Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yeah, we did the native americans wrong. this is their country.
You don't have to tell me, as I said, I Am Native. Micmac. My people came from Maine, and are related by dialect to the rest of the Algonquin peoples of Canada and the Eastern U.S. seaboard. our relatives in Maine are the Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and the Penobscot. All are alive and well in varying degrees of health, but they have mostly avoided the by and large of the European crush.
We're also related to the Abenaki (Wobenaki) who were a very big player in the French and Indian War as middlemen in the fur trade. I could go on but there's too much. Let's just say I have lived with my lion's share of the prejudice.
I was warned one time by some guy at a rally for Indian rights, he said to me, "you better watch your ass because everyone is going native."
I turned around, looked him in the eyes, and said "I AM native." and he said "Oh no, not another one". LOL Ah, what are ya' gonna' do?
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Just an addendum: the guy was suprised to see I was an Indian when I turned around. He was shooting his mouth off about liberals and Indians getting their way when they open their mouth. Man was he suprised.
Yeah, we got our way alright, when 2 to 3 thousand Cherokee were forcibly marched from Tennessee and the Carolinas to Oklahoma on the Trail Of Tears, and we sure had our way the day the remainders of Custer's 7th Cavalry used us for target practice at Wounded Knee the morning of Dec. 29th, 1890.
We had it made huh? 🙁
Originally posted by BellaButterfly
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check out the Who Gives A Shit Thread, buddy.
Oh and by the way, you're forgiven. Custer died for your sins. If we're going to talk about racism, let's cover all facets of it. Custer lost, get over it. His own men even hated him.
Oh well.
Ducking out of this thread because it's apparent that some people here can't come to grips wth how their own natives were treated. I said my piece, let's leave it at that. And BellaButterfly, if you're bored, don't reply. Stay out of it and let those who wish to discuss it do so. I'm sure there's plenty of places for you to hang around at 2 in the morning, like Clancy's Pool Room...don't waste our time.
Just to staisfy everyone's curiosity:
Yes, some Indians have computers instead of casinos. And I am also one of the few pure blood Native Americans who is NOT alcoholic, who is NOT drug addicted, and who has a job.
So while I am officially exiting this thread, I'll remind you all not to subscribe to stereotypes either. Peace out and see you on the boards. Be good to each other. Life is too short.
And I mean that, that's an order!
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Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Ducking out of this thread because it's apparent that some people here can't come to grips wth how their own natives were treated. I said my piece, let's leave it at that. And BellaButterfly, if you're bored, don't reply. Stay out of it and let those who wish to discuss it do so. I'm sure there's plenty of places for you to hang around at 2 in the morning, like Clancy's Pool Room...don't waste our time.
Dagon, this is the off-topic area- NO such rules will be enforced or are expected of posters.
I also can't see a single person here who has failed to get to grips with anything since you started talking so I am not sure where your problem is.
Hmmm I'm not familiar with the northeastern Native Peoples. I once did a report on the Isti Seminoli, and their fight against the U.S. Gov, and I learned a lot of backhanded shit about how our screwed people. I did that report my junior year in highschool. Best paper I've ever written everyone in my family loved it. That frickin frackin fat @$$ drunkard teacher gave me a B- because he didn't like it. He was a bigot. Him and his partner in crime gave us textbooks that said shit like "Unlike the disorganized tribes of Africa, China had..." anyway that's a rant, I mean wrap
Actually the old white supremacist groups like the KKK still exist--I found some guy's website who was a member of the KKK.. He didn't actually say that he was but he had a link to another guy's site who did say it. He had all this crap about how the Jews are planning to take over the world and how black people are inferior to whites--he claimed that because some dude who lived in the 1850's said they were meant it was true. The thing is, that's what everybody thought back then. Even Lincoln thought that.
Anyways, racism and other forms of discrimination will always exist in some places. It is just part of our nature (and the nature of every other intelligent organism on this planet) to fear what we don't understand.
However, racism can go both ways--it seems like nowadays people are so afraid to sound racist that they tend to bow down to people of other races, religions, backgrounds, etc. For example, at my elementary school, they hired this idiot lady to be principal who was a) a b!tch and b) had no business being an administrator. And, she happened to be black.. I'm trying hard not to sound racist here, but it seems like they hired her BECAUSE she was black.. I don't know why the school would have hired her otherwise... Once again I apologize if I sound racist, let me make it clear that I am NOT racist.. I'm just trying to make the point that people nowadays seem to almost be going the other way with this.