Why isn't anyone gay in HP? · Harry Potter

Diamond~Kisses I'm Special.

It's a childrens book, and, without trying to upset anyone, the children that read them may get slightly confused.

PS: I DO NOT judge people by their sexuality, and I fully support gay/lesbian/bisexual people. Just so you know 🙂

MistressofSnape Slytherin's Bookaholic

Originally posted by dansdaman
thats horrible...being gay is not a sin in any way...you should accept people for who they are

😕I don't beleive in sins...I think you took me all wrong there. I DO except people for who they are. I'm just saying that Snape would be very insulted by somebody putting him with Harry. It's not the gay issue, it's because it's Harry.

Dordaness GOFFIKKING MAN 666!!!one!

Harry is so gay.

~dorkerina~ Senior Member

There is just no reason!!! and by the way i'm not a homophob, i already said, i just really don't think they are necisary to have in everything, thats like someone banning every novel that doesn't talk about grass. hehe....

The Phantom Angel of Music

Originally posted by TheSun
You're being a bit naive here - you can say 'there's nothing wrong with it' all you want, and I'll agree with you - but the fact remains that a large percentage of people think there is, and they're entitled to their beliefs just as much as you. It doesn't make them wrong, it just means that their views differ. If they were put into the HP novels, then there would be huge controversy, and would take the focus off the actual storyline, thus ruining what has been a great series.

Okay, I said this already. I'm not saying put it in the books! I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with it.

lioness_pride Senior Member

there is nothng wrong with gay/lesbian/bisexuals, but dont put in a Harry Potter. it already has romance violence and magic. the parents of the younger kids who like to read HP might not let them read it because of the content. I mean it has gotten alot darker and more serious since the first book, just read the first pages of the 1st and 6th book it is not hard ot see a significant difference.
i do NOT mean to offend ANYONE but it doesnt fit in.

Saratn Bringer of Life

Originally posted by TheSun
I don't think you understand me - Sirius is straight, Lupin is straight, Gandalf is straight - Thewlis, Mckellen and Oldman aren't. They ewre playing straight characters, hence the performance didn't suffer. Comprendé?

the actor himself is gay, but it didn't affect the role he was playing now did it?

Diamond~Kisses I'm Special.

Originally posted by Saratn
the actor himself is gay, but it didn't affect the role he was playing now did it?

Exactly.

If you found out somebody you knew was gay/lesbian/bi, would you stop being friends with them?

And, all the characters in the book are pretty much straight now, so nothing is going to change.

Originally posted by lioness_pride
there is nothng wrong with gay/lesbian/bisexuals, but dont put in a Harry Potter. it already has romance violence and magic. the parents of the younger kids who like to read HP might not let them read it because of the content. I mean it has gotten alot darker and more serious since the first book, just read the first pages of the 1st and 6th book it is not hard ot see a significant difference.
i do NOT mean to offend ANYONE but it doesnt fit in.

Agreed. That's what I was trying to say, but I'm rubbish at wording my sentences.

The Phantom Angel of Music

Originally posted by lioness_pride
there is nothng wrong with gay/lesbian/bisexuals, but dont put in a Harry Potter. it already has romance violence and magic. the parents of the younger kids who like to read HP might not let them read it because of the content. I mean it has gotten alot darker and more serious since the first book, just read the first pages of the 1st and 6th book it is not hard ot see a significant difference.
i do NOT mean to offend ANYONE but it doesnt fit in.

Originally posted by Diamond~Kisses
Exactly.
If you found out somebody you knew was gay/lesbian/bi, would you stop being friends with them?
And, all the characters in the book are pretty much straight now, so nothing is going to change. Agreed. That's what I was trying to say, but I'm rubbish at wording my sentences.

I'm not saying put them in the book...

TheSun Senior Member

Originally posted by Saratn
the actor himself is gay, but it didn't affect the role he was playing now did it?

