Jokes about Minorities...

Started by lil bitchiness13 pages
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
making it socially acceptable

There you go. The key words written all by your little self. You're taking the racism, making it into a ''so-called'' joke and with that making it socially acceptable.

What better way to get racism in society than to disguise it. THIS is how racism survives to this day - because racism (just like power) doesnt have one form - it changes around, it shifts. Just like above.

Making fun of people different colour and making it socially acceptable is exactly what racist jokes do.

yeah im wit lil
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Well... nobody is really budging on this topic at all.. including me. The bottom line for me is, many of my favorite comedians tell racial jokes and I think it's hilarious. If you want to label me racist go ahead.. I'm not going to pretend something isn't funny to me just to avoid people calling me racist.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
There you go. The key words written all by your little self. You're taking the racism, making it into a ''so-called'' joke and with that making it socially acceptable.

What better way to get racism in society than to disguise it. THIS is how racism survives to this day - because racism (just like power) doesnt have one form - it changes around, it shifts. Just like above.

Making fun of people different colour and making it socially acceptable is exactly what racist jokes do.

Jokes about race aren't about their actual skin color, if you haven't noticed. It's about the general differences in what the races do.

You haven't told me about what's wrong about making it acceptable. If you take a negative, and turn it into a positive, where's the downside?

Again, if you must say "so-called" then it ISN'T A JOKE. A joke is always undeniably just that, a joke. If it's blatantly questionable in nature, it isn't a joke anymore.

The key words written all by your little self.

Being condescending is not the way to win an argument.
Again, if you must say "so-called" then it ISN'T A JOKE. A joke is always undeniably just that, a joke. If it's blatantly questionable in nature, it isn't a joke anymore.

Touché, my ally.

Racism is racism … if you want to tell racist jokes amongst your friends then it’s up to you, but why do people make excuses! There is how ever a big difference between social commentary humour about race, which many comics of all colours do with out being offensive and racist jokes which are just that racist! And no amount of “well they do it too” makes it any less racist!

Oh and your “black friend” does not think it’s funny, he has just had to put up with the “JOKES”, all his life and can’t be bothered to complain!

Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Well... nobody is really budging on this topic at all.. including me. The bottom line for me is, many of my favorite comedians tell racial jokes and I think it's hilarious. If you want to label me racist go ahead.. I'm not going to pretend something isn't funny to me just to avoid people calling me racist.

In racial humor, race is a component of the joke. In racist humor, race is the joke.

What exactly is the difference? Give me an example of racial humor and an example of racist humor. Don't give me specific jokes just shows/comedians/that sort of thing.

Behind the smiles and happy faces, most comics are angry people. They use humor to even the score. Chris Rock, Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce, and others...very angry people.

I remember, and know quite well, all the Irish jokes, mainly as I am technically Irish (Australian Irish, don't ask). I find them incredibly funny, although they poke fun at Irish culture, intelligence and so forth. However I never the less enjoy them because they are, quite frankly, jokes, sometimes with a great deal of wit, other times with insight. Now I dislike racism immensely, but I don't think a person making a joke in the spirit of humor is being racist. In fact these jokes can often be a form of observational humor, or as a way of showing, perhaps, how unusual some things are. There is a difference I feel, of telling a joke that is aimed to hurt and filled with racial hate, and just telling a joke to be funny. Sounds naive perhaps.... But an important thing is tact, and consideration, humor is a personal thing, and I can see why some people could be offended, even when a person telling a joke has good intentions. An example I guess could be a person falling down. Not that funny? People seem to laugh a lot never the less. Does that mean we like seeing people hurt? Or that we enjoy pain? Not really, just that some people have strange sense of humor (curse Australia's funniest home videos, worst show on tv I think)

Oh and your “black friend” does not think it’s funny, he has just had to put up with the “JOKES”, all his life and can’t be bothered to complain!

I highly doubt that.

the way I look at it is, ANY type of teasing or insulting is hurtful. Calling someone a Bit*h or a *ick or ass is very mean, but society says its alright and you wouldn't be considerd a bad person, but the minute you use race, you become bad, and a racist. Jokes are Jokes, but I do not see how saying racial things are any worse than calling people non racist mean words like the before mentioned ones, they are both hurtful, actually I consider mean words like ***** or Dickhead to be just as bad as Nigge* they both are mean't to hurt but people consider Nigge* so much worse because its based on race, well those other mean words are based on things like looks which are just as bad as racial jokes

Oh and blacks being enslaved was very terrible but Jews were enslaved by Egyptians thousands of years and it doesn't seem to be a problem that people of Jewish religion have with Egyptians.

I hear people getting called a cracker on a daily bases...but if I were to say n*gger... thier goes the neighborhood ill have al sharpton at my door by noon

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There is a clear difference between insulting someone because you are offended by his character and insulting someone because you are offended by his identity, i.e. one can help being a dick but he cannot help being black.

"one can help being a dick but he cannot help being black."

Tell that to Micheal Jackson.

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The n word is worse than calling someone a dick because of the hate behind the word. Cracker was initially meant to be hateful but never quite gained the notoriety because it wasn't associated with slavery, lynching, the oppression of a whole race, etc. We only hear of the Jews being slaves as ancient history. The fact that blacks in America were once slaves still effects us today, that's the difference. Also slavery was a common practice before any of that, but it wasn't the same slavery that blacks in America experienced because the slaves weren't treated as cruelly before that. They were basically servants who didn't get paid. While the whites in America treated the blacks almost as if they took pleasure in seeing them suffer.

"Cracker" did actually come from lynching, it comes from the "crack" sound the whip makes.

"Cracker" did actually come from lynching, it comes from the "crack" sound the whip makes.

I think you misspoke.