Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
This thread is completely stupid. The Superman fanboys never give up. No version of Superman would ever be more than an annoyance to a NORMAL powered Galactus.
!!I am not directing this at anyone!, but what you said is one big thing i dislike about blank vs superman threads, but its partially the writers faults as superman is probably the most random superhero their is (but he is raw.)
but against galactus, its unreasonable to think superman would win
and to say he would just sneeze galactus away makes it seem liek galactus would just sit their as superman approaches, awaiting a sneeze
Originally posted by h1a8
Galactus has been killed. Thus he has a limit (he is not God without limit)
his power is incalculable by humans (marvel says this) but that doesn't mean he is infinity (incalculable doesn't equal infinite). Galactus can destroy solar systems by supernoving stars. As a matter of fact many worlds in the universe have the technology to supernova a star. Galactus can not destroy the universe under his own power by blasting it! He would simply use his technology or regular power (if it is great enough) to supernova each star. Thus the statement " Galactus can destroy the universe" has no meat to this argument. That statement simply deceives people into thinking " Man this guy can destroy the universe with a single blast". Please stop deceiving people and tell them the truth. Superman on the other hand as been shown to have no limits. He can lift anything, punch through anything, be faster than anything, withstand anything, etc.If Superman loses then that means he couldn't withstand anything. This is a contradiction to his definition. Are you saying pre-Superman couldn't withstand anything (remember writers with the pen had the power for him to do anything)?
If Galactus can't lose then that means he can withstand anything. Is that true (Remember he has died before and also Thor himself tharwted him with the odin force)?
Thus by this simple logic Superman wins 10/10
But for all of you guys/girls who I love sincerely (I love this site) I will be very honest and admit to the truth of how I can see Galactus winning.
He can read Superman's mind to find out his weakness which is Krypton and use the krytonite to defeat superman. That is if Galactus survives a point-blank solar system destroying sneeze or something worst. So whoever determines first the true power of the other will have the best chance of winning. Sob, Sob; "Darn that stinking Krypton. Superman why did you have to lose? Maybe the writers can find a way for you to get around this somehow".
note: disregard "superman wins 10/10"
Your logic is f**king stupid, PC Superman is afraid of Darkseid who is almost equal to Galactus in power. Galactus yes has died but also has comeback to life on his own power can superman do that hell no, Galactus has destroyed solar systems in battles, destroyed the whole universe, even eternity acknowledge how powerful Galactus is. Galactus will kill him without Kryptonite, Galactus has destroyed a planets with energy blast with little effort. Galactus will absorb of his solar energy out of him and leave him drifting in space lifeless.
Galactus 10/10
Pre-Crisis Superman would more than annoy Big G....
He might injure him....
But I doubt he could fully defeat him.
Superman has unlimited speed, strength and invulnerabiliy.
The problem is that he has a physical form which is prey to the laws of the universe.
Since Galactus possesses immense control over the physical world, I see the battle going as this:
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Superman is transported into the Marvel universe by an unknown power and Reed Richards briefs him on Galactus' mission to eat the Earth. Reed needs Superman to delay Big G long enough for him to build a weapon to drive G off.
Superman comes flying in to the battle and demands Galactus to stop.
Galactus hits Supes with a bolt of cosmic energy which sends him flying through space.
"Great Stars! That energy hurts even a Superman like ME!"
Then Superman proceeds to rock Galactus with invisible planet-destroying punches at superspeeds of a billion times the speed of light.
At first Big G cannot understand what is happening, he is shocked that Superman has survived the bolt of energy and now his armour is buckling and he is being tossed about like a pea in a can.
Then he understands that Superman is moving at incredible speed, so he uses his cosmic power to amp his own perceptions up to hyperspeed levels.
When Supes comes charging in for another punch, Big G now sees him, scans his body for vulnerabilities and turns Superman's blood into Kryptonite.
Superman as a last ditch effort to survive, throws himself through the vibrational wall between universes and ends up back in the DC universe. The transition changes his blood back to normal and he heals instantly.
However, when he tries to fly back to the 616 uni, he finds the vibrational wall blocked off by super-sealing vibrations.
Using super-vision, he sees through into the marvel universe and sees that Reed has completed his weapon and drove G off.
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That's how a comic with Pre-C Supes and Big G would go.
Superman would be shown immensely impressive and manages to hold his own for a while, until Big G's matter manipulation powers come into play.
But before Superman gets killed, he escapes and the day turns out okay anyway.
