who created god

I am not sure if good exists,
i got different Ideas I can't decide, first of all I belive in Nietzsche who says there are no good deeds only selfish, then I am a utilitariaist and belive good is what is useful, the third thing is I am not through with that whole predestiantion stuff and I am all in all rather indolent
so I can't decide, but I have an Idea what you are talking about when you say good since my parents probably considered the same good.
And now I answered the wquestion I am not sure if good exists from my point of view now I'd rather say no it doesn't.

animals have affection for their kins and group. It is a natural emotion in many of the differnt spiecies that live on htis planet.........humans developed the emotions further, yet the animal instinct in us can take the better of us especially when it gets to protect our offsprings. So humans are in my a product of the evolution this planet has to offer

Animals do not have objective moral standards. They exhibit behavior that is beneficial for their species to continue to survive but that is a herd mentality.

Do you believe that we have objective moral standards?

And now I answered the wquestion I am not sure if good exists from my point of view now I'd rather say no it doesn't.

So lets suppose you had a daughter and somebody were to save her life, you wouldnt be sure whether or not that was good? I would tell you that is objectively good but you wouldnt even know. So I assume you wouldnt even say thank you and probably not acknowledge that act at all. In fact you wouldnt feel relieved or happy that such an act happend, you would be emotionless.

Hmmm clarify objective moral standards for a stupid german

Do you believe that we have objective moral standards?

No that would be perfection.
I as a person would be relieved and if you define good as something that I like then yes there is a good, but I wouldn't belive that he did it for a good reason, but for a selfish one which on the definition given before would seem good to me.

Objective moral standards, actions are inherently good or bad, regardless of the consequences.

ying yang

No that would be perfection.
I as a person would be relieved and if you define good as something that I like then yes there is a good, but I wouldn't belive that he did it for a good reason, but for a selfish one which on the definition given before would seem good to me.

Sure, positive or desirable.

What do you think about fireman? That they are selfish in saving people?

Yes I do (well to 25%)
It is a selfish deed no one does anything without a reason that justifies it. Just my popinion though.

firemen?, well it is their job

we like to think we have, but we havent got their yet

So you dont believe in an actual right and wrong? Ok fair enough.

But say I were to make a bet with you for 500 dollars. Lets say you win but I decide not to pay you because I dont feel like it. You would not be angry and feel that this was wrong?

Anyway... ill continue this some other time.

Yes I would cause I am human and I want to have things that are good for me, that is something else then good thouigh iot is instinct.
I will respond tommorow if you ask me something else I have to go now, maybe you can read up on nietzsche he is kind of an interesting guy.

So you dont believe in an actual right and wrong? Ok fair enough.

But say I were to make a bet with you for 500 dollars. Lets say you win but I decide not to pay you because I dont feel like it. You would not be angry and feel that this was wrong?

Originally posted by finti
I do believe in right and wrong I just dont think we can handle it well enough though, casue what might seem right one place is wrong another

like adam and the apple... he thought he'd be right but it was wrong... if there is a god, and he gave us a free will... and adam was the origin of man... we would have the same problems with knowing whats right or wrong....

( when i think about that right now it reminds me of "Snow White and the seven dwarfs"... Snow White eats a forbidden fruit too... 🤨 )

sry my post probably didnt help with the topic but thats what came to my mind....

hey maybe the earth is the beta-test and heaven will be the final version 😆

im out.... not to presage what else will come to my mind 😆

Originally posted by clickclick
So lets suppose you had a daughter and somebody were to save her life, you wouldnt be sure whether or not that was good? I would tell you that is objectively good but you wouldnt even know. So I assume you wouldnt even say thank you and probably not acknowledge that act at all. In fact you wouldnt feel relieved or happy that such an act happend, you would be emotionless.

Suppose he was the one who put her in danger. If he wanted to harm her, he probably would not be very relieved or happy.

I do believe in right and wrong I just dont think we can handle it well enough though, casue what might seem right one place is wrong another

Suppose he was the one who put her in danger. If he wanted to harm her, he probably would not be very relieved or happy.

Again you are talking about beliefs rather than truths. Saving a little girls life is objectively good.

firemen?, well it is their job

Yes and do you think they are doing it for the big dollars they are raking in? Im gonna say no. Its a very dangerous job. Also, some people are volunteer fire fighters.

Bradock,

Yes I do (well to 25%)
It is a selfish deed no one does anything without a reason that justifies it. Just my popinion though.

What if the reason is to help that person or what have you? What do you mean by 25% I wasnt exactly sure there.

I do believe in right and wrong I just dont think we can handle it well enough though, casue what might seem right one place is wrong another

So you believe it exists but not objectively?

Like if I were to saying that raping somebody is wrong, you dont believe that is an objective truth?