Indiana Jones IV

Originally posted by queeq
You're a bit of a dictatorial fellow, aren't ya?

I am simply pointing out what should be an obvious solution for the constant disappointment we all suffer at the hands of a man that has spent the last 30 years being told he was an innovator, genius, perfectionist and independant. Well, perhaps those are accolades that no longer apply. The man honestly thinks he can do no wrong and is clearly and repeatedly rewarded for this stubborness by the legion of Star Wars and Indiana Jones fans who line up and pay him to destroy the very mythologies they love so much. I just don't think we should take it anymore. As soon as something he does fails miserably, he might get the message that he can't just phone it in and slap a John Williams score on it and make half a billion dollars. Until his "fans" demand quality from him, he'll continue to feed us shit.

Originally posted by Devil King
Ha! DUH! That's exactly what you do. You stop rewarding his abusive and destructive behavior with your money. No more money will be spent on the prequels or the clone wars or The Force Unleashed or any EU that takes place before A New Hope or inbetween or after the Thrawn trilogy. No money will be spent on special editions of the first three Indy films or on going to see this movie or buying the action figures or video games.

I would'nt go as far as stop rewarding him so no more Star wars games can't be released, Some of those games from lucasarts are damn good. 😉

Originally posted by Kazenji
I would'nt go as far as stop rewarding him so no more Star wars games can't be released, Some of those games from lucasarts are damn good. 😉

I am not a video game player, so most of them don't effect me. But when a Shadows of the Empire or a The Force Unleashed comes along and it becomes a cross-media project, as FU is becoming, then it effects more than just the person playing the video game. Vader or Anakin has an apprentice; Jedi riding Rancors; Indiana Jones and Aliens; Jabba the Hutt's son being kidnapped. It just becomes too ridiculous. As I have called it in the past, it's a game of galactic six degrees of seperation.

And everyone says "Well, no one was going to be happy with this movie or the with the prequels, so he might as well have done whatever he wanted to please himself". Well, fine. But if he knew he was never going to get the chemistry from the prequel cast, or the believability that comes along with actually banging a nail into a set instead of stretching a green screen across a soundstage, then don't make the effort to cram and force importance or profoundness into the story. Just tell a straight-forward surface story and actually take into consideration a few of the facts that were established in the first three.

DK, no one's forcing anyone to go and see these movies or buy any spin-off merchandise. No public funding goes into these films. If that's how Lucas wants to spend his money, let him. It's the freedom he acquired by doing some proper films in the past. So he makes crap, it just makes the suffering of fanship bigger and we have more to moan about.

If we start banning all of Lucas's work, we might as well end this forum. 😉

Originally posted by queeq
DK, no one's forcing anyone to go and see these movies or buy any spin-off merchandise. No public funding goes into these films. If that's how Lucas wants to spend his money, let him. It's the freedom he acquired by doing some proper films in the past. So he makes crap, it just makes the suffering of fanship bigger and we have more to moan about.

If we start banning all of Lucas's work, we might as well end this forum. 😉

i didn't say the forum had to ban his work. I said the people who don't like his work in the last ten years should sto pspending their money on his crap. I am a member of several SW sites and I constantly hear people complain and they're also the very same folks talking about what they've just bought or what they can't find, why they don't like the new Clone Wars cartoon movie or what they don't like about this new book or that one. Well, you would think they'd learn from constant disappointment and stop rewarding it.

I think the complaining IS the reward. 😉

Don't mind the aliens...everything else though, was shit.

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Originally posted by queeq
I think the complaining IS the reward. 😉

The toy aisle tends to disagree.

The forums aisle doesn't.

But Lucas and Spielberg don't profit from these forums.. Where as the mechandise is the only area they can be hurt in.

100,000,000 folks can tell them all day in intricate detail why their current output being sold as 'the new chapter in the saga you always loved' is just plain wrong and that when you jerk around with much-beloved things like that, it pisses the paying public off and it'll achieve nothing with them, as they don't give a f*** about what we think, only what our wallets think.

Never bothered with Prequel trilogy merchandise, wont be buying any neo-Indy stuff either.

Me neither. Well, except for the Lego indy game maybe. Coz the SW ones were so much fun.

Fair play. That is understandable especially as it isn't KOTCS centric.

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Originally posted by queeq
The forums aisle doesn't.

I suppose you're right. I haven't heard such glowing reviews since The Phantom Menace.

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okay I've been a fan of Indiana Jones since I was 4 years old, and personally, I really enjoyed KOTCS. not as good as Raiders or Crusade, but it definitely surpasses Temple of Doom in my opinion. I also didn't have a problem with the aliens or even the fridge scene. after all, it has as much plausibility as the Ark of the Covenant containing spirits that melt your face off if you don't close your eyes, so I don't think those were that bad (Plus, what did you expect? Mayans were known for believing in celestial beings.) No, the only problem I had with the movie were the visuals and the monkey scene (It was so pointless). Those were obviously Lucas's doing, being that he did the same messups with the recent star wars movies. (Honestly, Lucas knows how to put together a story, but over the years he's become really cocky with moviemaking in general.) And because I had that knowledge going in to the movie, I was more pleased and entertained with the film than anything else, not disappointed.

My personal opinion.

Noted

I dont think that Lucas is entirely to blame here.

Spielberg coulda opposed him.

The Nuremberg defense would ab a curious ethos to cite in Spielberg's defense, given his feelings on nazis.

Maybe teh whole thing that all need to agree on the script ends up in a compromise situation.