halo stole, here is a picture to help. Provided by Ryan Purcell!

Hmmm, I wonder how dumb that person thinks I am. First, there are no Fed's in halo. So that pic at the bottom, it holds no credit. Most of the text, if not all, underneath the Covenant pictures is probably stuff he made up, I've never seen it anywhere else than right there. Plus, you have infinite lives and tones of checkpoints in Metroid too.

Seriously, you could take almost any Sci-Fi action game. FPS or not, and you could do the same thing. There is almost always an expert warrior, you, the player, and whats a Sci-FI game without marines?! Second, wow, aliens that want to kill you, wow, I'm sure every game that has evil aliens besides halo made them up. And with the flood, yeah, most games have a second alien race that's more powerful than the first.

Selling that many copies dosen't mean everyone is moron, it means halo is a good game. lol Believe me, I've played ALOT of FPS, and halo is still my favourite.

And there is a REASON you can't dual wield any two weapons in the game, one, dual wielding to sniper rifles is retarded, you can see through two scopes, two, you cant dual wield two rocket launchers, it's overly powerful, and you could not reload them.

Hey, if he finds single player to easy, it's probably because he sucks at halo, and has only ever played it on easy.

Oh, and the Masterchief could win this...

If you think about this reaslistically, both the MC and Samus would have been fried, they are both very lucky.

The MasterChief was taken at the age of six, and given military training that was given to Elite ODST at this age, at the age of Ten the Spartans could outmatch any marine squad against him, and the MasterChief is not fighting only for earth, he's fightning to save the galaxy, the combined 7 rings wipe out all life in the galaxy. ((Then why are the humans and Covenent alive if the rings fired?))

And, your basis of argument saying that Samus has done more can't hold much merit. I'm sure if the Chief was put in the same situation, that he would do just as well in a game perspective, (Think about it, if it was a realistic perspective, they'd both be dead.)) The MC HAS been fighting the Covenant all his life. The MC has heigheneed senses, reflexes, and physical, mental, and other abilities through intense training, genetic enhancement, cybernetic implants, and a 3 tonne billion dollar suit of armour.

Yes, the MC does have an AI, but the MC cannot jump in mid air and do all the other childish ((Maybe not the right word)) that Samus can. You can't say the MC would lose and take away some of his technology without taking away some of Samus's technology.

That article is so bad. For many reasons.

For the first whole paragragh he goes on about how crap Halo is and not even giving reasons. More of a rant than anything else.

His second paragraph then goes on to insult the players which has nothing to do with the game.

Well back to why Halo is overrated. "OMG DUAL WIELDING R0X0RS 1337 H4X0RS!! LOL YoU dAmN NEwbinIZER!!!" Man you imbeciles get on my nerves. Have you ever heard of Goldeneye? The game came out in 1997 and you could wield a mix of any 2 guns from the entire game!

Well if this guy wasn't so ignorant he would know that you can duel different types of weapons. In Goldeneye and Perfect Dark you had to duel the same type of weapons.

Oh wow vehicles! I can go play BF1942, or BattleTanx, or even the master of vehicles, Planetisde, with a mouse and keyboard rather than with that brick with warts you guys call a controller.

Thats only comparing the games and even says that Halo 2 is good since he is comparing it to good games which also have vehicles.

That is a cool effect, too bad Perfect Dark did it first you pathetic nad eaters. There isn't even a health bar in Halo 2. HOW STUPID DO YOU HAVE TO BE TO NOT HAVE A HEALTH BAR IN A GAME!!!!!!! It's ridiculous, no it's ludicrous! People say you die in one hit after you lose your shield but that is completely untrue. Oh and the fact that you have infinite lives and tons of checkpoints in missions just makes 1 player way too easy.

Just because some game did it first doesn't mean another game can't do it and make it better. If this guy was head of Microsoft we'd still have computers which you could only type word documents on.

I've always hated the shield regeneration thing too because it encourages pussiness in multiplayer. "My shield is gone! OMG! I guess I better go be a pussy and hide behind this rock until it regenerates." Or how about this one. "Good thing this sniper rifle doesn't have recoil because then I might actually have to fight instead of being a pussy the entire game."