Grr, OK, I'll try one more time. Why wasn't the role he was playing affected? Because it was a straight role. Exactly the same as if a straight person was playing the role. No difference because he is an actor, and he doesn't let his personality affect his role, the same with any actors. If the character however wasn't straight, then the actor would not play him straight. Such a character has no place in the Harry Potter books. Do you understand the difference?

zombieman The Undead

Originally posted by TheSun
Grr, OK, I'll try one more time. Why wasn't the role he was playing affected? Because it was a straight role. Exactly the same as if a straight person was playing the role. No difference because he is an actor, and he doesn't let his personality affect his role, the same with any actors. If the character however wasn't straight, then the actor would not play him straight. Such a character has no place in the Harry Potter books. Do you understand the difference?

Pardon my French, but what a patronising bastard.

Diamond~Kisses I'm Special.

Originally posted by The Phantom
I'm not saying put them in the book...

I know that. I was replying to Catherine CSI

Originally posted by TheSun
Grr, OK, I'll try one more time. Why wasn't the role he was playing affected? Because it was a straight role. Exactly the same as if a straight person was playing the role. No difference because he is an actor, and he doesn't let his personality affect his role, the same with any actors. If the character however wasn't straight, then the actor would not play him straight. Such a character has no place in the Harry Potter books. Do you understand the difference?

So are you saying who cares if Dan's gay, Harry's not, or whatever?

Originally posted by zombieman
Pardon my French, but what a patronising bastard.

😂

TheSun Senior Member

Originally posted by zombieman
Pardon my French, but what a patronising bastard.

Hmm, you really are misinterpreting a lot aren't you? (That was patronising). If you read the previous posts by me directed at Saratn you would see that I was simply trying to express my meaning, soemthing which I obviously failed at because he didn't get it. No patronising, just trying to make myself clear. Please don't jump to conclusions like that, and in such a crude way.

zombieman The Undead

Yes but the like of "comprende?", and "do you understand the difference?" come across as very condescending.

TheSun Senior Member

Originally posted by zombieman
Yes but the like of "comprende?", and "do you understand the difference?" come across as very condescending.

Only if people are looking for something to moan about.

zombieman The Undead

Yeah, because it is not like you to scour this forum in search of comments to criticise, not like you at all (and just for the record, this is called sarcasm).

Saratn Bringer of Life

Originally posted by TheSun
Grr, OK, I'll try one more time. Why wasn't the role he was playing affected? Because it was a straight role. Exactly the same as if a straight person was playing the role. No difference because he is an actor, and he doesn't let his personality affect his role, the same with any actors. If the character however wasn't straight, then the actor would not play him straight. Such a character has no place in the Harry Potter books. Do you understand the difference?

their is no difference. A gay actor playing a straight part makes no difference to how the movie is.
a gay character in the hp books won't have any effect on the book. a book is a book so what?

TheSun Senior Member

Originally posted by Saratn
their is no difference. A gay actor playing a straight part makes no difference to how the movie is.
a gay character in the hp books won't have any effect on the book. a book is a book so what?

OK, last time - if a straight actor plays a character who isn't straight, the character isn't straight. If a straight character is played by an actor who isn't straight, the character is still straight. Yeah? So the audience only sees the straight character, regardless of what the actor actually is. However - if in a book, a character is not straight, what do the audience see? A non straight character. Such a character would ruin the Harry Potter novels, whereas a straight character in a film, whether or not he/she is played by a straight actor, is still construed as straight. Because actors pretend to be straight if their character is straight? Yes? Sorry, but I can't put it any more simply than that.

Saratn Bringer of Life

Originally posted by TheSun
OK, last time - if a straight actor plays a character who isn't straight, the character isn't straight. If a straight character is played by an actor who isn't straight, the character is still straight. Yeah? So the audience only sees the straight character, regardless of what the actor actually is. However - if in a book, a character is not straight, what do the audience see? A non straight character. Such a character would ruin the Harry Potter novels, whereas a straight character in a film, whether or not he/she is played by a straight actor, is still construed as straight. Because actors pretend to be straight if their character is straight? Yes? Sorry, but I can't put it any more simply than that.

and as i will say for the last time and i hope that your bright enough to figure this out...C O M E
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TheSun Senior Member

Originally posted by Saratn
and as i will say for the last time and i hope that your bright enough to figure this out...C O M E
B A C K L A T E R W H E N Y O U S T A R T M A K I N G S E N S E. T H E N W E S H A L L T A L K

I don't understand why you're being so hostile? My words make absolute perfect sense, whether you can understand them or not. Please grow up before you start debating with someone.