hmm...Im not sure the telepathy thing is going to be such a sure thing...Reed Richards easily neutralized X-man's telepathy with a relatively low tech solution by his standards...Magneto is no Richards but he is a genius and would more than likely have a powerful telepathy defense considering guys like Chuck r always around. a full potential Nate would certainly have an advatage in the category: focused, ultr powerful, concentrated telekinetic and pyro kinetic blasts...Magneto has demonstrated some pretty nasty focused destruction in his days but not like x-man, and not as easily...this is why i alsways go with Hulk in the Hulk vs Mag discussion. Mags is the better experienced and better strategist, this will be his most valuable weapon. using his brain and strategy to take down nate...magneto might be a little nastier.
hmmm, actually, im not sure that using a long ass thought of plan is fair in a fight like this, anyway, the i dont think that nate's psionic power will just let nate die {i say this because something similar happened to cable when he was shot twice but wouldnt die because of his great psionic strength, and you all are forgetting one thing, apocalypse is more powerfull than mags, both at full potential or at recent potential, and nate beat the shit out of him quiet easily, so that means that nate even without his expirience is more powerful than mags. i believe that nate takes this one.
he killed apocalypse, but he died himself too. in the aoa
wrong, he killed apoc, magneto didnt die to that. So anyways I started to read some of the old Uncanny comics since I was pretty bored, and I noticed Magneto had telepathy! well could project himself like Xavier does.. and they said "the 2nd most powerful mind" behind Xavier... So im starting to read them all over again to see when he lost his telepathy. or maybe he doesnt bother using it anymore? dunno!.
Magneto and Xavier are brothers. Their relationship of closeness since early childhood is fishy. Magneto also changed his name, its not Erik Magnus Lensherr. Some guy knew tha real name but mags killed him. I think xavier knows his real name. It would also explain why Magneto has telepathy and has a brotherly relationship with Charles.
ok ill try to explain just how powerful nate is. in reality nate is very near in potential power to the celestials and let me tell u y. when apocalypse planned to syphon off the power of the 12 mutants of incredible power, he was actually tryin to recreate the lost power source of the celestials, and he needed the twelve mutants to gain enough power to be able to partially overcome the psionic power of nate grey and to GAIN the body of nate grey. if he was actually able to get the body of nate, he would be able to use nate's powers and would hence finally be as powerful as the celestials. so u see nate is just way too powerful for mags to defeat{need i remind u that mags was also just ONE of the twelve mutants whose combined powers would combine with those of the powerful apocalypse, just to create enough power to ENTER, apocalypse in the body of x man.}
Originally posted by MERCILOUS
Again, the thread says "full potential." This is a "god-like" Magneto we're talking about. Please take this into consideration.
There's no reason to think that a "full potential" Magneto would be all that powerful to begin with.
DP is a cosmic being, so comparisons to her are absurd.
X-Man, although not on par with DP, certainly outclasses Mags simply on the basis of the fact that he can alter reality (and hence physical laws) to such an extent that Magneto's powers become useless...
Nate Grey with full control is the most powerfull mutant on marvel earth 616, second to franklin richards. in regular terms magneto is feeble in comparison.
Nates own powers being so great, created a misplacement in X-titles since writers had a ***** time pitting him against worthy rivals. that is why his story started to direct in ways of abnormal paths like those "shaman" days where regular X-title characters were rarely mentions. this is part of tha reason why he was cancelled, his last damn comic had nothing to do with any x-character yet his name is X-Man. it is really sad...but not tha point. my point is that Nate Grey's powers should never be underestimated or misjudged. tha question is could magneto with more experience and full potential take him based on those 2 offerings.
A battle between Magneto and X-Man comes down to "magnetism vs. psychokenesis". While the principles of magentism are fairly well understood, there is no widely accepted theory or proposed mechanism that explains how psychokenesis occurs. Because the mechanics and limitations of psychokenesis are not known, there is no way to determine who would win.
In reality Adam_PoE, u are right.
But this is Marvel, we KNOW wut kind of things x-man can do. except hes not limited to only metalic objects and magnetic field related tricks.
X-man has more powers in terms of strength and also quantity. He has both 1st order Telepathy and Telekinetics. his telekinesis even allows him molecular conversion. if he wanted he could mind control 50 other mutants against magneto.
He is almost a pure psionic being that can resurrect madelyne pryor out of ****ing thin air, rip xavier out of tha astral place, etc and that was not at his max potential/control. his death saved every organism on earth. in essence he didn't save just humanity, but all of LIFE on earth. that is to show how significant and powerfull he could be if his story ever allowed him a full life such as magneto's.