He's just annoyed because he keeps getting killed and isn't good at the game.

Then he finishes with this. He barely gives any reasons and it seems the only reason he hates it is because so many people like the game

I can't stand how horrible this game is and how much people actually like it!!! It makes me want to smash my computer screen everytime I read about why "Halo is da bOMb!!!!" and then eat the shards of glass. How about we all come to our senses and agree Halo is a POS.

Originally posted by Liquid_Fire
If you think about this reaslistically, both the MC and Samus would have been fried, they are both very lucky.

The MasterChief was taken at the age of six, and given military training that was given to Elite ODST at this age, at the age of Ten the Spartans could outmatch any marine squad against him, and the MasterChief is not fighting only for earth, he's fightning to save the galaxy, the combined 7 rings wipe out all life in the galaxy. ((Then why are the humans and Covenent alive if the rings fired?))

And, your basis of argument saying that Samus has done more can't hold much merit. I'm sure if the Chief was put in the same situation, that he would do just as well in a game perspective, (Think about it, if it was a realistic perspective, they'd both be dead.)) The MC HAS been fighting the Covenant all his life. The MC has heigheneed senses, reflexes, and physical, mental, and other abilities through intense training, genetic enhancement, cybernetic implants, and a 3 tonne billion dollar suit of armour.

Yes, the MC does have an AI, but the MC cannot jump in mid air and do all the other childish ((Maybe not the right word)) that Samus can. You can't say the MC would lose and take away some of his technology without taking away some of Samus's technology.


Dude, I didn't take away any of MC's tech, so I don't know wtf you're thinking. I simply compared, and contrasted. Samus is a Huntress, and MC is a supersoldier. Read it at the bottom I said, "Samus wins by an inch in the race of betterness."

Original

Originally posted by theevilgood
Okay, I'm gonna compare each one, and tell you who I personally think is better in that department I'm comparing. My oppinion is equal of both games, because I like them both alot. We take
MC. In the military at 6, and trained as if he was 30. Samus, born huntress, raised by an extremely technilogical race. MC.
MC created and genetically engenered (sp?) to be superhuman, given protective suit. Samus, infused with blood that makes her superhuman, given a suit that can be modified with more and more weapons, some of which are far more powerful than those that the chief wields. Samus.
MC scarab gun, not required to finish game, but extremely powerful. Samus, hyper beam, required to finish game, and just as powerful as the SG. Stalemate.
MC quick movements, sharp reaction time, and trained senses. Samus, quicker movements, better reaction time, and more in tune with the universe than most sentient beings. Samus.
MC has to scrap his way through a bunch of covenant, and seemingly endless hordes of flood. Samus, has to make her way through a bunch of pirates, but no where near the amount of enemies chief has to deal with. MC
MC, lives in space with a bunch of marines. Is supplied meals regularly. Samus, lives in space by herself, find her own food when she's off the ship. Samus.
MC, given orders, and troops to carry them out with. Samus, given missions, and told, "Hey, if you die, it's not our fault". Samus
My judgement, Samus, my an inch, wins the race for betterness

corrected verson
Okay, I'm gonna compare each one, and tell you who I personally think is better in that department I'm comparing. My oppinion is equal of both games, because I like them both alot. We take
MC. In the military at 6, and trained as if he was 30. Samus, born huntress, raised by an extremely technilogical race, who were wiped out by space pirates....space pirates.... MC wins
MC created and genetically perfect human who was then engenered to be superhuman, given protective suit. Samus, infused with blood that makes her able to use the chozo tech, given a suit that can be modified with more and more weapons, some of which are far more powerful than those that the chief wields. Samus.
MC scarab gun,plasma sword, not required to finish game, but extremely powerful. Samus, hyper beam, no close range attacks, required to finish game, and just as powerful as the SG.
MC quick movements, instant reaction time, and trained senses. Samus more in tune with the universe than most sentient beings. MC
MC has to scrap his way through a bunch of covenant, and seemingly endless hordes of flood, he has done this without his suit as well.... Samus, has to make her way through a bunch of pirates at most 3 at a time, but no where near the amount of enemies chief has to deal with. MC
MC, lives in space with a bunch of marines. Is supplied meals regularly. Samus, lives in space by herself, find her own food when she's off the ship. Samus can cook....... its a suit upgrade.....
MC, given orders to defend earth......thats about it.....
Samus, given missions, and told, "Hey, if you die, it's not our fault".

