who created god

Originally posted by inimalist
I asked you to debate this

Which is what I'm doing now. You want a debate I'm giving you one.

Originally posted by inimalist

you insinuated I called you a piece of shit

No I didn't where did I state you called me a piece of shit? That was Omega Vision.

Originally posted by inimalist

reply all you want, I'm not engaging you on this matter

You're not debating because I implied you called me a piece of shit which never happened? You're not replying because I said I'd think about it and I'm doing it now? Ok fair enough.

Who's Omega Vision? Is he one of our elitist club?

Here we go took you're time about turning up. A bit quicker next time.

Originally posted by Deadline
Which is what I'm doing now. You want a debate I'm giving you one.

No I didn't where did I state you called me a piece of shit? That was Omega Vision.

You're not debating because I implied you called me a piece of shit which never happened? You're not replying because I said I'd think about it and I'm doing it now? Ok fair enough.

chalk it up to my atheistic arrogance

Originally posted by inimalist
chalk it up to my atheistic arrogance

No not in that specific instance. I'm not saying that people always misunderstand me because they're arrogant and it's not just one instance. There are numerous events that have happened and after awhile it gets irritating.

The fact of the matter is you are now making excuses. You wanted a debate I'm giving you one, did I say you called me a piece of shit..no.

You got no excuse now. You wanted to debate before now you don't.

sure I do, the best excuse ever:

I don't want to

Originally posted by Deadline
Here we go took you're time about turning up. A bit quicker next time.

I'm not here to "help" anyone. I don't know which one of you is right, in fact I haven't read the last couple of pages I'm not even sure what it is about. I honestly have nothing against you, I quite like you actually, you used to always be up for a debate at least, and had good points and were fair even if we disagree.

But in this other thread you were just accusing people instead of participating, and you didn't even outright state what it is you take offense with, so we could have a civil discussion about it. Thing is you might have a point, I don't like everything about the way inimalist, digi or symmetric chaos debate, I definitely don't like a lot about how I used to debate, and I don't like everything I do now (usually a couple hours later I'm like "wtf, why did I say that"😉, but you are not doing that in a fair and straightforward manner, but rather in an accusing, victim-playing and very vague way, which I don't like.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm not here to "help" anyone. I don't know which one of you is right, in fact I haven't read the last couple of pages I'm not even sure what it is about. I honestly have nothing against you, I quite like you actually, you used to always be up for a debate at least, and had good points and were fair even if we disagree.

But in this other thread you were just accusing people instead of participating, and you didn't even outright state what it is you take offense with, so we could have a civil discussion about it. Thing is you might have a point, I don't like everything about the way inimalist, digi or symmetric chaos debate, I definitely don't like a lot about how I used to debate, and I don't like everything I do now (usually a couple hours later I'm like "wtf, why did I say that"😉, but you are not doing that in a fair and straightforward manner, but rather in an accusing, victim-playing and very vague way, which I don't like.

Oh keep quiet. I raised this issue with you, you were caught red handed and tried to deny it. I'm just going to take it to the mods. Don't waste my time.

Originally posted by inimalist
sure I do, the best excuse ever:

I don't want to

You decided that you don't want a debate based on the fact that you asked for one and I'm now giving you one. You also decied not have one after it was established I did not insinuate that you called me a piece of shit.

The conditions for a debate have been met and it's been established I did not do that. What you are doing now is being petty and just trying to score points. How does trying to score points actually contradict what I'm saying about debating styles? You are focusing in on the fact that you could easily misunderstood what I said, while Ignoring the fact thats not what I mean't and you're getting the debate you asked for.

No were did I ever state that I'm perfect I've also stated that I've done it before. It's not just one incident or one person. People have asked my to express my grievances and I'm trying to do it, now you don't want to debate.

Anyway I'm going to reply to the posts wether you're going to reply or not.

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh keep quiet. I raised this issue with you, you were caught red handed and tried to deny it. I'm just going to take it to the mods. Don't waste my time.

Again you are making vague accusations. What in the world did I do to you? What have I done now? Why do you refuse to support your accusations when civilly asked?

No one created god. People only create an illusion or perception of god.

well, if god created the known universe, then we originated from something that originated from him. I think if he brought our KNOWN UNIVERSE into existence, and not care about us now, it was as easy for him as taking a breath is for us.

Well, from what I gleam from the bible is this universe was created by God while in a separate reality-dimension-whatever. Almost remotely through his spirit. This reality is finite, with a beginning and an ending, but the "other" reality has always been there and will always be there. We are from there, well are souls are, and we will go back after death. In the end, this universe will be folded up like a scroll, all the stars, moons and suns are gone. The bible, in english, says the earth's elements will be melted away, but the greek says rudiments. It says the earth will be renewed and all things made of flesh are turned into thier spirit body(remember the bible says no man can see the face of God and live?). Anyway, it seems like at the end, this universe is destroyed but the earth is pulled into the "other" dimension with God. Hence all things flesh can't enter. Why? Because you have to die to go there, and since flesh is alive, it has to be shed. .after writing this i see it is way off topic. 😂

So the world is kinda like a game, that God created for us. Perhaps we are Gods equals, but in this particular game play a weakened role, since we are the players and he's the artist who crafted the experience for us?

Originally posted by Bardock42
So the world is kinda like a game, that God created for us. Perhaps we are Gods equals, but in this particular game play a weakened role, since we are the players and he's the artist who crafted the experience for us?

Originally posted by long pig
Not a game, a proving ground. As for being God's equals....no, we are his children BUT you're on the right track. Check out Gen Chap 1. "And God said let us create man in our own image". The word God isn't "El" which only means God. Instead it says "Elohim", which is the plural form of God. But always means "God and his host". So, yes. It says Gods, and those Gods (heavenly beings) had man created in each and everyone's image. Possibly we on earth look like we did in the other reality. We have to be born of woman, go through this world, then die and go back to the place we came. The bible says all men must die to live and mentions having to be born of woman. Some angels refused to be born of woman in Gen 6. Fallen angels.

Perhaps we are just the avatars of those other heavenly beings. Like I control the Prince in Prince of Persia, but I am not the Prince, but for the time I play it my focus is on him, and to a degree limited by the engine (God's creation).

I like it, I'm going to make my own Religion....with blackjack.....and hookers!!!

TheFallen angels, or Nephilim, are the ones who saw women, came down and had hybrids...called Geber. Or giants. Those angels have already been judged.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Perhaps we are just the avatars of those other heavenly beings. Like I control the Prince in Prince of Persia, but I am not the Prince, but for the time I play it my focus is on him, and to a degree limited by the engine (God's creation).

I like it, I'm going to make my own Religion....with blackjack.....and hookers!!!

Originally posted by long pig
TheFallen angels, or Nephilim, are the ones who saw women, came down and had hybrids...called Geber. Or giants. Those angels have already been judged.

Isn't that Muslim ideology? or are there christian/jewish roots to those stories?

Originally posted by long pig
That's exactly what we are. Divine soul in a flesh body.

So our flesh body was created, but our souls are like God and eternal and powerful?

I love when you guys get mystical (more/less). 😎