Magneto | X-Man

Nate Grey : Full control over powers.

Erik Magnus Lenshierr : Full potential. to balance it out, lets acknoledge Magneto's experience.

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i dont think there is nearly as much fun to have with this as was the magneto vs hulk thread. when you think about it mags would be immune to psi attacks cuz of his helmet. and techinically the way magneto wraps objects in electromagnetic bubbles(even nonmetals) mimic telekiniesis so it would boil down to who can lift heavier stuff to drop on each other.

but X-man does have that reality warping thing going for him tho, but on the other hand unless he shileds himself with a teke-field mags would have free reign on his blood. but i know that someone will say yes he sheilds himself with a teke-field

but alas this one goes to xman

Magneto may be able to protect himself from low-level telepaths, but he's not wearing Juggernaut's helmet here, and Nate Grey is the single most powerful psi in the entire Marvel pantheon. Needless to say, the Master of Magnetism is quite outclassed. There's a first time for everything.

Magneto isn't " immune " to psionic attacks. He merely has degree of resistance against it due to his helmet. It shields him from most psionic attacks. But we're talking about X-Man here. He's way more potent than the Dark Phoenix and Xavier combined. He'd have little trouble ripping through Magnus' mind and having his way with him. It's a long battle and I've got to take some time to think about it. Magneto is NEVER one to be taken lightly. I don't care who you are.

Not more then Dark pheonix. Your underating D.P.

Yes, more than the Dark Phoenix. It's confirmed in Cable issue #29. Read and understand. Moira Mactaggart states that Nate Grey's energy levels are more than likely above those of the Dark Phoenix.

Moira mctaggart is wrong. A lot.

Dark pheonix = feared throughout galaxy.

X-man = feared throughout earth.

read on one comic that magneto can further more protect himself from psi attack with his Force Field, nothing is going thru.

yes magneto has resistance against telepathy (without his helmet), but we are talking about nate grey the most powerful telepath in earth, and yes nate would win this one.

if this was an all mighty magneto that could protect himself against nate´s telepathy i think he could take him down.

dark phoenix would beat nate grey.

first of all , nate IS more powerful than dark pheonix, secondly, nate and franklin richards are the two most powerful mutants in the world, and magneto probably is like somewhere in the top 5, so, after a hard fight{maybe}, nate shoves magneto's own helmet up his ass.

Nate can destroy the entire universe? If not then how is he more powerful than Pheonix?

Either way the thread does say Magneto at "full potential." So if his magnetism can afford him some psychic protection then it's reasonable to assume that a "full potential" Magneto could do something in his defense.

yea he could, infact he might even be able to do something about most of the telepaths but not against nate fer heaven's sake, and dark pheonix was given SOME power of the PHEONIX FORCE, and it was the pheonix force that was a threat to all of existance, not dark pheonix, dark pheonix was just a manifestation of that force with only a hint of its powers. any way, even without telepathy nate can produce destructive psionic spikes, generate illusions, create extremely destructive reactions in matter, and even rip a mino paradox in time{and he could do all this when he wasnt even able to control, let alone, master his powers}, hes also a great telekenetic. hell he destroyed half a state with a single large scale psionic burst, not to ,mention that he FORCED XAVIER, XAVIER! out of the astral plane, something that xavier had belived, was impossible.

and this he did WITHOUT even having enough control over his power to keep his own powers from harming him, just imagine what he would become when he had FULL control over his powers.

neway, even without the control of his power, he beat the living crap out of apoaclypse until his submission and he wouldv killed him if cyclops hadnt talked him out of it.

nate is one of the most powrful mutants in earth, dark pheonix is one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

nate would beat regular magneto, we would have to make an update on magneto character, making him god-level like nate, so he would be able to beat him or at least make a fight that would last for ever.

Again, the thread says "full potential." This is a "god-like" Magneto we're talking about. Please take this into consideration.

i did

yea, but for all we know, nate was GOD LIKE, before he even had enough control to stop his powers from harming himself, he even beat apocalypse without havin much control of his powers{hell, do you remeber when he fought cable, cable managed to infuriate him too much and that made him OVERLOAD and lose conciousness, if it wasnt for cable's help, he might have been seriously hurt , or killed, thats just how little control he had over his power} so just imagine what he would become when he DID HAVE FULL CONTROL of his powers.

i didnt take the full potential thing into consideration. that being said i think magneto wouldnt fall so quickly, bcuz remember mags has shown to have a very limited command of telepathy, so him at a godlike level would probably mean that his telepathy could possibly elevate to a "normal" jean grey level. which could further make him impervious to psi attacks.

however, when charcters have telekinesis like nate does, they basically have psionic control over all matter on all levels, but nate being the telekinetic supreme of the MU, im sure he surpasses the conventional levels of matter manipulation. so he would certainly have the same if not a more profound level of control over magnetism that magneto does. plus he could unmake anything mags can concoct.

as much as i like to argue for magneto, even with his godlike power level, i only see him convincingly defending himself for a very long time, perhaps even landing quite a few devastating blows along the way but he would just be merely delaying the inevitable. cuz nate with FULL control of his powers is unstoppable. he could proably F around and create life. at that level he's on par with any major cosmic being, without himself being cosmic.

Well said manjaro.

I was trying to make it equal but still have argumentable value by giving nate full control over his power and giving magneto a full potential. magneto may have protection from psi attacks but nate's powers' are too much to fully hold back. plus those psi attacks are only telepathic, nate is tha most powerfull telekinetic too - which itself is equal or aguably superior to a full potential magneto.

However magneto has tons more experience and genius. i know for a damn fact that he wont be easy to defeat, but in tha long run it will probably go to X-Man.

So, with that said [unless you disagree]...wut do you guys think about a regular match-up? a nate grey with medium control over his vast powers and a magneto with medium power levels?