Originally posted by theevilgood
Dude, I didn't take away any of MC's tech, so I don't know wtf you're thinking. I simply compared, and contrasted. Samus is a Huntress, and MC is a supersoldier. Read it at the bottom I said, "Samus wins by an inch in the race of betterness."

I wasn't refering to you, I was refering to the person who said the Chief gets the help of an AI.

MC given orders to defend earth. MC actually defends the galaxy, against Covenant legions, tidal waves of flood, and an army of ancient forrunner machines.

Liquid, Samus has accomplished more than the MC. How can you even compare them. Last time I checked Samus does things alone and doesn't require backup like MC does. You are completely disregarding all of Samus's accomplishments. There is no way that MC could take on Metroid Prime. Someone quick! Make a MC vs. Metroid Prime thread! When was the last time Samus needed somebody to watch her back? Never! She has single handedly been able to take apart the Space Pirates. I don't think we could say the same about MC in regards to the Covenant. He has the backing of the entire human fleet and is still losing the war against the Covenant. What does that tell you about MC's accomplishments? Put simply they such and Samus could do them in her sleep. Samus also defends the galaxy against the space pirates, a much more deadly threat. It's also not much of a big deal that MC has taken on waves of the Flood. One shotgun blast and they go down. There is no way that the flood are as strong as the metroids. Samus was also able to single handedly wipe out the metroids. I can hardly say the same for MC. And Chozo technology is much more advance than forerunner technology so it isn't impressive that MC took on an army of their machines. There is also nothing wrong with taking away Cortana from MC. Last time I checked Cortana parts with MC several times so it is possible for him to not have her.

Hit, that was a horrible attempt at a correction. Samus obivously wins in the training area. From your post you imply that the space pirates are weak, but they could easily take the elites. They are smarter, faster, and have much more powerful technology. I also doubt that an elite could handle the Omega Pirate. And the reason that the Space Pirates were able to wipe out the Chozo was because the Chozo forgoed technology in favor of peace so it's not much of a suprise that the space pirates were able to defeat them. How the hell is the scarab gun Halo canon? It was simply an easter egg so it shouldn't really count. You also don't know that MC has more heightened reflexes than Samus. We have actually seen Samus do amazing stuff in game. We haven't seen MC do shit except for the bomb in Halo 2, which was mostly luck and clearing out the scarab, which was basically eliminating the Covenant who controlled it, still not that impressive.

You are also making things up now to save MC. He has never gone up against the flood without his suit. Those were Covenant in First Strike he would have been easily killed if he fought the flood without his suit. You keep going on about MC going through endless scores of flood, but it takes one shot to kill them, the Metroids actually make you work abit. Master Chief might face more enemies, but his are nowhere near as powerful as Samus's. Just try switching them into each others game. Even if MC were tough enough to survive (which he isn't) what would happen when he runs out of ammo? I think you will find that he needs ammo more often than Samus needs health. What will he do? Run around his enemies and hit them at lightning speed? I can only imagine how that would affect the Omega Pirate, let alon Metroid Prime. Samus could easily survive in MC's world with her agility and superior weaponry.

We are comparing the MC and Samus not their technology. MC's enemies may have worse tech than some of Samus's, but MC has worse technology than Samus.

The only way to properly compare the two would be to have them fighting the same enemies, with the same kinds of weapons. And the MC never fought flood without the Spartan suits, he fought pirates and other people I think in a pototype ODST suit or something like that.

