Can U believe this: Texas Woman cuts off her babies arms

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
So what if a person does all of the above, and then snaps one day and cuts her baby's arms off? All of a sudden she's not Christian anymore?

And what if, afterward, she's truly sorry, and repents...

You'd still not believe her?

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
So what if a person does all of the above, and then snaps one day and cuts her baby's arms off? All of a sudden she's not Christian anymore?

Yeah thats what i'm saying. That would be a sin, didn't say she couldn't be forgiven from it, but it is a sin.

Originally posted by MornGlory
but this isnt a long time ago - its NOW

So?

I don't understand that somehow, Muslim extremists get branded as evil, when they are attacking what they believe to be a substantial enemy to their people, whereas crazy Christians who flip and kill their own families are just 'not christians'.

You can't just disown someone like that - there's still responsibility! Bush, an avid christian, has signed hundreds of death warrents, and he's still Chritian.

America, I'd bet, has killed more people than Muslim extremists. I even bet that on average, this year, America has killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed Christians.

FE - As soon as you commit a sin, you cease being Christian, at least until you repent? Or, are you not a Christian until you go to confession?

For one thing, I don't disown anyone. It has never even been said, if she was a christain or went to church (2 diff things there) and who is attacking anyone ? If you are a christain I don't think you would cut off your babys arms, sorry but that is difficult for me to believe.

I believe you must repent.

Well you can believe whatever you want but I was always told religion is a matter of faith. Belief in god and accepting Jesus = Christianity. If actions that Christianity condemns makes you not Christian then it is not a matter of faith, it's a matter of behavior.

Your behavior will reflect rather or not you are a christain and yes it is a matter of Faith. Christain is: christ like, cutting of the arms of your baby is not christ like.

But then, Muslim terrorists cannot be Muslims, if the Muslim community decide they don't like the way they act.

If I wanted to, I could decide somebody wasn't British, simply because they didn't conform to what I believe a British person should be like!

No, if someone's behaviors can deem them not Christian then it isn't just a matter of faith, it's both faith and behavior. That means that everyone who is Christian has to 1) have Christian beliefs and 2)never commit a sin that Christianity condemn.

Where did you get the definition of being a christain?? It's more than just confessing, it's doing also.

Now afro, Where did i ever say that christains were perfect?? I never did, ever. Everyone messes up, thats what repenting if for.

I have "Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus" for the main definition of Christian.

By your theory Christians would have to be perfect in order to maintain their Christianity. You said that your actions can deem you non Christian. So obviously anyone who does something Christianity condemns is not a Christian by that theory. Unless if you are only talking about women who cut their babies arms off, but that makes no sense at all.

I have never said, that christains were perfect, NO ONE Is, it's what you do when you sin, do you not understand that? You can't sin, then just keep right on doing the same sin over and over, you are to repent and stop sinning and if you mess up again, repent. NEVER ever stop trying to stop sinning. We all have weak points in are life that could be sin, but you must try to over come that sin, you don't just keep doing it.
Faith is believing before seeing, being a christain is christ like--- being like christ, it's not hating, stealing, killing....

So on what grounds can you say the woman is not a Christian? Do you happen to know if she repented?

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Gal 5:20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

NO, afro you need to reread the post, i have no idea if the woman is even claiming to be a christain, and I have said, she could be forgiven, if she asked.

Well I could swear you said she wasn't a real Christian because a real Christian wouldn't do something like that.

correct, I did say that. YOu just asked me if I happen to know if she repented, I have no idea if she did or not and I have no idea if she's claiming to be a christain.

actually I said, I find it hard to believe she was a christain if she cut the arms off of her baby.