Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I'll admit that Eddie wasn't very thrilling to watch in the ring. The "frog splash" isn't exactly the most exicting or original move there is. But on the mic he was good.And he didn't fill a general stereotype; he filled a very specific stereotype: a Texican. I've know several Texicans in my life and he did an accurate job. (After all he was one.)
And what was wrong with the LWO?
What was wrong with the LWO? The fact that they were the shittest, most ill conceived and talentless faction ever. The fact that their main feud was against Rey Mysterio when he was an up and coming cruiserweight. The most pointless faction ever.
Eddie was pathetic on the mic. I could predict each and everything he'd say.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Orale!
You also possess the mic skills of Eddie Guerrero it seems. That's all he ever really said.
Originally posted by JacopeX
Eddie guerrero-JBL feud wuz one of the best!
Obviously been watching wrestling for about 3 years.
-AC
I know perfectly well what it means, "ese". I just said it's all he knew how to do. His promos either began or ended with "Orale! Arriba la raza!" and the middle was void of any discernable charisma or interactive quality known to man.
It has nothing to do with what language or slang he is speaking, nor my ability to understand it.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You also possess the mic skills of Eddie Guerrero it seems. That's all he ever really said.-AC
Im guessing you have never met or spoken to a latino that speaks half spanish and english at the same time otherthan what you have seen on tv. It also sounds like you want to pic a fight because your enforcing people to agree with you.
I'm guessing that you haven't been watching wrestling for long at all, because you clearly know zero.
Why you and Quiero are trying to go into where the word originates from, is beyond me. Pointless. Nothing to do with anything. It doesn't matter where it comes from. I said that it was a bulk of Eddie's promos, and it was. No more need be said. Every promo he cut included: "Orale!" "Arriba la raza!" "Orale! Arriba la raza!" or "Orale, vato!"
Don't believe me? Go look at his videos. Anything else he said BESIDES those things were nothing special at all.
He was shit on the mic and lame in the ring. I'll continue waiting for any proof of otherwise. If you LIKED his limited, repetitive and cliched mic "work", fine. Fair enough. That's your preference, but to come here and claim that he was factually great and skilled with it, you're out of your depth.
As for his in-ring, he's Intercontinental level at best.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm guessing that you haven't been watching wrestling for long at all, because you clearly know zero.Why you and Quiero are trying to go into where the word originates from, is beyond me. Pointless. Nothing to do with anything. It doesn't matter where it comes from. I said that it was a bulk of Eddie's promos, and it was. No more need be said. Every promo he cut included: "Orale!" "Arriba la raza!" "Orale! Arriba la raza!" or "Orale, vato!"
Don't believe me? Go look at his videos. Anything else he said BESIDES those things were nothing special at all.
He was shit on the mic and lame in the ring. I'll continue waiting for any proof of otherwise. If you LIKED his limited, repetitive and cliched mic "work", fine. Fair enough. That's your preference, but to come here and claim that he was factually great and skilled with it, you're out of your depth.
As for his in-ring, he's Intercontinental level at best.
-AC
The reason why I like him is because he was a good technical wrestler and could talk on mic. nuff said on my part.
Now if he was "shit" as you said it then who was better than him?
Originally posted by El_NINO
The reason why I like him is because he was a good technical wrestler and could talk on mic. nuff said on my part.
Technical? Where did he display any technique that put him above any average wrestler? He didn't do anything that any pro wrestler doesn't learn. There wasn't a technical bone in that man's body. He's no Benoit, Angle, Lesnar or Benjamin. He got into the business because his family were into it and was, for a better part of his life, a cruiserweight...minus ALL the highflying. Of course, you wouldn't know about that. Before your time.
You like him because he could talk on the mic? You could talk on the mic, I could talk on the mic. Being able to speak into a microphone isn't exactly worthy of praise, because he was shit at it.
You're sinking fast.
Originally posted by El_NINO
Now if he was "shit" as you said it then who was better than him?
Hahaha. Perhaps you should be asking who WASN'T better.
As for who was, pick one. Literally pick anyone. Simon Dean is better than Eddie Guerrero, and anybody who knows wrestling will know exactly why.
If you're not a good "wrestler" per se, you CAN get away with it by being good on the mic. Eg: The Rock, who was the best. Austin, Edge formerly, Christian. Eddie lacked any kind of distinguishable ability on the mic or in-ring.