Originally posted by thegmeister53
Liquid, Samus has accomplished more than the MC. How can you even compare them. Last time I checked Samus does things alone and doesn't require backup like MC does. You are completely disregarding all of Samus's accomplishments. There is no way that MC could take on Metroid Prime. Someone quick! Make a MC vs. Metroid Prime thread! When was the last time Samus needed somebody to watch her back? Never! She has single handedly been able to take apart the Space Pirates. I don't think we could say the same about MC in regards to the Covenant. He has the backing of the entire human fleet and is still losing the war against the Covenant. What does that tell you about MC's accomplishments? Put simply they such and Samus could do them in her sleep. Samus also defends the galaxy against the space pirates, a much more deadly threat. It's also not much of a big deal that MC has taken on waves of the Flood. One shotgun blast and they go down. There is no way that the flood are as strong as the metroids. Samus was also able to single handedly wipe out the metroids. I can hardly say the same for MC. And Chozo technology is much more advance than forerunner technology so it isn't impressive that MC took on an army of their machines. There is also nothing wrong with taking away Cortana from MC. Last time I checked Cortana parts with MC several times so it is possible for him to not have her.

Hit, that was a horrible attempt at a correction. Samus obivously wins in the training area. From your post you imply that the space pirates are weak, but they could easily take the elites. They are smarter, faster, and have much more powerful technology. I also doubt that an elite could handle the Omega Pirate. And the reason that the Space Pirates were able to wipe out the Chozo was because the Chozo forgoed technology in favor of peace so it's not much of a suprise that the space pirates were able to defeat them. How the hell is the scarab gun Halo canon? It was simply an easter egg so it shouldn't really count. You also don't know that MC has more heightened reflexes than Samus. We have actually seen Samus do amazing stuff in game. We haven't seen MC do shit except for the bomb in Halo 2, which was mostly luck and clearing out the scarab, which was basically eliminating the Covenant who controlled it, still not that impressive.

You are also making things up now to save MC. He has never gone up against the flood without his suit. Those were Covenant in First Strike he would have been easily killed if he fought the flood without his suit. You keep going on about MC going through endless scores of flood, but it takes one shot to kill them, the Metroids actually make you work abit. Master Chief might face more enemies, but his are nowhere near as powerful as Samus's. Just try switching them into each others game. Even if MC were tough enough to survive (which he isn't) what would happen when he runs out of ammo? I think you will find that he needs ammo more often than Samus needs health. What will he do? Run around his enemies and hit them at lightning speed? I can only imagine how that would affect the Omega Pirate, let alon Metroid Prime. Samus could easily survive in MC's world with her agility and superior weaponry.

What aload of fanboy waffle... Seriously Do you even look at what you write??? flood are a much toughter enemy then metroids.. Only n00bs find Metroid hard... seriously... Are you a n00b at games? can you not handle metroids??? at the worst of times you take on like 3 at a time... 2 charged shots kills them... and you can dodge then liner attacks like nothing... SA never has to take on more then 5 enemies at once, and even then the other 4 stand around while you fight 1 on 1... comparing there chars story lines is lame... WOW SA has had more games then MC...

FACT...
MC stronger then SA
MC faster then SA
MC faster relexes then SA
MC will hit SA more
MC is more intelegent then SA

give him a BR and sword and he will own SA...

I do support the MC but he would not win this vs easily...I think it's near equal.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
What aload of fanboy waffle... Seriously Do you even look at what you write??? flood are a much toughter enemy then metroids.. Only n00bs find Metroid hard... seriously... Are you a n00b at games? can you not handle metroids??? at the worst of times you take on like 3 at a time... 2 charged shots kills them... and you can dodge then liner attacks like nothing... SA never has to take on more then 5 enemies at once, and even then the other 4 stand around while you fight 1 on 1... comparing there chars story lines is lame... WOW SA has had more games then MC...

FACT...
MC stronger then SA
MC faster then SA
MC faster relexes then SA
MC will hit SA more
MC is more intelegent then SA

give him a BR and sword and he will own SA...

Liquid, you have to compare their technology because it is a part of them. It helps to show just what kind of abilities and weapons they have at their disposal. You're right about MC not fighting flood without his suit, Hit is just making things up.