🙂 That's how I'd see it playing out.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Your logic is f**king stupid, PC Superman is afraid of Darkseid who is almost equal to Galactus in power. Galactus yes has died but also has comeback to life on his own power can superman do that hell no, Galactus has destroyed solar systems in battles, destroyed the whole universe, even eternity acknowledge how powerful Galactus is. Galactus will kill him without Kryptonite, Galactus has destroyed a planets with energy blast with little effort. Galactus will absorb of his solar energy out of him and leave him drifting in space lifeless.Galactus 10/10
The writers wrote that because Superman needed someone who is his match or better (Darkseid). The writers have full power. I garantee you that if the best of the pre-superman writers wrote the battle then superman will certainly win. Second, Galactus didn't comeback to life on his own power. He was ressurected by the children of R. Richards of the fantastic four. If Galactus could absorb the solar energy out of superman then why didn't he do that to any of his foes (like his rebellious heralds and other cosmic energy drawing characters). I never seen or heard of Galactus destroying a planet with a blast. Prove it. He destoyed solar systems by supernoving its star. Many in the marvel universe can do this (even R. Richards). In an argument one must refute the other's argument and then come up with an argument of their own (not just ignore what they have said). Otherwise, the debate is nonsense and will get nowhere. No one refuted my "How can Galactus withstand the infinite power that the writers can give superman?" I refuted (or tried at best) to refute your points. I didn't ignore anything you have said. I took all of your points into careful consideration. You are biased in your thinking and not objective. That is why you didn't refute any of my points. The writers will simply give superman enough power or new powers to defeat Galactus. And I assure that if superman ever fought Darkseid to the death then he will most certainly win. Because the writers says so! They will grant superman with the necessary ablility and defense to do this. Now refute that along with my above point.
PC will not bring a fight to the table at all, PC superman was afraid of darkseid he will be shitting in pants big time when sees Galactus. Galactus will just turn him into a f**king BBQ pig like he did against immortal hercules just by looking at him. PC will have advantage at all Galactus will see his weakness, either blast him inot oblivion or drain the solar energy out of him. Our Galactus bust out his secret weapon, it's aunt may with her super twinkie the most powerful weapon in all of comics even Galactus bows down to the twinkie 😄.
Galactus smits PC superman 10/10
Originally posted by the Darkone
PC will not bring a fight to the table at all, PC superman was afraid of darkseid he will be shitting in pants big time when sees Galactus. Galactus will just turn him into a f**king BBQ pig like he did against immortal hercules just by looking at him. PC will have advantage at all Galactus will see his weakness, either blast him inot oblivion or drain the solar energy out of him. Our Galactus bust out his secret weapon, it's aunt may with her super twinkie the most powerful weapon in all of comics even Galactus bows down to the twinkie 😄.Galactus smits PC superman 10/10
Actually he wasn't afraid of anyone, but you have to have been alive then to know this!
Originally posted by spideycarnage
doesnt precisis supes get smacked around PC Darkseid..and i thought that PC darkseid is arugued by DC fanboys to be on Galactus level???anyways pc supes gets pimp slapped by BiG G.
No Kirby who created both Galactus and Darkseid has said many times they were equal. Precrisis Supes never really got slapped around by anyone. However Pre crisis Darkseids feats actually in many ways are more impressive than those of Galactus. Read Legion of Superheroes "Great Darkness" saga
"This was the storyline that made me start collecting The Legion of Super-Heroes comics back in 1982. I actually came on board in the middle of the Great Darkness Saga, but quickly scrounged back issues to get the whole story. Everything Levitz and Giffen did afterward was shadowed by this story. Heck, this was where Darkseid made his comeback after being virtually relegated to comic book oblivion in the '70s.
Even when Kirby was writing the Fourth World comics, Darkseid was not the major player in the DC Universe that he is now. But Levitz showed the potential for the character, making him a cosmic villain of universal proportions. Like one of the other reviewers here, Darkseid was new to me simply because I was too young to know about the New Gods. But Levitz used him as a mythic character whose legend would have been known to those who read their Encyclopedia Galactica.
In this story, Darkseid takes a while to reveal himself, working through his "servants of darkness" to procure vessels of power, including living beings he sucks dry of their power. When he does this to Mordru, the Legion know they've got a problem bigger than any they've faced. In one mind-blowing subplot, Darkseid transposes Apokolips with Daxam, giving a yellow sun and the power of Superman to three billion Daxamites he mind-controls.
It's difficult to know whether this remains an official part of Legion continuity because the group has endured so many revamps and rewrites. But it remains an outstanding story. As for Darkseid, this is just one of many possible futures for DC's #1 villain. John Ostrander also did a superb job writing a climactic battle between the Martian Manhunter and Darkseid thousands of years from now."
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Why are people still posting in here? Haven't we already concluded that Superman can't take Galactus? There have been 3 threads that make the claim already, and were smacked down. Just stop already.Galactus Wins 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10
We haven't concluded that Galactus would win.
Because no one refuted my strong points above.
Until someone does then Superman wins 10/10
Saying Galactus will win means nothing.
One must refute any strong points mentioned and then explain how Galactus can win. Otherwise, this debate will get nowhere.
How would Galactus win? He'd grab Superman, and throw him into another universe. Or, he'd pull him in two pieces. Or, he'd fry him like he's nothing. Kid, Galactus is stronger than pre-crisis Superman! He's more powerful than any Superman that's ever came into existence. You can talk about pre-crisis Darkseid all you want. That was Kirby's intention, but it didn't come to fruition. There is no possible way, shape, or form that Superman in any way, shape, or form could kill Galactus. Give it up. Fanboys need to just stop posting in here, because you're making yourself look like morons. Do some damn research on Galactus and find out for your f*cking self why Superman would get his arse kicked.