Jokes about Minorities...

I call my friend fat all the time. He jokes and complains about being fat all the time.

"I have to be careful walking up the steps--I could have a heart attack at any time. I'd fall over and people would probably step on and kick me."

(And yes, I know this doesn't really contribute anything to the argument, but I felt like posting it anyhow.)

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
No. It's OK for a fat guy to jokingly talk about him being fat, but if you go up to him and say "your so fat! ha ha" you've just crossed the line from joking to insulting.

What I think is really funny is how no one gets mad at the black guy making fun of white people. Its always the white guys whos racist. I dunno, thought I'd mention that.

I am so proud of myself--I just created an entire diagram of the Calvin cycle in MS Paint. It took forever, but I think I understand it now...since the book sucks at explaining anything.

people seem to forget that racism, sexism and every other 'ism' works both way 😛

Yeah.. reverse racism is more accepted. It's because it's racism in response to racism, which isn't justified, but definitely more understandable. Black people are bitter towards white people as a result of centuries of racism and oppression, where white people were first racist towards black people as a sense of racial superiority. They thought Africans were less of people, and had no problem enslaving them. If a white person were to tell a joke about black people, some would still interpret that as the white person still feels they are superior, where if a black person tells a joke about white people, it's interpreted as harmless humor. It's unfair but still understandable.

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
No. It's OK for a fat guy to jokingly talk about him being fat, but if you go up to him and say "your so fat! ha ha" you've just crossed the line from joking to insulting.

Indeed. We're gonna agree there AC, but you know why, because its exactly what im trying to say.

You are in reality, not gonna hear a Jew saying ''im a jew, i just heard a tasteless joke about us and nazis ha, ha, ha''

Racism is not simple ''bashing and insulting of people of different color in front of you'' - if it was that simple, then we could all fight it, and there would hardly be any racism. In reality, racism is built in the very structirure of our social upbringing, and most of you have proved that just by saying ''its only a joke, so its ok''
Its not ok - racism works throu jokes - its making itself be acceptable, because ''its only a joke''

Where did these jokes come from in the first place? Just think about it. They came from one or another form of racism - if there was no racism, such jokes wouldnt exist.

but its not harmless humour we are talking about.... Black people are just as racist as whites, asian, latino, etc etc. some people cant seem to grasp that.

if i shoot ur dog is it somehow acceptable for u to shoot mine? no, neither of us is in the right, we're BOTH wrong

hello

well where r the jokes

I agree to a certain extent Lil. I don't promote jokes that degrade a whole race, those aren't the types of jokes I laugh at. I promote jokes that take issues that are uncomfortable to discuss seriously and show a lighter side of things. If anything I believe that would decrease racial tension. If we look at race like it is something that doesn't matter and shouldn't be discussed, we are only trying to silence an issue that everyone is going to have in the back of their mind anyways. Just my opinion of course.

erlaughin we aren't allowed to tell racial jokes on this forum.

have you ever went from soft to hard hahahahahahahaha

/e bans erlaughlin.

Originally posted by Df02
people seem to forget that racism, sexism and every other 'ism' works both way 😛

Jokes about Disabilities. Can you make jokes about people who are not disabled?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You know whats really worrying - that there are people out there who have the attitude you do - and all other ones who have posted in this thread with the ''yeah lets have racist jokes''

You are approving racism - you have nothing else to say. Your points are not valid - they are all mindeless blealing about ''its funny lets laugh at it'' - thats all your argumens are about. Its simple to you - and in reality, it hardly is so.

Discrimination, racism or prejudice of any kind are repulsive in people.

What really worries me is that people similar to your views on racist jokes want to censor the rest us for laughing at a joke. In a way you're telling people that you shouldn't laugh because is NOT funny. And you didn't even answer the question. Do you think the creators of South Park, The Simpsons, Dave Chapelle, and Chris Rock are racist because they use racist jokes?

Originally posted by WindDancer
What really worries me is that people similar to your views on racist jokes want to censor the rest us for laughing at a joke. In a way you're telling people that you shouldn't laugh because is NOT funny. And you didn't even answer the question. Do you think the creators of South Park, The Simpsons, Dave Chapelle, and Chris Rock are racist because they use racist jokes?

There is a clear difference between television programs like "The Simpsons" and "South Park" that use humor as social commentary, which present the incongruity between perception and actuality and the absurdity of stereotypes, and humor at the expense of others, which presents a group of people as inferior, base, or worthless. Speech, including humor, is the expression of personal thoughts. Likewise, one cannot find humor at the expense of a group of people to be entertaining unless he, knowingly or unknowingly, holds similar attitudes or beliefs about that group.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There is a clear difference between television programs like "The Simpsons" and "South Park" that use humor as social commentary, to present the incongruity between perception and actuality and the absurdity of stereotypes, and humor at the expense of others, that presents a group of people as inferior, base, or worthless.

Speech, including humor, is the expression of personal thoughts. Likewise, one cannot find humor at the expense of a group of people to be entertaining unless he, knowingly or unknowingly, holds similar attitudes or beliefs about that group.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There is a clear difference between television programs like "The Simpsons" and "South Park" that use humor as social commentary, which present the incongruity between perception and actuality and the absurdity of stereotypes, and humor at the expense of others, which presents a group of people as inferior, base, or worthless. Speech, including humor, is the expression of personal thoughts. Likewise, one cannot find humor at the expense of a group of people to be entertaining unless he, knowingly or unknowingly, holds similar attitudes or beliefs about that group.

In absolute agreement.

I wanted to add something, but there is nothing to add really, your comment pretty much explained it. 👆

Likewise, one cannot find humor at the expense of a group of people to be entertaining unless he, knowingly or unknowingly, holds similar attitudes or beliefs about that group.

Not true. There is a kid in my first hour who is very liberal, but he makes joke about his political standing all the time.

"Hey, I'm a Democrat--I'm lazy!"

Likewise, I'm incredibly conservative, but I can laugh at stuff like:

"Hey, Lois, it's the two symbols of the Republican part: an elephant and a big, fat white guy who's threatened by change."

Some people here are taking comedy way too seriously.

By taking something negative, putting a lighter, more positive spin on it, and making it socially acceptable, you take the negative connotation from it. Why is it wrong to take something that was frowned upon, make jokes, and make people laugh? What's wrong with pointing out differences and laughing at the absurdities? No, it's not ok to degrade an entire group of people, but jokes aren't meant for that. If it's degrading, it isn't a joke.

Some of you may be confusing a joke about race with racial slurs.