Hit, you are the only fanboy here. People are allowed an opinion, but you can't seem to realize that. That is so retarded,"only noobs find Metroids hard," I could say the exact same thing about the flood and say it's true. People also don't play video games the exact same way. I could also say you are a noob because you find the flood hard. One shot from the shotgun and they go down. You can actually take 2 down with one shot. The infection forms are also weak as hell and go down in one shot from anything. There is nothing special about the flood. They are all weak. Are YOU a noob? Can YOU not handle the flood? See, it works both ways so don't call somebody a noob if they have trouble with metroids, even though I don't have trouble with them. You basically said 2 charged shots and their dead. They can easily latch on to you in the time that it takes for you to use 2 charged shots, and for your information it's 3, not 2. Now, let's think how many shots it takes to take down an infection form, 1. A combat form, 1 w/ shotgun, which isn't hard to get, carrier form, 1. So if metroids take 2 and flood take 1, who is tougher? I also never said anything about Samus having more games than MC making a difference, but it does show that she has more experience. You keep making up these opinions. Space Pirates don't stand around when you fight them, they actually jump, dodge, etc, not like elites who I can just stand in one spot and shoot them, while they just stand there.

The only fact that you have right is that MC is stronger than Samus. I doubt that he is faster than her because again I have yet to see him perform any significant manuevers that show his speed. I also doubt his reflexes. I mean somebody who can react as fast as you say he can should never be hit, but he is many times. If the Covenant are able to get in shots on MC, then I can only wonder what Samus will do to him. And MC will hit Samus more? My ass, Samus is much too fast to be riddled with bullets. Even if she could MC's weapons are weak as hell. Bullets would barely do anything to her and even the energy sword would have limited abilities. Just because it can take out MC in two hits doesn't mean it will do the same to Samus because she has much better shielding. Last, there is no way for MC to be more intelligent than Samus. Samus, who was trained by masters of war? I doubt they only instructed her in combat, no human could compete with the Chozo in any form of intelligence. And if I remember correctly in the Space Pirate vs. Elite thread you said intelligence doesn't matter and that an elite could take out an engineer easily. So why don't you apply that logic now? Also why do you keep avoiding my arguments about how MC would survive in Samus's world? Is it because you know he couldn't?

This thread should not be labeled MC vs Samus, it should be labelled Spartan II vs Samus or Halo vs Metroid. You can't compare these two individuals because we have never seen them fight in similar circumstances. The chief would lose a fight to Samus because he is many years behind her in his technology. Each of these hero's does very well in their own world because each of them is built for their world.

To use the games as a reference is unfair, but it's all we have. Again, they are both excellent soldiers, but Samus has the advantage of her technology.

Well, MC would have a very hard time in Samus's world, in Samus's present time frame, but if MC was in her world at time similar to the Halo universe then it would make thing's more fair. I'll put it this way, I think MC is a better soldier, but Samus would most likely win a fight because she has much better technology. If you gave the MC some type of weapon on par with Samus's in her world, he'd be able to do her job, but the problem is, the MC has a Battle Rifle, Samus's weapons would make a Battle Rifle melt just by looking at them.

And yes, a single flood falls easier than a metroid, on normal, or easy, but there are alot more flood than metroids.

Yes, Elites in Halo One tend to stand still for a few seconds while they shoot, on easy, or normal, trying playing on legendary, or legendary on Halo 2, or even heroic, they use their cover, and they only tend to stand still usually when the player is cowering behind something. ((Yes I've done that))

And MC has faster reflexes, his suit is designed to react as fast as his thoughts, and with the genetic experiments done on his cortext, he has very fast thoughts.

As for speed, the MC can run about 40mph

As for intellegence, I think that's very close, but MC was trained with the most extreme of ODST drills when he was only 7 years old. He is very cunning.

The problem with the Battle Rifle is that it's probably underpowered against Samus, give him a MAC Combat Assault Rifle prototype and then that help. As for the sword, I don't think Samus would ever let him get close enough to use a sword.

I think the Master Chief is a better soldier, but I think Samus would win in a fight.

One thing: we are comparing both games on normal. The rest of what you said I could live with. 😄