Infact, I'll go as far as to say that without Benoit, Malenko and Saturn he'd never have made it in the WWE. It was those three, primarily Benoit, who tagged him along.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Technical? Where did he display any technique that put him above any average wrestler? He didn't do anything that any pro wrestler doesn't learn. There wasn't a technical bone in that man's body. He's no Benoit, Angle, Lesnar or Benjamin. He got into the business because his family were into it and was, for a better part of his life, a cruiserweight...minus ALL the highflying. Of course, you wouldn't know about that. Before your time.
It wasn't before my time, kiddo. No, Eddie wasn't a good technical wrestler or grappler; he was a brawler and a highflyer. He was also a great heel.
The Undertaker isn't and has never been very technical, yet he's considered to be one of the greatest.
Do you actually believe what your saying about Eddie, or do you just not like him personally? I have a cousin who met him once, and supposedly Eddie was a dick.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It wasn't before my time, kiddo. No, Eddie wasn't a good technical wrestler or grappler; he was a brawler and a highflyer. He was also a great heel.
I wasn't referring to you. He was a "great" heel because a lot of people genuinely found him to be an annoying idiot. He wasn't a "brawler" or a highflyer. He was an average wrestler with some lucha libre experience. Rey, Juventud etc used to have to make him look good.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Undertaker isn't and has never been very technical, yet he's considered to be one of the greatest.
Yes? That's The Undertaker. Not Eddie Guerrero.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Do you actually believe what your saying about Eddie, or do you just not like him personally? I have a cousin who met him once, and supposedly Eddie was a dick.
Don't care what he's like personally. I felt shock and a bit saddened that he died the way he did, he had addictions and I have respect for people who can overcome that. However, in ring and on the mic he was shit.
As for me knowing any latin folk, I don't see how that's relevant at all. I made an accurate comment on his promos, the word and etymology of said quotes are irrelevant.
-AC
ok chill on eddie.. respect the dead..
i agree he wasn't the best on the mic or in the ring..
he did love what he did and he did entertain fans even though it wasn't everyones fav watch..
he never deserved the wwe title, i cant believe he won it..
his feud with rey was good but they just carried it on and it got stupid...
as for how long you watch wrestling it shoudn't matter... everyone has there opinion...
there are plenty wrestlers come and gone who were better than eddie...
but there are some who show love for the company or sports entertainment..unlike brock lesnar... if they loved what they did then they would still be on your screen now.. austin, angle both carried there career on even though they had broken neck injuries... that could easily break again or even end there career or life..
Oh give it a rest, "Respect the dead".
He's dead and I said before that it's a sad thing, but if you think I'm going to praise the man for talent he never had, or not question anyone who says he possessed said talent, you are- ironically- dead wrong.
He entertained fans? So? Eugene entertains fans, Rico entertained fans. Doesn't make them "Good".
-AC
i saying they deserve respect for going out there trying to make a living and entertain the fans..
chill out your make it sound like your the only true wrestling fan in here who knows what your talking bout.. yeah eddie's dead and hes gone... i agree we should move on...owen hart was better but you need to stop getting pissed at the fact that some people did like him...
who was your fav wrestler??? bet i could probably pick faults with who ever you name... if i wanted to..
Trying to make a living? Mark Henry has made himself a millionaire for doing more or less nothing.
I'm not pissed that people like him, people are getting pissed that I'm questioning them. Welcome to a discussion board.
As for knowing what I'm talking about, with the exception of a couple, I've yet to see anyone who knows anything extensive from a fan or analytical point of view.
My favourite wrestlers? Jushin Liger, Hayabusa, Jinsei Shinzaki, Nova, Tazz (ECW), Jerry Lynn, Rob Van Dam, Christopher Daniels.
Tazz and RVD don't do much now, but in ECW they did more than Eddie Guerrero ever has and RVD has actually had better WWE matches than Guerrero. He came from ECW and interfered in the Alliance feud, leading a lot of ECW stars who were also better than Eddie, the place erupted. What happened when Eddie came in tagging along with Benoit, Malenko and Saturn?
"Oh, it's that...ex-LWO guy. The one who feuded with Rey and who's nephew had a horse on a stick."
-AC